2012-07-05, 14:54 | Link #61 | |
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Except that there's a HUGE difference in the sense that Law is a warlord, and Luffy is not. Whether they like them or not, the marines will HAVE to let them share some of the credit where credit is due since the duty of the Shichibukai is to keep the world's power balance in check. Maybe if Law were still just a supernova he'd be screwed, but there's a very good possibility that resolving the PH crisis would work in his favor thanks to his warlord status.... |
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2012-07-05, 15:50 | Link #62 | ||
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that's romance right there, just look at sanji lol |
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2012-07-05, 16:14 | Link #63 | |
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What is the point of the War Lord if he going to stab you in the back when the final moment comes? Croc and Jinbi sided with White Beard. Wasn't their mission to fight White Beard? Black Beard used the WG for his own gain and got level six prisoners and the quake fruit. The WG does not have to do anything for Law. If smoker learns about the alliance between Law and Luffy and reports it, the WG will not be pleased. Luffy is in direct confrontation with the WG, his father is Dragon, He sided with White Beard, and he has declared war on WG. If Luffy becomes a Yonkou level fighter, would you trust Law to uphold his contracting knowing there is an alliance between the two? Second the fact that Jinbi and Croc were placed in Impel down because they got caught or did not follow the contract proves that the WG will punish you if you prove to be a liability. |
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2012-07-05, 16:19 | Link #64 | |
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^It must be love. Anyway, you're either trolling me (and actually doing a good job till now) or delusional...either way this discussion is only taking up space. |
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2012-07-05, 21:40 | Link #65 | |
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I wouldn't call it incest when each member comes from a different family. Sure Oda refers to each member as brother/sister/mother/father, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are such in terms of bloodline. With some of the members, best if they hooked up within the crew rather than be raped by strangers. |
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2012-07-05, 23:51 | Link #66 |
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Why do I get the feeling that Happy Harpy isn't part of DonFla's crew and is just there cause she's awesome...and doing research...
And now seeing as anything Vergo eats ends up on his face I want to see him different things just to see his face. God I feel like one of those food fetishists that get pleasure from feeding others. Have we been reading too much OP hentai doujinshi? |
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Uh, so did you forget that the reason Crocodile joined Luffy in the first place was so that he could KILL Whitebeard? And this was despite him not being on Luffy OR the government's side? And he was already an ex-warlord by the time the war came around, so he doesn't really have jack to do with my point about Law. Jinbei doesn't count either since he quit of his own volition (notice that he wasn't stripped of his status when he was imprisoned in Impel Down). Fact is, it's not going to look good for the government if they have to constantly boot warlords out of their ranks. I mean, if insubordination were really that great an issue, then Doflamingo for instance would have already lost his position looooong ago. Dofla, who was literally playing around with vice-admirals like puppets when he was first introduced. But I stress again, Law helping Smoker to resolve the Punk Hazard conspiracy would work wonders for him AND the government. Because as I already said, the Shichibukai's duty is to maintain order in the world's balance, and nothing more. I mean damn, if the government could overlook Doflamingo dabbling in slave trade (in which the world nobles even participated in, in case you forgot), I'm sure they'd turn a blind eye towards whatever shady business Law's up to as long as he helped stop Caesar from creating nukes or whatever doomsday weapons he's been building in his lab...... Quote:
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That doesn't explain the french fries stuck to his face in that flashback panel, though! |
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2012-07-06, 12:38 | Link #74 | |
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In fact it is even more dangerous.. you assume you have 7 powerful allies, but in fact they aren't on your side and can turn on you at any moment. If your battle plan hinges on these allies, you will lose the battle.
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2012-07-06, 12:45 | Link #75 | |
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2012-07-06, 13:09 | Link #76 |
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^Xellos pretty much got it. NONE of the warlords are loyal to the government. That even counts for Kuma, who was the most obedient amongst them. Really, my main point is that, as long as the government benefits from the shichibukai's deeds as well, why should they boot them out of their ranks just because they're only slightly suspicious of them? I mean, even us readers don't know what Law's plans are yet. So as I already said, I could see them taking action against Law if they had more concrete evidence of him scheming some sort of major mischief, but otherwise, they'd just leave him to his own devices.....
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2012-07-06, 14:41 | Link #77 | |
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Jinbi and Croc do matter. Do you think Croc would have lost his title of the WG had known what he was doing in alabasta? Alabasta is a member of the WG. Jinbi was brought to Impel down for refusing to fight White Beard, his title was already up for questioning. If Jinbi had stayed at impel Down do you think the WG would have taken away his title after the war? Second can you compare Law's alliance with Luffy to minor infraction like playing puppets with Vice Admiral, having slave trade, and over looking other petty crimes? You seem to think all actions the Shichibukai do are equal and should be judged equally. In the situation like this the WG can not have a one size fits all judgement on the Shichibukai. Each one and there actions has to be decided on weather they are Liability or beneficial. The WG did not give Croc back his Title and Daflamingo was given orders by someone higher then Sengoku to kill Moria, proves that there is only so much the WG is willing to put up with. If Law is not working for the WG (Like I think), he could loose his title if the they know about the alliance. Law working for the WG? This whole argument got me thinking. Law was at Marine Ford and Marines had identified him. Even Admiral Kizaru called him by name and recalled him at Saboday. Why would the WG give Law Shichibuaki title knowing he helped Luffy survive the onslaught at MarineFord? Did Law and the WG make a deal? What if some of the pirates hearts that Law handed the WG were from his own crew? That would explain why his crew has not been seen so far. That last question was a little extreme and unlikely scenario. |
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2012-07-06, 15:08 | Link #78 | |
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Wrong, my friend. I believe the opposite - that the warlords' deeds don't all hold the same weight. This is precisely why I say that the government would forgive Law for helping to take down a psychotic bio-terrorist while Croc would have his title revoked for secretly plotting against them. Like Xellos said, the government doesn't expect unwavering loyalty from the shichibukai. But they nonetheless DO recognize the power and influence they hold when compared to other pirates and thus figured that they'd use them to their advantage. That even applies to what I said earlier about Doflamingo providing slaves for the world nobles. As long as the WG reaps the benefits for the warlords' deeds (no matter how honest said deeds were or not), they'll basically leave them alone unless they're sure that they're plotting against them (as I've repeated like a hundred times already ). |
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2012-07-06, 15:42 | Link #79 |
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Luffy is and enemy of the WG and declared his intentions, one of his crew member is Robin another well known enemy of the WG and Law just made an alliance with him. How would that not be perceived has a threat to them? Second how would he get the credit for helping them when he was the on obstructing Vice Admiral Smoker investigation in the first place? He even attacked the Marines straight out and tried to silence them. He will not get the credit if Smoker is the one reporting the whole thing. They will give this to smoker to make the Marines look good and this will only leave a spot light and many more questions on Law. Last edited by grey_1960; 2012-07-06 at 15:54. |
2012-07-06, 16:04 | Link #80 |
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^Hancock has killed multiple marines and she has never been questioned or otherwise reprimanded (at least not until the Marineford War). It was only when she was going to refuse a direct order from the WG that she had to fall in line with the Marines.
A Shichibukai is only as good as his or her reputation. Killing marines as well as pirates only helps their rep, so I doubt Law would have his status revoked even if he had killed all the G-5 marines as so long as he took down (or helped take down) Caesar. |
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