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Old 2015-09-08, 10:09   Link #1021
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Goal!

But yeah, I concur with the general sentiment here. This is definitely not Maeda at his best, though it's still somewhat enjoyable. The problem is if you came here looking for anything better than a 3.5/5 series.
dude, your not helping. your making me cry

I love most of key OST. That is one I felt in love with. Liked clannad the most then LB. I haven't played rewrite yet so I'm not yet sure. I'm still planning to play it but busy irl.

Carlotte is good but the comedy is pretty dull for me now. I'm just waiting for the train wreck to come for weeks and it fails because I already expect Ayu to die and the girl didn't have much impact for me to feel something when she die.

At least it brought Yu and Nao closer but that closeness vanished when Yu rewrite history with saving his sister.



When I watched this series before. I just enjoy it.

But right now, I can't help cringe when I saw the unbalance eyes.... >_> I don't like growing up.
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Old 2015-09-08, 20:54   Link #1022
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I played his games and watched the games get animated. I liked his works. Be it Maeda and yanagi videos in youtube. The emotions felt pure there but the anime where his directly connected just felt off. Unlike his other works.
This is due to the fact that he is a writer and an anime is a different medium. With a VN script he doesn't have to limit himself, he can write as much as he wants. This allows for everything to be expanded on.

My issue is I feel Maeda has allowed audience's tell him what they they want rather than him writing what he truly wants. If anyone knows about Tomoyo After or how AIR's ending was "received." It's like Japan doesn't like those endings, so he doesn't do them. Also because he works for KEY he doesn't have absolute control. I wonder if he would've ended past works differently.

As for Charlotte, I wasn't expecting this to be amazing, but I was looking forward to it. I don't know what the outcome will be, but I look forward to it every week. I feel it could have used more episodes, but it doesn't feel nearly as rushed as Angel Beats.
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Old 2015-09-08, 21:49   Link #1023
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This is due to the fact that he is a writer and an anime is a different medium. With a VN script he doesn't have to limit himself, he can write as much as he wants. This allows for everything to be expanded on.
That's his own fault, if he wants to continue writing for anime yet being unable to adapt to it. Others successfully made the switch. Urobuchi Gen being the most notable, there's also the writer for Triangle Hearts, I heard, who jumped ship for the Nanoha franchise.
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Old 2015-09-09, 02:56   Link #1024
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Because everytime you enter time travel into the mix of sci-fi, you end up with inconsistencies that one has to adress, and in doing so you end up lowering your enjoyment of the thing...
In fact, the only times I have truly enjoyed time travel plots is when I completely shut down my disbelief and focus on character relationships and such things, all to ensure I don't think too deeply of the time travel implications...
Stories with time travel elements rarely never lay out all the details, but whenever they appear I always assume the authors know what they're doing and try to explain events according to the in-universe rules. I'd be disappointed if Charlotte never explains Yuu's memories, but I still have faith ATM.

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That's even worse than posting a link from 4ch.
Personally I despite Sankaku links more.

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Dramatically proclaim forced drama? nobody needs to watch the next episode to know what is going to happen and what kind of end this series is going to have, everything we have since ep 6-7 is another asspull from Maeda and as Kuroageha said this is one of the worst series he ever made.

Marcus already explain what do we mean with forced drama, try to read a little bit more instead of nitpicking what you want to read.
I can't time leap so I wouldn't know what is going to happen. Unfortunately I still don't see this investing on emotional weakness thing in an 11-second preview with lots of shouting and a girl firin her lazer. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding your definition of "forced drama" again; sometimes I think it has as many definitions as "moe" does.
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Old 2015-09-12, 10:28   Link #1025
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That's his own fault, if he wants to continue writing for anime yet being unable to adapt to it. Others successfully made the switch. Urobuchi Gen being the most notable, there's also the writer for Triangle Hearts, I heard, who jumped ship for the Nanoha franchise.
Yeah....riiighht
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Old 2015-09-12, 10:30   Link #1026
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Episode 11

Well, that was one hell of a ending.
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Old 2015-09-12, 12:01   Link #1027
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It seems some things were actually confirmed with EP 11:
(1) It seems the Educational Plan wasn't too full-proof after all.
(2) We have a new side: Magneto Side.
(3) It does confirm that we are indeed on the Nao Route.
(4) I need to buy the Charlotte VN if it comes out.
(5) We now have our TRUE titular object: apparently it's a comet. (iirc someone got it right)
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Old 2015-09-12, 13:05   Link #1028
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Oh god this is hilarious, I laugh so hard with this episode.

First the explanation of how everyone get the powers was a nice thing, really well done. After that everything else was bullshit and more forced situations just because why not, random guys who wants to know about all the people with powers, some of the characters getting randomly beated and finally the epitome of the asspull with the death of Kumagami.

This is now one of the worst shows of the season, Maeda needs to stop this once and for all.

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Old 2015-09-12, 13:22   Link #1029
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Damn things got dark fast. Torture scenes (damn the nail torturing scene again. Traumatized from seeing it in Higurashi) and Nao getting tied up. Damn.

If Yu still has his ability of plunder, he probably can take over the other dude and use that 5 sec to time travel it's possible.
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Old 2015-09-12, 14:01   Link #1030
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Kumagami ;_;
What's with Eiji Takemoto adn his characters always getting up killed? Bols, Mitsunari, Kunzite, now this. Don't tell me that in next Ace Attorney Edgeworth will be killed as well.
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Old 2015-09-12, 14:10   Link #1031
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Awesome episode. Firstly we finally get the title drop, and Yu tries to be the big badarse hero.. but screws up. I do like how they're smartly linking in the main plot and romantic subplot.

