Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Pt. 2 Rebirth

[JagdPanther]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

Awesome! I think QB is one of the better side quests in Rebirth, though most of them are very well made, with few exceptions. Good luck for chapter 13, it's a scary place...

Had to read up on Shadowblood Queen decks because, yikes, that is a rough match. I don't really understand the mechanics of certain cards well, but once I read a bit about a good deck (I actually had to go buy the cards... I didn't realize there were new cards available I'd missed), it wasn't hard to win.

I'm pretty much where I want to be before doing Chapter 13. Can't do any better than a low B on Two Legs. Going to try a little bit of Ultimate Party Animal (probably just the Musclehead Colosseum part). Skipping the Corel Protorelic 4 because Kid G absolutely railed me after I got what I did with Aerith against the Cactaurs (I read it's better to do that later anyway). So beyond that, I guess it'll be the homestretch for the game.

[Kafriel]

Congratulations on beating the queen! Her deck isn't all that special, but it does require some tweaking to beat.

Kid G is a great fight, very reaction-heavy though. He basically does a one-two strike twice and then shimmies for goblin punch. You parry the first two and dodge the third, he goes into pressure, you build some extra meter and finish with stagger attacks. It may take two rounds of this if you're not optimized for stagger damage, he's got a lot of health.

I'd recommend doing the protorelics before ch.13, but if you've already gone ahead, it's cool - there's always chapter select afterwards.

[JagdPanther]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

Congratulations on beating the queen! Her deck isn't all that special, but it does require some tweaking to beat.

Kid G is a great fight, very reaction-heavy though. He basically does a one-two strike twice and then shimmies for goblin punch. You parry the first two and dodge the third, he goes into pressure, you build some extra meter and finish with stagger attacks. It may take two rounds of this if you're not optimized for stagger damage, he's got a lot of health.

I'd recommend doing the protorelics before ch.13, but if you've already gone ahead, it's cool - there's always chapter select afterwards.

Yeah, I'll have to read more about the Kid G fight. I should've expected there was another fight after the Cactaur Crush sequence. I'd like to get that over with.

Conversely, I'll "nope" my way away from the Ultimate Party Animal sidequest for now because I understand the Musclehead Colosseum stuff is super hard (like 2 jokers at once with a 3rd enemy).

[Kafriel]

Musclehead Colosseum has end-game fights, like, hard mode end-game fights. I'd say it is one of the more frustrating parts of the game and really, really needs some specific materia and party compositions, so yeah... you can leave that for later. Getting all of the protorelics should be achievable, though.

[JagdPanther]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

Musclehead Colosseum has end-game fights, like, hard mode end-game fights. I'd say it is one of the more frustrating parts of the game and really, really needs some specific materia and party compositions, so yeah... you can leave that for later. Getting all of the protorelics should be achievable, though.

Kid G wasn't hard once I read how to deal with him. Sometimes I don't quite understand what is written in Enemy Intel about how to pressure an enemy. Once I saw that what you had to do was dodge his special moves and then immediately hit him, it was easy to get into a dodge-hit-focus cycle until he was staggered.

That fight unlocks Corel Region Enemies 2 in the combat simulator. The final one with 2 Death Claws and Kid G rolled me last night. Watched a couple videos today and, while it took a few minutes, was able to beat that without much difficulty. Just kited Kid G around with Tifa while trying to avoid the Death Claws, built up Kid G's stagger, took him out, and then was able to deal with the Death Claws fairly easily. For the last one I had Aerith use her Level II limit break to allow me to just wail on the Death Claw without being damaged.

Also did the Unlimited Party Animal Chocobo Race. My second try was by far the best race I ran of all Chocobo races. Won by maybe a quarter lap. So much easier when you don't have other racers bouncing into you or cheap traps.

[Kafriel]

All my chocobo issues disappeared when I started using Fango. Jump is just the best counter to cactuar doors, which is the worst random obstacle in the game.

If you have weapon level 8 Tifa, she can solo death claws; all you need is speed demon charm and you can keep throwing them off of their attack animation with omnistrike / rise and fall or even trinity strike (as long as you can get all 3 hits). She's also the best character to face Kid G, since she's the fastest.

