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[H] · 2006-05-27, 09:53

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Originally Posted by Cruzz

Uh, well apparently you don't know about them too well

Seme is the one on top (the "man") and uke the one on the bottom (the "female").

Ooh ic, thx for the correction

solwyvern · 2006-05-27, 10:14

I know we're supposed to disregard the info from the game, but according to wiki:
→ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utawarerumono

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Dori & Gura (ドリ　& グラ, )?, (Seiyū - Akeno Watanabe)
Twin brother archers serving under Oboro. They are very feminine in appearance and mannerisms, so in effect they often get mistaken for girls.

And this screencap from that 'mini-game' (fun game, btw)

*Assumes that Guraa is Female(the blush) and Dorii is Male.

Xellos-_^ · 2006-05-27, 10:21

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Originally Posted by solwyvern

I know we're supposed to disregard the info from the game, but according to wiki:
→ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utawarerumono

And this screencap from that 'mini-game' (fun game, btw)

*Assumes that Guraa is Female(the blush) and Dorii is Male.

We know the twins were male in the game. But the twin in Full Metal Panic 2nd Raid were males in the novel, however the animeation studio change them to female in the anime for some twincest. And Utawarerumono has the same animeation studio as FMP 2nd raid. So just because they were males in the game doesn't they are guy in the anime.

Tsu · 2006-05-27, 11:20

I'm no expert on kyuudou, but shouldn't their muneate be larger if they were female?

Angela Sanctisstessa · 2006-05-27, 20:19

in such terms...yea OOa....female shoulder slings should be bigger than that...

Onizuka-GTO · 2006-05-27, 20:44

er...care to explain what your talking about? (^_^? )

Kamui4356 · 2006-05-27, 22:02

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

We know the twins were male in the game. But the twin in Full Metal Panic 2nd Raid were males in the novel, however the animeation studio change them to female in the anime for some twincest. And Utawarerumono has the same animeation studio as FMP 2nd raid. So just because they were males in the game doesn't they are guy in the anime.

FMP: Second Raid was done by KyoAni, who were too busy working on Suzumiya Haruhi to make Utawarerumono.

Angela Sanctisstessa · 2006-05-27, 22:15

onizuka-gto, i suppose you were asking abt the chest protector/muneate?

as far as i know, maybe kj1980 or some japanese members can answer you better.

But to state it right, Doriy and Guraa aren't wearing those, it's more like an arrow quilt (note that their arrow sack is located at their back*

besides, muneate is only worn by females and the male counterpart has either a thin sash or none,

for links check, http://www.kyudo.com/kyudo-e2.html

rukamaya · 2006-05-28, 02:38

Their both male...from what i think, they do sound like boys in the anime, so as they act like a boy in the series, i dont know how i said it, but they just do...

Onizuka-GTO · 2006-05-28, 06:01

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Originally Posted by rukamaya

Their both male...from what i think, they do sound like boys in the anime, so as they act like a boy in the series, i dont know how i said it, but they just do...

You forget, young boys sound similiar to young girls, and the seiyuu for them is female....

felix · 2006-05-28, 07:08

I say both male...

I don't think there's any evidence to support any claim...

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Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

You forget, young boys sound similiar to young girls, and the seiyuu for them is female....

There's only one... for both of them ... do they pay her double ...

Angela Sanctisstessa · 2006-05-28, 07:41

how should we know the payroll system?

Lost · 2006-05-28, 09:53

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Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

You forget, young boys sound similiar to young girls, and the seiyuu for them is female....

LOL.... the fact that their seiyuu is female should make them MALE!!!

Think Edward Alric

Angela Sanctisstessa · 2006-05-28, 10:50

Al too..not too mention some other male characters that uses a female voice cast like Kenshin of Samurai X, Koganei Kaoru of Flame of Recca....

PGilis · 2006-05-28, 12:05

They both are male. I already saw/read proof enough.

Of course, they both have tails, but aparently almost all the male characters of their race have tails too, not just the womens. Check for instance Episode 2, when they were reconstructing the altar.
Not only those with fluffy ears - like Eruruu, but those with elf-like ears like Oboro or Oyaji can have small tails, hidden inside the panties. Even Benawi has a tail, too.

As for the voice, like someone else said, it's a common practice female seiyus give voice to very young male characters.

But the REAL problem is: They're both gays!! That's why they were trying jewely in episode 06!

Here's the proof:

Spoiler for The twins's genre:

WARNING! Game spoilers. Read at your own risk.

Spoiler:

Are you sure? Really sure you want to read?

Spoiler for Twins's genre:

OKAY! First, there's this part on the game:

Hakuoro steps outside and is greeted by Oboro. Hakuoro asks him if he's become accustomed to staying there, and Oboro laughs and says "I'm me, I don't change no matter where I go."
Hakuoro chuckles and asks about the others, especially the twin girls, wanting to know if they are taking care there. Oboro looks at him confused and says "Twin girls? What twin girls?" Hakuoro says Dorii and Guraa, and Oboro tells him that he is mistaken. Hakuoro asks "Mistaken?" and then Dorii and Guraa show up, and say they are ready to do their escort. Oboro says they've come at a good time.

Oboro then tells Hakuoro that they are men. Hakuoro says "What?" and Oboro tells him that honestly, they are men. He's quiet for a moment and then looks shocked and tells Oboro that he must be joking, and Oboro asks him why he would joke over a matter like that. Hakuoro repeats "Men..." and Dorii says that yes, they are men, and Guraa asks if he would like to confirm it. Hakuoro questions "Confirm it?" and Guraa says yes, and Dorii says by all means if he wishes it, to remove their clothes. He looks shocked and they say that if he is reluctant, they can help him. He starts stuttering no, feeling a blush on his cheeks,
and they say "We see" and he notices they look disappointed. He tells them he is sorry he had mistaken them as girls, and they say it is okay. Oboro tells them that they should be going, and they bid farewell to Hakuoro and the three of them leave.