Through I suspect the musician involved somewhere, the question is still how Yu going to earn his happy Nao ending?

On a random note... not terrible English.
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Old 2015-09-12, 14:24   Link #1032
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I guess Yu gonna need Yusa's possession by the dead to get Kumagami's much needed intel. And speedbro.
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Old 2015-09-12, 14:44   Link #1033
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My only question is: if he already possessed the two main villains - why not jump from the ledge and murder them right there?
Saves a lot of trouble and proves that you don't want to mess with them. Henchmen won't do anything is the boss is dead.
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Old 2015-09-12, 14:56   Link #1034
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Heh, it was indeed the comet's fault, so we have something that comes around every 75 years, forcing adolescents to gain mutant powers, but the outbreak happens only once in a while? The last time being the Middle Ages or thereabouts? Really?

I thought last episode that the biggest problem we would have would be that Yu won't be able to cure Nao's brother during this timeline, turns out there are much bigger and more pressing matters at hand.

So are they stuck in this timeline forever? If the entire thing was planned before the school system was in place, why wait for Yu to make contact with her brother before forcing one from Shun's team to kidnap him? Why not just take him when he was running around possessing girls?

Ok, Yu knowing about his Plunder skill might be important for the kidnappers, that's why they needed him when he finally remembers everything, but if Shun can't even make Ayumi remember everything, How can they be sure that Yu would remember everything? Did they know all these because the driver guy told them?

What was their end plan anyway? Shun told Yu that "I can't let you leave here because you're too valuable and other people will try to take you" and then suddenly, conveniently, these other people appear and try to take him! Really? For what?

Yu freaking out about he was just a cheater or whatever also didn't help. He was calm when saving Ayumi but chickened out when Kumagami and Nao got taken, really??

How hard was it for him to run out of the building first before attempting to time leap? Why just stand there instead of going out and waiting for the reinforcements that Shun promised him would be there?

They better fix his eye fast and make him time leap back or else all these dangling plotlines won't get resolved at this rate.

EDIT: For a show that had Yusarin singing in engrish, that foreign kidnapper guy's english is impeccable.

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Old 2015-09-12, 15:20   Link #1035
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ah man... why do I keep getting Guilty Crown vibe over this episode...

Good things: Nao in lingerie *sorry but I gotta say I feel blessed* and Kumagami-bro

Bad things: let's see... Yu really doesn't cut out to be a main character. So far, he just keep got swept away by the flow.. He is the worst Key main character ever so far. Shouting and almost use Collapse in the base, just nodding about whatever Shunsuke told him, and even tried to run away from saving someone he loved.
I would not be surprised if Nao turns him down in the end.. He deserved it.

This rage thing has swept all the feels I supposed to get from this episode. Yes, Kumagawa is a hero.. but there is basically no good thing happened. Cheap and weak villain, painful torture scene, some family blackmail, and lastly cracking Shunsuke.
It is obvious that Shunsuke would get into a slump after this.
I also hated the fact that they didn't involve speed-bro and Yusa in this things

To be honest, I hoped an ending where Yuu would create a more peaceful world for everyone.. It is like he tried to accomplish something his nii-san would never achieve.

But looking at this development, there are two possible ending I could picture
First, Yuu would tried to take every single power and kill himself
Second, Tomori would somehow take a lead and slap Yuu *yes again!* from another depressing moment. Then they together with speed-bro and Yusa would try to save everyone from those terrorists threat in the future

I must say this again.. It would be mind blown moment for me if Tomori would feel any affection toward Yuu. Yuu didn't deserve a good girl like Tomori
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Old 2015-09-12, 15:59   Link #1036
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This makes no sense.

How did this foreign syndicate prepare for Shunsuke's time-leap ability (and Yu's ability to take it) several years in advance when they didn't even know about their abilities until they tortured it out of Kumagami?
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Old 2015-09-12, 16:03   Link #1037
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It's too late to drop the show now, isn't it?
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Old 2015-09-12, 16:08   Link #1038
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I do like Yu's outbreak about how he's just a regular guy, and not the superhero agent his older brother tried to be and accomplished after years and years of time leap attempts.
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Old 2015-09-12, 16:23   Link #1039
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It's too late to drop the show now, isn't it?
Sadly it is.

Yuu outburst was the only thing I liked.
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Old 2015-09-12, 16:34   Link #1040
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This makes no sense.

How did this foreign syndicate prepare for Shunsuke's time-leap ability (and Yu's ability to take it) several years in advance when they didn't even know about their abilities until they tortured it out of Kumagami?
I'll bullet point it, feel free to point out anything wrong. I'm just trying to desperately save the plot:

- Foreign syndicate knew about Shun's ability even before the school system was established because of the driver guy.

- They also knew that Shun is blind, and can't time travel anymore.

- They took Kumagami to ask about all the other ability wielders that might have useful powers, including Yu's powers.

- Once they knew of Yu's powers, they decide to take him and make Nao hostage.

- If anything changes in the timeline of whatever their plan was, that means somebody messed with the timeline, and they'll kill off the hostages.

- Safe to assume that they only knew of Yu taking the time leap power after torturing Pooh, which might mean that they were only interested in his Plunder ability.

- Still, what were trying to do in the first place? This plan took years, and all of this just to take Yu? Why not just take Yu in the first place?
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