UPA is among the hardest side quests, be mentally ready for a tough time... and good luck

[JagdPanther]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

All my chocobo issues disappeared when I started using Fango. Jump is just the best counter to cactuar doors, which is the worst random obstacle in the game.

If you have weapon level 8 Tifa, she can solo death claws; all you need is speed demon charm and you can keep throwing them off of their attack animation with omnistrike / rise and fall or even trinity strike (as long as you can get all 3 hits). She's also the best character to face Kid G, since she's the fastest.

UPA is among the hardest side quests, be mentally ready for a tough time... and good luck

Yeah. I used Selena for most of the the races overall because my favorite color is blue and I like her blue shell ability. I think 11 races with her. But I used Fango for the Legendary and Gold Cup races. The jump ability was clutch for those stupid doors. It's amazing how often I'd round a corner right into the closed portion.

I actually had to watch a video on Trinity Strike because the description made zero sense. I tried to time it off when Attack changes to Trinity Strike, but that didn't work, so I switched to timing it off the animation. I can reliably get the first hit part because Tifa jumps backwards away from the enemy and it's pretty clear, but the second hit with her kicking the third time is still hard for me to see and time.

I am almost certainly not finishing UPA because I suck at a couple of the minigames, but I figure I might as well try some of them.

[Mad Pierrot]

So the game was rereleased for the PS5Pro and they say the visual were even more improved.

[JagdPanther]

Into Chapter 14. Aerith's trial in Chapter 13 was heart-rending.

[Kafriel]

So many of the trials were gut-wrenching... Barret and Aerith had it the worst, but Nanaki and Yuffie had to live through... well, that.

Be prepared for the final battle, it takes a looooong time to finish!

[JagdPanther]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

So many of the trials were gut-wrenching... Barret and Aerith had it the worst, but Nanaki and Yuffie had to live through... well, that.

Be prepared for the final battle, it takes a looooong time to finish!

Even though Tifa is my favorite character I feel like her trial didn't have the impact the others did because... we've already seen all of this. There are at least two separate in-depth looks into what was ultimately in her trial.

Anyway... Yeah, reading through the list of final boss battles, I figure it'll take a long time. I hope there's a chance to save either manually or at least get a checkpoint save that occurs automatically. I doubt I'll be able to do this in one sitting tomorrow... maybe one sitting on Sunday. I read more how you get characters for the final battle, so it really was useless to try to game the affection after I got the Intimate Tifa date.

I can at least spend time equipping characters tomorrow. I may also not have enough materia based on what the walkthrough I'm following suggests. But, we'll see.

[Kanon]

The worst part of the final battle is that if you die against the final boss (and there's a pretty good chance you will), you have to restart the whole gauntlet.

[Tactics]

https://www.siliconera.com/square-en...remake-part-3/

Go, VIIR! Go! Bring back the airship to modern gaming! Pave the way for both future and remakes FF.

[Kafriel]

Originally Posted by Kanon

The worst part of the final battle is that if you die against the final boss (and there's a pretty good chance you will), you have to restart the whole gauntlet.

There's at least one checkpoint, maybe two, but I don't think you're allowed to switch loadouts unless you start over from the very beginning.

Even though Tifa is my favorite character I feel like her trial didn't have the impact the others did because... we've already seen all of this. There are at least two separate in-depth looks into what was ultimately in her trial.

Flashbacks, Shinra... I hate all of them!

I can at least spend time equipping characters tomorrow. I may also not have enough materia based on what the walkthrough I'm following suggests. But, we'll see.

IMO you'll need two magnify and elemental materia, a mix of fire/ice/thunder/wind as well as one HP UP, revival and precision defense focus on everyone. I'd say everything else is just there to make your life easier, but if you start off and feel it's rough already... I hope you kept a spare save from chapter 12.

Go, VIIR! Go! Bring back the airship to modern gaming! Pave the way for both future and remakes FF.

They've talked about the Highwind in three separate interviews, but I still think people fail to realize just how massive the world is going to be, and about what kind of speeds we're talking here... Even though Rebirth is huge, it's still cut off in zones. Imagine having to load all of them and render everything in a matter of seconds as the Highwind cruises past - I still can't believe they managed it.

