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Old 2015-09-22, 20:38   Link #1
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Fantasies set in unusual eras

I'm a big fan of fantasy, and over time I've noticed that there are certain time periods that are favored and certain ones that are all but scorned. Fantasy seems to generally be either modern and later (either hidden magic or magitech), or medieval and earlier. Few to my knowledge appear in a clearly Renaissance-age world, and even fewer in Victorian and later times. Thus my request, fantasies set between the late Renaissance and the end of the 19th century. My highest preference goes to around the Victorian period, but anything in the range is fine.
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Old 2015-09-22, 23:33   Link #2
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Try Lindbergh. This is a world where the skies are filled with people that took to wild blue yonder on the back of Lindberghs, dragons with da Vinci/Lilienthal/Wright style canvas wings strapped on. Tech level are at 17th century, so expect battles between flying galleons bristling with cannons that also carry Lindbergh Fighter Wings that dogfight around them, as boarding actions by musket-armed airmen. Fantastic aviation series won't be complete without a legendary flying island (where the MC came from, with vaguely ancient Iranian culture).

Of course, talking about aviation fantasy, Ghibli movies have to be mentioned. Howl's Moving Castle with its Victorian-Edwardian Magitek.

Other that come to mind is Imperial Guards. More of a soldiers' war story in a campaign within a relatively short timespan, its also rather Low-Fantasy. Set in a Fantasy-World Hokkaido, where fantasy Bakumatsu-Early Meiji era Army have to fight an invasion from fantasy Tsarist Russian Empire. There's no grand magic, but telepaths/clairvoyants are used as messengers, farseer recon, and artillery spotter. The MC is an Officer in a Sabertooth tamer unit. Pterosaurs are used as an aerial cavalry mount. Dragons are revered, ethereal telepathic beings that are neutral to affairs of mortal men.

Talk bout unusual setting, Toujuushi Bestiarius is set in Imperial Roman era, Gladiators and Dragons. So far, I haven't seen fantastic elements more than dragons though in the one-shot (its continued after that)

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Old 2015-09-23, 04:00   Link #3
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Victorian era = Victorian Romance Emma by Kaoru Mori. I recommend the manga over the anime, but both are good. She also has a historical manga set in Mongolia, which I haven't read but which is supposedly really interesting.

Taisho Yakyuu Musume is set in the 1920s in Japan, as is the Sakura Wars series.

I haven't read Thermae Roma-something either, but that's also set in the Roman Empire.
Lastly, and again I haven't read it, but Vinland Saga is set in Scandinavia around the 10th century AD iirc.

Not all of these are fantasies, but if you limit yourself to fantasy then you're looking at a very, very small number of possible shows.

Actually I know of quite a number of fantasy historical manga, especially shoujo, set in unusual eras, but not all of them have been translated.
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Old 2015-09-23, 09:55   Link #4
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Victorian era = Victorian Romance Emma by Kaoru Mori. I recommend the manga over the anime, but both are good. She also has a historical manga set in Mongolia, which I haven't read but which is supposedly really interesting.

Taisho Yakyuu Musume is set in the 1920s in Japan, as is the Sakura Wars series.

I haven't read Thermae Roma-something either, but that's also set in the Roman Empire.
Lastly, and again I haven't read it, but Vinland Saga is set in Scandinavia around the 10th century AD iirc.

Not all of these are fantasies, but if you limit yourself to fantasy then you're looking at a very, very small number of possible shows.

Actually I know of quite a number of fantasy historical manga, especially shoujo, set in unusual eras, but not all of them have been translated.
Hmmm...between those only Sakura Wars that seems to have clearly fantastical element - and its more of 1920s. (Well, Thermae Romae's roman hot tub time machine qualify as magical...maybe? But the rest are pretty much mundane)

But untranslated fantasy historical shoujo manga? Interesting. It won't hurt to give us some titles, even though there is no translation. Please, do tell, so we can be at least aware of them.

