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I mean the entire premise of the series hinged on that concept and then they just threw that to the wayside. Someone clue me in on the stuff the ending is really missing, even if it was handled 'off screen'. I want to blog about it later and I dont want to miss anything lol
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2012-03-11, 23:47 | Link #8343 | |
Honya-kun
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Spoiler for The big things that were missing from the ending:
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2012-03-12, 00:00 | Link #8345 |
Honya-kun
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Clinton, Maryland
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While the character designs look a lot like Ken Akamatsu's, I doubt it's by him, especially if this is an on-going manga.
Keep in mind that it took over a year after A. I. Love You was done before Ken Akamatsu started Love Hina (and over a year after Love Hina before he began Negima).
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2012-03-12, 00:55 | Link #8346 |
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Location: Canada
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It's an old image from the looks of it, oldest date of it appearing is around 2007 using google reverse image search.
Screen cap of search results here: http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4677/77658164.jpg |
2012-03-12, 00:57 | Link #8347 |
4koma and web manga fan
Join Date: Apr 2011
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It's Gyakuten☆Maiden by Yuzuki Ryouta, it's pretty old too btw. It won GI Gangan 2007 award but was never serialized and criticized heavily because of the resemblance to Akamatsu's Negima. Heck, the mangaka was flamed so badly that he even changes his drawing style.
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2012-03-12, 10:44 | Link #8351 |
Maniacal laughter ensues.
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: My own delusions of grandeur.
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Well, my Nodoka ship was shot down, as was my back up Yue ship, we still don't know where Arika is or has been for the last decade, and Shiori wasn't even mentioned. My world is slightly darker.
*Shakes fist*
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2012-03-12, 11:01 | Link #8352 | ||
Labda Prakarsa Nirwikara
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That made my day.
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I will, however, at least explain why I think the later chapters suffered from bad writing. Simply put, there's one rule that goes for every story, whether it is in literature, manga, or movie form. That rule is "Show, Don't Tell", also known as "SHOW ME THE MONEY!", which basically translates as "If it's important enough to be in the story, the writer better have the fortitude to actually show it, rather than force his reader to do fill that part for him." Now obviously we can't show all things. That is why we limit it to the important bits. for example, the "where they are now" scenes for side characters who barely have any relevance to the story doesn't need to be detailed, and some short description will suffice. The important bits, however, have no excuse. I'm talking about Nagi - despite being absent for the majority of the story his existence and disappearance had left a great mark on Negi's character, so much that it defined his entire childhood. It was then logical for us to assume that Negi's quest to find him, to really find him instead of getting distracted by the "saving the Magical World" bit, as well as their eventual reunion to get a major focus. Instead, it got resolved off-screen. We never knew what happened to him. Worse, We never saw what happened to him. Same thing with the Lifemaker. Despite still being a threat at the end of the Mundus Magicus mega-arc we never saw his defeat, only a text describing that he lost and they win, parties for everyone! But those two had it better. Arika didn't even get a slight mention. It's as if Ken purposely avoid mentioning her just to ship him with Eva. In the end Negima Told, not Showed. So there, my 2 cents on why Akamatsu's writing plummeted near the end. Quote:
He could have tidy up all the loose ends there. That couple of chapters of "Who Negi Loves" which in the end went nowhere? Yeah, he could have allocated those to the Mundus Magicus Arc and let the Nagi, Arika and Lifemaker issue get resolved right there. Done - no more important loose ends. Instead, the Lifemaker somehow has Nagi's face, and then that guy drops more hints on Nagi's fate. Hints that never went anywhere! If he knew the contract was going to end, why bother adding more hints and mysteries?! Start resolving them already! ...instead, we got several chapters of aimless harem hijinks, as well as Asuna's "heyguyswhatareyoucryingfor - TIME TRAVEL SOLVES EVERYTHING!" Akamatsu chickened out. Either that, or he never knew what to do anyway. And Isn't it Sad, Anya?
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2012-03-12, 13:29 | Link #8353 |
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Well, it would seem that the endless scenarios of how it could have turned up are going to pile up immensely on the Fanfiction sites.
I got no comment on how it ended. You all made that in ways I couldn't. Just disappointed in that the flotilla of Nodoka shipping got nuked. But now I can at least see how things turned out in canon so I don't have to worry about how bad I'll make mine.
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2012-03-12, 15:24 | Link #8354 | |
Sensei, aishite imasu
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Perhaps she'd have noticed something about Satomi if she'd looked more into the orbital elevator?
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2012-03-12, 15:47 | Link #8355 |
Honya-kun
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That's only if you consider the last two chapters as canon, which will probably not be the case for a number of readers (heck, expect some fan discontinuity when it comes to the last two volumes of Negima). :P
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2012-03-12, 16:01 | Link #8356 | |||
阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180
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I don't imply that he has made no mistakes so far, however, the brutal shift by the end of MM arc is, to me, a glaring proof that Akamatsu could not continue what he had planned, despite the biggets chunk of MM arc had a similar pacing than the other major arcs, albeit longer due to obvious reasons. To me, bad writing would be an -extended- period of time where you have contradicting or nosense elements being thrown in the main plot, spiraling into the main story being hardly making sense by its own standards. You may think the sport festival is within such criteria, but I don't think so: surely, it sidetracked the main plot, however it didn't affect the main story, past shortening the amount of available chapters. I really dislike the off screen stuff as much as anyone do, but frankly, suddenly bashing the author and the series -as a whole- is a bit too much, but that's just an opinion among many. Quote:
I don't think the off screen was a solution, yet I don't believe the situation could be solved "with few chapters" only, considering how Akamatsu was crafting the issue surrounding Nagi for a huge number of chapters, prior and during MM arc. Frankly, I really believe that Kodansha was pressuring him to shorten MM arc, considering the pretty variable amount of fanservice in MM arc, which is quite weird if you consider how Akamatsu wrote the previous major arcs. Simply speaking (and call it naive or whatever), Akamatsu wanted to wrap things by the end of his contrast with Kodansha, but even while the contract is about to end, Kodansha made sure Akamatsu doesn't go against the said criteria they have apposed for Negima. Quote:
There were various onimous stuff regarding Nagi the very few chapters after Rakan has explained Ala Rubra saga, and suddenly shifting Nagi's whereabouts wouldn't be any better.
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2012-03-12, 16:20 | Link #8357 | |
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When a work is partially influenced by the editor and publisher, the liberty to continue or end the work does not fall on the writer alone. The writer has to keep both options open: keep the world expansive enough to write more on it later, but also limit the story into separate arcs so that it can end if the time comes. Again, it's not new. Wakaki did it early on in The World God Only Knows: the early story arcs were short and episodic, in case he had to end it soon, but there were several points that he could pick up later if he needed to, like the nature of Old and New Hell, the Weiss, Majima High's founding, etc. |
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2012-03-12, 21:05 | Link #8358 |
Maniacal laughter ensues.
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: My own delusions of grandeur.
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My questions that will never be answered are now "How did Nagi show up to save Negi's ass six years ago" and "WHAT THE HELL ARIKA". I also could have handled not knowing who Negi ends up with if it wasn't for the brutal tease that he does in fact have someone in mind.
Arika, though, isn't something I can just shrug off. Is she dead? There must be some reason she didn't stick around to help her quietly desperate and lonely son save her world. Or try to free the love of her life from his imprisonment. Or anything. The fact that Negi has absolutely zero interest in her whereabouts is frankly infuriating. Also, our finale was Yue getting raped. I'm not sure how to handle that.
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