(CR) Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus

[Hidetoshi Nakata]

I hope Kazuki, do not lose sight again.

[pyu]

Originally Posted by Sec

She isn't Yumiko, Yumiko died in ep 7 or 8 when the Festums first attacked the base. She is the new "hope" who just arrived to Earth and took form of Yumiko.

That's why she noticed them.

Technically, there has been two deaths already - Yumiko and then Seri. No idea what the Srinagar Mir did in Yumiko's case - but for Seri basically it was Orihime utilising the Fafner core to revive her and fight again.

Talk about OP. Do they even need to worry about the assimilation phenomenon since it has been shown they have the means to reverse it on numerous occasions via Sein? I mean, no good news for Kazuki I guess...

To be honest, I do think they need to be OP with the line-up of enemies that will soon come after them.

[Ansa]

It saddens me how hard it is to find any real discussion on this show with how good its been, seriously I logged back into this site for the first time in 3 almost 4 years because this is the only site I could even remotely find an active discussion on this series. Episode 9 was awesome, I got chills when the two showed up and the message was read allowed about them joining the battle and the ownage that ensued. It's a bit of a shame that you need to have pretty much seen all of the original show, the OVA and the movie to really know who many of the characters are and their motivations not to mention what is exactly going on in the world and what not. It's truly a show made for the fans of the series for better or worse (personally I think better but it also alienates anyone who hasn't seen many of the other things or doesn't remember them).

I'm really surprised the lack of relationship development in the show considering how pretty much everyone was pairing up in the original specifically with Kazuki and Maya who really feels like both she and Canon have a one sided love for Kazuki and he doesn't really show interest in either of them at least romantically (which I assume is because he either does not feel that way about them or doesn't think he will be alive long enough to justify acting on any feelings he might have)... That or the bromance with Souchi is what they're going for XD

Favorite small moment of this season so far is when Orihime kicks Seri out of bed, I was laughing for much longer then I should have been, that's what I really like about this series its got the huge epic mech battles with tons of references to all kinds of mythologies and lore as well as having a generally interesting concept of this kind of genre but at the same time still makes it all about the characters and many of the best moments in the series are more of the small moments that aren't really all that important but have better characterization then 90% of pretty much every other show in the mech genre (Gundam I'm looking at you!)

[Dharma]

It saddens me how hard it is to find any real discussion on this show with how good its been, seriously I logged back into this site for the first time in 3 almost 4 years because this is the only site I could even remotely find an active discussion on this series.

Yes, somehow animesuki is the only forum where shows I like getting at least some attention. And welcome back

Favorite small moment of this season so far is when Orihime kicks Seri out of bed

I guess Orihiime is tsundere to the core

[Terrestrial Dream]

Originally Posted by Ansa

It saddens me how hard it is to find any real discussion on this show with how good its been, seriously I logged back into this site for the first time in 3 almost 4 years because this is the only site I could even remotely find an active discussion on this series. Episode 9 was awesome, I got chills when the two showed up and the message was read allowed about them joining the battle and the ownage that ensued. It's a bit of a shame that you need to have pretty much seen all of the original show, the OVA and the movie to really know who many of the characters are and their motivations not to mention what is exactly going on in the world and what not. It's truly a show made for the fans of the series for better or worse (personally I think better but it also alienates anyone who hasn't seen many of the other things or doesn't remember them).

I'm really surprised the lack of relationship development in the show considering how pretty much everyone was pairing up in the original specifically with Kazuki and Maya who really feels like both she and Canon have a one sided love for Kazuki and he doesn't really show interest in either of them at least romantically (which I assume is because he either does not feel that way about them or doesn't think he will be alive long enough to justify acting on any feelings he might have)... That or the bromance with Souchi is what they're going for XD

Favorite small moment of this season so far is when Orihime kicks Seri out of bed, I was laughing for much longer then I should have been, that's what I really like about this series its got the huge epic mech battles with tons of references to all kinds of mythologies and lore as well as having a generally interesting concept of this kind of genre but at the same time still makes it all about the characters and many of the best moments in the series are more of the small moments that aren't really all that important but have better characterization then 90% of pretty much every other show in the mech genre (Gundam I'm looking at you!)

