2013-02-07, 07:58 | Link #11941 |
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Nienami... hmm.. as was mentioned before this was telegraphed the moment her style was mentioned in detail.
Of course people didn't belive it considering the history of the manga, and I am still skeptical about it till the Iihiko situation is resolved. |
2013-02-07, 08:17 | Link #11942 |
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I've begun to see a correlation between Nishio Ishin and Christopher Nolan. Their fans are extremely loyal and come down hard on anyone who doesn't worship them and find everything they create to be absolute genius. Meanwhile, their detractors always yell about how overrated they are and that those who like them are just bandwagon fanboys. It's quite an amusing parallel.
I think Nishio has flashes of brilliance. I thought Bakemonogatari was an great series, but only because I liked SHAFT's handling of it.... I probably wouldn't have liked the light novel series. Nishio's work is definitely an acquired taste and I feel that Medaka Box is definitely his weakest work and a mediocre manga in general. It's like Haruhi with a twist... and I couldn't stand that series either.
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2013-02-07, 08:32 | Link #11943 |
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it really is.
some OP insistent character accompanied by the normal snarky guy. anyway, I did thought a bit of nienami doing something more, when fukurou was explaining how her's is the strongest. I sort of thought maybe she'd teach medaka or assist in the battle. its just that after the professor was killed and medaka learning her own style got rid of that idea quickly. fighting by herself came from left field. hehe, nisio seems to have deconstructed the "deus ex machina" scenario, by making nienami easily ignorable and making her tag along while just making a passing comment about her powers. |
2013-02-07, 10:05 | Link #11944 |
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And yet the "Nisio has no idea of what he's doing anymore" everyday more stupid argument. That's it, just keep spouting the same bullshit all over again to convinces yourselves. You're stubborn like a brick wall
But I don't care anymore. I loved everything in this chapter. |
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2013-02-07, 11:04 | Link #11946 |
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So the fact that someone likes the manga, means that they're irrational fanboys? Quite a self centered way of thinking there.
In any case, I quite liked the chapter, especially Nienami at the end there. I look forward to next week.
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2013-02-07, 11:36 | Link #11949 |
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My problem is that while Medaka has purportedly changed as a character (as in that she is being self-sacrificing because she wants to be, not because it is the foundation of her existence) and is thus no longer a monster (as her being monstrous was because of her extreme selflessness while being unable to truly understand others which is not an opinion I entirely agree with but whatever) the characters are now treating her as though she hasn't changed at all.
There's no consistency here. It really feels like an excuse to have Iihiko get angry and beat her to death. Either way, this is going to end happily since Medaka still has to undergo the Kurokami Trials so I really don't see how this is going to end up delivering any sort of real message. Last edited by Tyabann; 2013-02-07 at 11:57. |
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2013-02-07, 12:12 | Link #11951 | |
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So in the end, it seems Medaka has gone from one extreme to the other. The only thing that hasn't changed in this respect is how she absolutely refuses to compromise her position. So, no. It all makes perfect sense to me. If you want to argue about the execution, then that's a whole different matter...
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2013-02-07, 12:54 | Link #11953 |
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It is indeed rather interesting how we all view Medaka. Is it really heroic to never give up? There's always that fine line that we straddle. Part of me felt Medaka was selfish("I'll definitely become friends with you"), while another part knew that Shiranui felt similarly so it should be alright...right? Should Medaka just meddle if Shiranui is genuinely fine with accepting her fate? When should we let someone decide their own fate, even if it seems detrimental?
Medaka is admirable because she constantly tries to defy constraints, but she's also a bit irritating in her stubbornness. Maybe I'm resigned, but she is a main character, a way to analyze the various roles that the characters are given. |
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2013-02-07, 13:54 | Link #11959 | |
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This is quite the turning point. Not even once was she defeated fighing someoen before (Koga beating her due to the loss of her abnormality and her amnesia doesn't count), and now what. After facing off with a demon who can deal you damage that lasts for all eternity, with her stomach drilled and her body completely messed up, with nothing else but a style to support herself up. Perhaps is true that she's gonna die smiling. Besides, Medaka winning would be equally or worse as Hanten warned her. And releasing Shiranui is Zen's job. |
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She still has to go through the Kurokami Trials. She's going to survive this. |
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