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Now there is some that I could think of, but I'm reluctant to list because its more of Early 20th Century rather than Late 19th, or more of fantastical steampunk without clear acknowledgement of magical elements, or its more of Schizo-Post-Apocalypse-Future with Magic, or fantastical-version alternate worlds roughly comparable to our 15th-19th century technological level, but have very few or no magical elements whatsoever.

From what I getting, so you're not looking for mundane-historical-world with added fantastical elements, but rather an entirely different fantastical world which resembles our world in 15th-19th Century? (or any era that is not medieval nor full-blown futuristic magitek)

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Old 2015-09-23, 13:33   Link #5
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What about early 20th? Baccano! would be a nice one to check.

Le Chevalier D'Eon is set in 18th century. Personally was disappointed but you might like it.

Magi is set in Arabia.

Romeo x Juliet anime has fantasy elements.

Senjou no Valkyria: Gallian Chronicles is set in early 20th century.

Tales of the Abyss could work.
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Old 2015-09-23, 18:42   Link #6
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But untranslated fantasy historical shoujo manga? Interesting. It won't hurt to give us some titles, even though there is no translation. Please, do tell, so we can be at least aware of them.
Here's a useful link: Historical shoujo manga

For those with some translation, off the top of my head:
Anatolia Story - ancient Mesopotamia
Fushigi Yuugi - ancient China. Everyone knows about this one.
Reimei no Arcana - own fantasy world, medieval
Fushigi no Kuni no Senichiya - high fantasy spoof of classic fairy tales. Very charming series.
Kakan no Madonna - 15th century Italy so characters like da Vinci and the Medicis show up.
Ouke no Monshou - ancient Egypt.

Back on topic, just remembered another suggestion: Raika. Set in ancient Japan. This one definitely has lots of magic and spells and stuff. Was licensed by Sun comics, I think, many many years ago. I still have at least one copy lying around the house.
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Old 2015-09-26, 08:23   Link #7
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I'm fine with translated and raw alike, just so long as it is closely tied to the Fantasy genre. I know there are plenty of series set between Renaissance times and the early 20th century, and there's just as many fantasy series out there, but what I'd had trouble finding was the overlap of fantasy stories set in the equivalent of such time periods. I'll take a look at some of these, but some still seem to be the typical pre-Renaissance in setting. Unusual ancient civilizations are interesting in their own way, but most of them have had some fair treatment either as the core of a setting or a mysterious land the heroes must deal with at some point.
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Old 2015-09-26, 13:53   Link #8
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Hmm...If I stretch the requirement a bit for "19th Century" to "Mid-20th Century" and add "Schizo 15th-19th Century Tech and Aesthetics" into the mix, then I may list some more:

Toaru Hikuushi Series - I'm not listing this earlier because the tech level is more WWII, with many Planes and Ships are clearly inspired from that era (Amatsukami Imperial Navy even uses the exact same ships as the Imperial Japanese Navy, but also floating in air, not only water - and warplanes). The setting is clearly magical, with Floating Islands, Wind-Controlling Princesses, and Tiered Flat Earth with Giant Rift Waterfalls. There are 4 Novels: no Tsuioku, no Koiuta, no Yasoukyouku, and no Seiyaku. Tsuioku was adapted into a decent movie, Koiuta was adapted to not-very-good anime series. With the setting, Aerial combat are to be expected. Tsuioku doesn't have magical things, whereas it is more prominent in Koiuta.

Last Exile - It is actually a Sci-Fi set in a long time in the future, in a place far-far away, but if you consider things like its primarily Victorian aesthetic combined with Steampunk tech, hourglass-shaped hollow world, glowing Crystals that powers Flying Engines, Flying Steam Battleships that uses analog computers with wingless Vanships dogfighting around, Aloof pointy-eared race with advanced tech whose power waned (basically Elves), and Chosen Ones that can summon otherworldly Arks when read series of specific chants (maybe tech so high so looks like magic, but it sounds magical enough); then its pretty damn Fantasy-Steampunk enough. Well, thats stretching a bit.