Yeah but it is really worth it. This franchise is way too underrated.

As for romance, I always felt that the show leaned toward Soushi and Kazuki. Soushi's illusion with Kazuki in the movie and the amount of time they spend together in the sequel, seeing all those scenes make their relationship definitely closer.

Also, is it weird that I don't remember Mark Nicht from the original? I clearly remember Sein and the battle at north pole, but for some reason I don't remember Nicht.

[BluePhirePB]

Haven't seen such visceral mech fights in a long time.

[Ansa]

Originally Posted by loco_loco

Yes, I saw the opening scene where Sein and Nich were flying together, leaving Tatsumiyajima. I hope so.

In addition, angela will release a new album called ONE WAY on May 20th, which one of the track titled Sono Toki, Soukyuu e (Until that Time, to the Azure), will be used as an insert song of Fafner Exodus (http://www.starchild.co.jp/artist/an...scography.html).

Pretty sure that was the song they used in ep 9. Gah why does it have to come out in another 2 months that song was fantastic... I want it now

[Retrorock]

Hopefully it does well in Japan, I've seen people in /m/ say its first week B/D sales hit the 10k mark, which is pretty dam good, but this was in /m/, so take things with a grain of salt.

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by Retrorock

Hopefully it does well in Japan, I've seen people in /m/ say its first week B/D sales hit the 10k mark, which is pretty dam good, but this was in /m/, so take things with a grain of salt.

It hit 9k in its 6th week and i think that's the most recent.

[Retrorock]

Originally Posted by IceHism

It hit 9k in its 6th week and i think that's the most recent.

Ah and 4chan does it again, any links? That's still pretty good isn't it? It's a tad higher than Durarara x2 was iirc, and that show was pretty popular

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Ansa

Favorite small moment of this season so far is when Orihime kicks Seri out of bed, I was laughing for much longer then I should have been, that's what I really like about this series its got the huge epic mech battles with tons of references to all kinds of mythologies and lore as well as having a generally interesting concept of this kind of genre but at the same time still makes it all about the characters and many of the best moments in the series are more of the small moments that aren't really all that important but have better characterization then 90% of pretty much every other show in the mech genre (Gundam I'm looking at you!)

Dude, I’m a fan of both Gundam & Fafner, and you pointing your finger at Gundam franchise in general for lack of characterization is not cool. Not cool at all. Are you forgetting how Char is such an iconic figure in the franchise due to his characterization? And some outings like MSG, Zeta, CCA, 08th MS Team, 0080, 0083, Unicorn and even SEED & 00 are heavy with characterization? Sure, the anime is used to promote gunplas but don’t ignore what’s actually in the story.

If you want to regain your faith in Gundam franchise’s characterization, feel free to watch their most recent OVA, MS Gundam: The Origin .

Anyway, nice to hear that Exodus did well. I just hope it's true.

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

If you want to regain your faith in Gundam franchise’s characterization, feel free to watch their most recent OVA, MS Gundam: The Origin .

Yeah, but then you have Reconguista and other recent Gundam TV series, which makes me bang my head every time wondering why I'm still watching it.

The only good Gundam series lately have been OVAs.

Fafner, when comparing TV series, is light years ahead of any recent Gundam TV series. 00 was good, but I have mixed feelings about it overall. GSD... I'm still trying to erase that from my memory.

So the last, really excellent Gundam TV series was Gundam Seed, and that was a long time ago. All the other excellent Gundam series are quite old, so it's not really fair to compare to more recent anime.

Fafner Exodus is just so good. It really is hard to knock it for any reason other than everyone looks like clones of one another.

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by Retrorock

Ah and 4chan does it again, any links? That's still pretty good isn't it? It's a tad higher than Durarara x2 was iirc, and that show was pretty popular

why do you keep referencing 4chan? they literally copypasta off japanese message boards.

http://www.someanithing.com/3033

[Retrorock]

Originally Posted by IceHism

why do you keep referencing 4chan? they literally copypasta off japanese message boards.

http://www.someanithing.com/3033

Precisely, it's as close as what a non-Japanese speaker could get to japan-known info, even if it is often unreliable.

