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Netto Azure · 2012-10-11, 03:06

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Originally Posted by tomtkp

What really happened that made even the Mr. Nice Guy Eugeo very angry? The answer will be revealed in this Volume 11.

Is that a translation?

But yeah Can't wait for Progressive and Vol. 11. ;3

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-11, 03:16

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Originally Posted by Flere821

That was revealed in Ch5 Web version (which is one of the few Web parts I've read). From what I've heard Vol11 will include Ch5-6, maybe half of Ch7 as well.

As for the bolded part: (Warning: RAEG-inducing spoilers)

Spoiler for Eugeo, Web Ch5:

Some nobility bastard (this guy deserves this label 100%, you'll see why in a moment) lost to Eugeo in a spar, and planned on having revenge on him. He forced his (female 1st year student) squire into bathing with him, humiliating her and taking his loss out on her. Which forced her friends that was Eugeo and Kirito's (both female as well) squires into telling our protagonists what happened and asking those two to intervene. Eugeo and Kirito did so, with no visible effects of stopping the bastard's actions and Kirito planned on submitting a letter to the faculty to let the teachers deal with this problem. Kirito and Eugeo played right into the trap however by asking that bastard noble to stop, as that allowed the bastard and his two sycophants to use the loophole/rules that allows them to punish any underclassman, saying those two squires have defamed them. They used this rule in conjunction with their 'Noble's Rights' as 1st class Nobles to give orders that cannot be refused by 4th class nobles or below under the System's laws to:

Spoiler for Last chance, leave this alone if you didn't like Fairy Dance arc:

Eugeo came in after the b#$%&rd and his two friends was done with the squires, with the narration going into great detail how broken those two girls ended up; glassy eyes, shivering body, and I'll leave it at that. Eugeo was so mad at how things have turned out he wanted to kill the ones responsible with his white blade, but he can't even pull it out fully due to the System blocking him. The b#$%@d and his cronies was laughing at how things are turning out, until Eugeo broke the System's boundaries with his rage and sliced off the b@#$%d's right arm. (I'll skip the ensuing slaughter scene - this is a public forum after all, psychological + physical torture will have to be toned down)

Web Ch5 ended with Kirito and Eugeo being arrested and taken away for breaking the System's laws and murder.

I hope they'll tone down this in the LN version. It seems a bit too much for SAO, all things considering.

Flere821 · 2012-10-11, 03:28

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

I hope they'll tone down this in the LN version. It seems a bit too much for SAO, all things considering.

It's not the first time we've seen this being hinted at in the AW and SAO LNs...

Spoiler for Fairy Dance, Mother's Rosario,& AW Vol3-4:

Alternatively:

Spoiler for AW Chrome Disaster, Fairy Dance:

tl;dr - this had all happened before in these LNs, I would not be surprised if it happened again.

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-11, 03:46

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Originally Posted by Flere821

tl;dr - this had all happened before in these LNs, I would not be surprised if it happened again.

It's not the same imo. What happens in the web novel feels like a line was crossed for the first time, and there's really no need for that.

In any case, I will keep hoping this line won't be crossed in the LN. We'll see what happens.

Divini · 2012-10-11, 04:33

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

It's not the same imo. What happens in the web novel feels like a line was crossed for the first time, and there's really no need for that.

In any case, I will keep hoping this line won't be crossed in the LN. We'll see what happens.

Spoiler for my thoughts based on two-page spread and web ch.5:

But seriously, what's up with all these rotten nobles in the UW?!

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-11, 04:41

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Originally Posted by Divini

Spoiler for my thoughts based on two-page spread and web ch.5:

I really hope I'm right.

I hope so too, really.

ronelm2000 · 2012-10-11, 06:09

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Originally Posted by Flere821

It's not the first time we've seen this being hinted at in the AW and SAO LNs...
*snip*

tl;dr - this had all happened before in these LNs, I would not be surprised if it happened again.

Three words by the ones responsible for UW:
Just. as. planned.

Deltaray · 2012-10-11, 08:09

http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51364375.html

Some of the progressive illustrations.

Ray · 2012-10-11, 08:24

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Originally Posted by Deltaray

http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51364375.html

Some of the progressive illustrations.

Dat illustration of Asuna bathing. <3

Awrya · 2012-10-11, 08:40

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Originally Posted by Deltaray

http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51364375.html

Some of the progressive illustrations.