Shoukoku no Altair - This is more of an alternate fantasy world, mostly because the peoples and countries are basically fantasy counterparts of real-life Renaissance countries and peoples; also so far there is no magic in it (If you consider L'Isolanian ways of reading the waves or Glowing crystals of Kulaks is just expertise or natural phenomenon). The setting is what amounts to Fantasy 15-16th Century Mediterranean Geopolitics, only without its religious turmoil. Turkiye are their namesakes, Balt-Rhein Empire is much more stronger and expansionist Holy Roman Empire combined with Richelieu era France, Venedik are the Queen of the not-Adriatic with Doge commanding her Galeass arsenal, and more. However, Warfare Technology in that world were not as advanced as in ours; not-Greek Fire were just rediscovered, Gunpowder is something new, Arquebus are secret technology from the east, and Cannons are newly-invented in not-Italy; so overall it may still feels like late medieval. The Protagonist is not from the european equivalent, but rather a Turkish Pasha.

I heard D. Gray-Man is Victorian-Gothic Fantasy. Never read it, so I can't comment.

Also about Fullmetal Alchemist, I sure you've already know about it. Its more 1920's with Institutionalized Magic treated scientifically by Alchemists.

Trench Flowers - Spirit Magic-Wielding Battle Nekomimi Maid Corps on a fantasy-equivalent Western Front of WW1.

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Old 2015-09-26, 17:04   Link #9
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Let see, only one I know of that I didn't see mentioned is Zero no Tsukaima, which has a society similar to 17th-18th century France, and a similar technology level- simple black powder weapons such as muskets and cannon exist, but are less widespread due to the prevalence of magic on the battlefield, who the modern-day summoned protagonist regularly curb stomps with modern weapons summoned from modern-day Earth... convenient! Focuses a lot on the protagonists relationship with his hardcore tsundere love interest, with the setting as more of a backdrop, which occasionally comes to forefront when the male lead ends up in battle, usually to save his aforementioned tsundere waifu.

Also, not a fantasy with the different tech level per se, but if you haven't watched Gate: Thus the JSDF Fought There or read the manga, it is a very good series IMO where a fantasy Roman-like empire (thought with a more medieval tech level) invades Japan through a portal that appears in Ginza, Tokyo. The Japanese Self Defense Forces curb stomp the invaders with tanks, attack helicopters, and other modern weapons, and then counterattack through the portal. From then on, the male lead is tasked with reconing the new world, meeting the locals, escorting diplomats for peace talks between Japan and The Empire, battling dragons, and even finds time to score himself a harem. Also interesting as the protagonist is a 33-year old JSDF lieutenant, much older than the typical anime protagonist these days...
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Old 2015-10-06, 09:57   Link #10
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About Bestiarius, i have one question : It's finished or not ?
In France, the first two volumes are out today and i know a third one is out in Japan.
The art is beautiful (it's the same mangaka of Rainbow) and so ... Do the author continue or not ?
Thanks !
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Old 2015-10-06, 14:10   Link #11
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About Bestiarius, i have one question : It's finished or not ?
In France, the first two volumes are out today and i know a third one is out in Japan.
The art is beautiful (it's the same mangaka of Rainbow) and so ... Do the author continue or not ?
Thanks !
As far as I know, it finished in vol. 3
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Old 2015-10-27, 22:19   Link #12
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I'm a big fan of fantasy, and over time I've noticed that there are certain time periods that are favored and certain ones that are all but scorned. Fantasy seems to generally be either modern and later (either hidden magic or magitech), or medieval and earlier. Few to my knowledge appear in a clearly Renaissance-age world, and even fewer in Victorian and later times. Thus my request, fantasies set between the late Renaissance and the end of the 19th century. My highest preference goes to around the Victorian period, but anything in the range is fine.
Not an anime/manga, but Girl Genius seems like an obvious pick. Steampunk fantasy set in Victorian Era.

Familiar of Zero is an anime set in a fantasy world that's a pretty clear expy of Renaissance europe.

I wonder when Spice and Wolf is set? Late Medieval? Early Renaissance?

If you are willing to be a little flexible, maybe Last Exile which is steampunk in a land far away and a distant time.
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