Thanks for the link, been wondering where people get the sales numbers. Sorry if I annoyed you with 4chan references.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

Yeah, but then you have Reconguista and other recent Gundam TV series, which makes me bang my head every time wondering why I'm still watching it.

The only good Gundam series lately have been OVAs.

Fafner, when comparing TV series, is light years ahead of any recent Gundam TV series. 00 was good, but I have mixed feelings about it overall. GSD... I'm still trying to erase that from my memory.

So the last, really excellent Gundam TV series was Gundam Seed, and that was a long time ago. All the other excellent Gundam series are quite old, so it's not really fair to compare to more recent anime.

Regarding G-Reco, let me quote my post from another thread:

Spoiler for saving space:

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

All in all, G-Reco & Turn-A are perfect examples of series where nobody could hold back Tomino’s outburst of ideas and help him to slow/calm down and made the story more coherent. In the original MS Gundam, Hajime Yatate and (to some extend) Yoshikazu Yasuhiko still able to “reign” or “control” him that the pacing is not as superfast with so much infodump left and right (even for Tomino’s series’ standards) and have a lot better characterization. Thank god Origin 1 is directed by Yasuhiko and Imanishi instead of Tomino again. Better to contain Tomino’s crazyness in his own brand new series.

All that said, for all its shortcomings, I still immensely enjoy G-Reco. Beside the rich visuals and the exceptionally beautiful mecha fights that can give Gundam Unicorn & 00 a run for its money, I like the overall lack of EMO-ness of this series. Making this a good entertainment for me when I just want to sit back and enjoy all the eye-candy.

As for Gundam Build Fighters, those are meant to be fun lighthearted series which is also a giant ad for Gunpla and Sunrise never shy about it which makes it totally enjoyable (at least for modeller like me ). Gundam AGE & Destiny.........well.....the less you mentioned them the better.

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

Fafner Exodus is just so good. It really is hard to knock it for any reason other than everyone looks like clones of one another.

I hope if they do decide to make another season after this, it will set generations after Exodus so that Xebec will have an excuse to use better character designer than Hirai .

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by Retrorock

Precisely, it's as close as what a non-Japanese speaker could get to japan-known info, even if it is often unreliable.

Thanks for the link, been wondering where people get the sales numbers. Sorry if I annoyed you with 4chan references.

I'm not sure what you mean by unreliable. Japanese people just look through oricon's dvd chart and the Blu-ray chart and just add stuff as they appear. Oricon is not unreliable. It's practically the official chart system of the country.

[Retrorock]

Originally Posted by IceHism

I'm not sure what you mean by unreliable. Japanese people just look through oricon's dvd chart and the Blu-ray chart and just add stuff as they appear. Oricon is not unreliable. It's practically the official chart system of the country.

I meant 4ch, not oricon

[Sec]

Originally Posted by pyu

Technically, there has been two deaths already - Yumiko and then Seri. No idea what the Srinagar Mir did in Yumiko's case - but for Seri basically it was Orihime utilising the Fafner core to revive her and fight again.

Just rewatch the scene, I'm not so sure about Seri case, I think she just lose conscious due to Festum's strikes, it's not that she was dead. But then Orihime woke her up and all the wounds were gone . At least, she's still herself. Maybe Orihime has the power to cure people.

There're so many death flags that I don't know who will die first but at least death count until episode 9 is 1 .

[Estavali]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

Also, is it weird that I don't remember Mark Nicht from the original? I clearly remember Sein and the battle at north pole, but for some reason I don't remember Nicht.

I'm surprised you don't remember Nicht. It's the monster that attacked the island, killed Miwa's dad (in addition to a hell lot of people) and stole Soushi before heading North.

[Terrestrial Dream]

Originally Posted by Estavali

I'm surprised you don't remember Nicht. It's the monster that attacked the island, killed Miwa's dad (in addition to a hell lot of people) and stole Soushi before heading North.

It has been years, but I do seem to recall Soushi getting taken.