So it is Aria&Rondo of the Transient Sword SS.
Is the picture with Argo from ME7?

Netto Azure · 2012-10-11, 17:07

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Originally Posted by Deltaray

http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51364375.html

Some of the progressive illustrations.

Oh is that the Blacksmith from Rondo? O.O

Well it seems Vol.1 of Progressive is the SS in chronological order.

As for Ch.5 of Alicization. Darnnit. The UW is truly a lot more darker than the previous arcs. (Well maybe incorporating more of the other arcs like Fairy Dance) but yeah, I agree, there are some effed up nobles in UW. Probably due to the lack of conflict and ways to express the darker side of Human Nature.

NoirX · 2012-10-11, 17:24

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Originally Posted by Netto Azure

Oh is that the Blacksmith from Rondo? O.O

Well it seems Vol.1 of Progressive is the SS in chronological order.

As for Ch.5 of Alicization. Darnnit. The UW is truly a lot more darker than the previous arcs. (Well maybe incorporating more of the other arcs like Fairy Dance) but yeah, I agree, there are some effed up nobles in UW. Probably due to the lack of conflict and ways to express the darker side of Human Nature.

Those nobles are like the normal school bullies in real-life. War or no war, bullies like that still exist either way.

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-11, 17:28

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Originally Posted by NoirX

Those nobles are like the normal school bullies in real-life. War or no war, bullies like that still exist either way.

But bullies wouldn't normally go that far, I think. That's bit too messed up.

Ghanw · 2012-10-11, 17:29

No matter where you go there will always be a very cocky noble or a form of bully.

NoirX · 2012-10-11, 17:46

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

But bullies wouldn't normally go that far, I think. That's bit too messed up.

As messed up as how it is, it still exist. It even goes to the extent of killing other fellow student with only just a pretense of "bullying him/her". So in normal society its a common thing and thus so is in UW where they can't kill, they simply find holes in the rules imposed to commit supposed crimes.

crayven · 2012-10-11, 18:18

I see Kawahara really likes to use rape as a way to evoke rage and advance the plot and that's not a good thing. He's used it (and its variants) in Fairy Dance, GGO and now Alicization. I never like rape used in manga/anime as IMO it's just a shallow way to create a "tragic" backstory or make the story darker without the author actually trying. And it seems to be the case here.

iCK · 2012-10-11, 18:25

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Originally Posted by crayven

I see Kawahara really likes to use rape as a way to evoke rage and advance the plot and that's not a good thing. He's used it (and its variants) in Fairy Dance, GGO and now Alicization. I never like rape used in manga/anime as IMO it's just a shallow way to create a "tragic" backstory or make the story darker without the author actually trying. And it seems to be the case here.

What were the rape scenes used in GGO?

Chaos2Frozen · 2012-10-11, 19:00

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Originally Posted by crayven

I see Kawahara really likes to use rape as a way to evoke rage and advance the plot and that's not a good thing. He's used it (and its variants) in Fairy Dance, GGO and now Alicization. I never like rape used in manga/anime as IMO it's just a shallow way to create a "tragic" backstory or make the story darker without the author actually trying. And it seems to be the case here.

Would it have been better to kill or at least maim them?

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-11, 19:00

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Originally Posted by crayven

I see Kawahara really likes to use rape as a way to evoke rage and advance the plot and that's not a good thing. He's used it (and its variants) in Fairy Dance, GGO and now Alicization. I never like rape used in manga/anime as IMO it's just a shallow way to create a "tragic" backstory or make the story darker without the author actually trying. And it seems to be the case here.

No one was ever raped in the series, as far as I know. There was no rape in Fairy Dance either.

BTW, shouldn't we keep using spoiler tags when talking about web novel Alicization?

sky black swordman · 2012-10-11, 19:22

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Originally Posted by iCK

What were the rape scenes used in GGO?

Spoiler for Just in case:

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Also Kirito you better not let Asuna find out about this moment.XD

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crayven Member Join Date: Jul 2008	I see Kawahara really likes to use rape as a way to evoke rage and advance the plot and that's not a good thing. He's used it (and its variants) in Fairy Dance, GGO and now Alicization. I never like rape used in manga/anime as IMO it's just a shallow way to create a "tragic" backstory or make the story darker without the author actually trying. And it seems to be the case here.