[JagdPanther]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

There's at least one checkpoint, maybe two, but I don't think you're allowed to switch loadouts unless you start over from the very beginning.

IMO you'll need two magnify and elemental materia, a mix of fire/ice/thunder/wind as well as one HP UP, revival and precision defense focus on everyone. I'd say everything else is just there to make your life easier, but if you start off and feel it's rough already... I hope you kept a spare save from chapter 12.

Yeah, we'll see. I have only 4 Revival materia (only 1 of which is maxed out). I don't have 7 each of the 4 elements. I don't think I have 7 Precision Defense Focus, either.

I figure that since the Revives are only 1 star (except for one), Phoenix Downs are going to be critical.

I gotta remember to put my second Elemental on someone. The walkthrough I saw mentioned doing that with Ice, but it didn't specify armor or weapon... I assume armor because the guide is listing all the offensive materia on armor. I put Ice-Elemental on one character but forgot to set the other one. I put Magnify-Healing on Cloud and Red XIII. I have 7 Healing materia, at least, so everyone has one.

How long did the final bosses take you, if you recall? I'll need to set aside enough time, I guess, if there isn't a save opportunity (definitely was hoping for a checkpoint).

[Kafriel]

You don't need 7 sets for the basic magic materia, just two, spread out among your party. You definitely have fire/ice and lightning/wind, so you basically only need one more set. Yuffie has ninjutsu, so she can do without. For healing, if you have maxed our Prayers, Barret and Red are probably the best ones - Mag Healing and chakra also work wonders for Cloud. Revive works just fine at 1 star, Arise costs too much MP anyway. You can buy precision defense focus from either Chadley or the bench shops, can't remember exactly, but it's common enough.

IIRC the final chapter took me 2.5 hours, but I had to run it over when I got to a certain part of the fight.

P.S: Make sure you got materia on Aerith... yeah.

[JagdPanther]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

You don't need 7 sets for the basic magic materia, just two, spread out among your party. You definitely have fire/ice and lightning/wind, so you basically only need one more set. Yuffie has ninjutsu, so she can do without. For healing, if you have maxed our Prayers, Barret and Red are probably the best ones - Mag Healing and chakra also work wonders for Cloud. Revive works just fine at 1 star, Arise costs too much MP anyway. You can buy precision defense focus from either Chadley or the bench shops, can't remember exactly, but it's common enough.

IIRC the final chapter took me 2.5 hours, but I had to run it over when I got to a certain part of the fight.

P.S: Make sure you got materia on Aerith... yeah.

Thanks for the tips.

And, yeah, I had seen Aerith is involved, so I didn't de-equip her of anything except the Magnify materia she had equipped.

I didn't get to it today so I'll probably wait until next weekend; no chance I have even 90 minutes straight of time during the week, and I don't want to feel rushed, especially with the scenes around the fights.

[Mad Pierrot]

So Aerith is not much of a white mage in Rebirth or you guys are trying to balance the materia with the limit breaks?

[Mad Pierrot]

Originally Posted by Tactics

https://www.siliconera.com/square-en...remake-part-3/

Go, VIIR! Go! Bring back the airship to modern gaming! Pave the way for both future and remakes FF.

It would be awesome if the transition from ship to land could be done naturally with Cloud and his party jumping from the ship like in the movie where they are pretty much acrobats.

[Kafriel]

Originally Posted by Mad Pierrot

So Aerith is not much of a white mage in Rebirth or you guys are trying to balance the materia with the limit breaks?

Spoiler for Aerith's abilities:

She can play a very good support with her warding abilities, but I believe her intended role is that of a damage dealer; arcane ward only works for black magic, fleeting familiar is for offensive abilities and magic, she has a ward that gives her a better auto-attack, a better dodge and damage immunity while casting, an ability that boosts her magic (and doubles as an offensive non-elemental magic attack), plus she has the highest MAG stat in the party. End-game Aerith deals 99,999 on staggers. She can also heal for 10k, but Barret, Nanaki and Cait Sith can do a pretty good job with their own abilities when it comes to healing.

You could do an all-girls party and have Aerith on support though, there's a thing such as too much damage, and Aerith can also revive characters without materia, so she gets that much at least.