After they are gone, Hakuoro is still in shock over how the twins are men, and he really did want to have it confirmed just a little... Eruruu then shows up behind him and asks just what he wanted to confirm. He says "Well, those two..." and then trails off, realizing she is there, and jumps, asking just how long she's been there. She laughs and asks if he likes boys, and it's fine, even if he has unusual tastes, she doesn't mind. He protests that is not the case, and she sweatdrops, saying it really is okay. He protests again that it isn't so. She then says "A man's male companions..." and then starts blushing profusely. Hakuoro says "Eruruu?" and she blushes and quickly says she has laundry to do and runs off. Defeated, Hakuoro falls to the ground, saying "I'm not like that..."

Poor Hakuoro. Not only was shocked for discover the truth, but the twins tried to make a move on him! Even Eruruu thought maybe he likes young boys...

Sometimes too much Charisma is not really a good thing.

And here is the proof they are gays:

Spoiler:

ChainLegacy · 2006-05-28, 12:14

I always just assumed they were female without even thinking they could be male... Judging from this thread, though, I guess they must be male.

Onizuka-GTO · 2006-05-28, 19:24

well, since everyone is certain they are male, it makes me even more believe they are female, if only to wipe those smug faces. go on kyoAni! Make them female just to prove everyone wrong!

*absently notice the FMP Second Raid fans nodding their head sympathetically*

Xellos-_^ · 2006-05-28, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

well, since everyone is certain they are male, it makes me even more believe they are female, if only to wipe those smug faces. go on kyoAni! Make them female just to prove everyone wrong!

*absently notice the FMP Second Raid fans nod their head sympathetically*

We could use some twincest in this show and maybe another loli.

Green² · 2006-05-28, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

well, since everyone is certain they are male, it makes me even more believe they are female, if only to wipe those smug faces. go on kyoAni! Make them female just to prove everyone wrong!

*absently notice the FMP Second Raid fans nodding their head sympathetically*

But, should the twins originally be male, doesn't mean that it's not possible for another studio to do the same switch.

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Originally Posted by Kamui4356

FMP: Second Raid was done by KyoAni, who were too busy working on Suzumiya Haruhi to make Utawarerumono.

Blizzer · 2006-05-29, 03:15

I think they're both males cause Hakuoro and Oboro seem like they don't want girls to fight and most importantly

they sound like boys

View Poll Results: What is their gender?
Both are male.	119	50.42%
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2006-05-27, 20:44	Link #26
Onizuka-GTO Holy Beast ~Wuff!~ Scanlator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, UK Age: 41	er...care to explain what your talking about? (^_^? ) __________________

2006-05-28, 12:05	Link #35
PGilis B-Gamer and anime otaku Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil	They both are male. I already saw/read proof enough. Of course, they both have tails, but aparently almost all the male characters of their race have tails too, not just the womens. Check for instance Episode 2, when they were reconstructing the altar. Not only those with fluffy ears - like Eruruu, but those with elf-like ears like Oboro or Oyaji can have small tails, hidden inside the panties. Even Benawi has a tail, too. As for the voice, like someone else said, it's a common practice female seiyus give voice to very young male characters. But the REAL problem is: They're both gays!! That's why they were trying jewely in episode 06! Here's the proof: Spoiler for The twins's genre: WARNING! Game spoilers. Read at your own risk. Spoiler: Are you sure? Really sure you want to read? Spoiler for Twins's genre: OKAY! First, there's this part on the game: Hakuoro steps outside and is greeted by Oboro. Hakuoro asks him if he's become accustomed to staying there, and Oboro laughs and says "I'm me, I don't change no matter where I go." Hakuoro chuckles and asks about the others, especially the twin girls, wanting to know if they are taking care there. Oboro looks at him confused and says "Twin girls? What twin girls?" Hakuoro says Dorii and Guraa, and Oboro tells him that he is mistaken. Hakuoro asks "Mistaken?" and then Dorii and Guraa show up, and say they are ready to do their escort. Oboro says they've come at a good time. Oboro then tells Hakuoro that they are men. Hakuoro says "What?" and Oboro tells him that honestly, they are men. He's quiet for a moment and then looks shocked and tells Oboro that he must be joking, and Oboro asks him why he would joke over a matter like that. Hakuoro repeats "Men..." and Dorii says that yes, they are men, and Guraa asks if he would like to confirm it. Hakuoro questions "Confirm it?" and Guraa says yes, and Dorii says by all means if he wishes it, to remove their clothes. He looks shocked and they say that if he is reluctant, they can help him. He starts stuttering no, feeling a blush on his cheeks, and they say "We see" and he notices they look disappointed. He tells them he is sorry he had mistaken them as girls, and they say it is okay. Oboro tells them that they should be going, and they bid farewell to Hakuoro and the three of them leave. After they are gone, Hakuoro is still in shock over how the twins are men, and he really did want to have it confirmed just a little... Eruruu then shows up behind him and asks just what he wanted to confirm. He says "Well, those two..." and then trails off, realizing she is there, and jumps, asking just how long she's been there. She laughs and asks if he likes boys, and it's fine, even if he has unusual tastes, she doesn't mind. He protests that is not the case, and she sweatdrops, saying it really is okay. He protests again that it isn't so. She then says "A man's male companions..." and then starts blushing profusely. Hakuoro says "Eruruu?" and she blushes and quickly says she has laundry to do and runs off. Defeated, Hakuoro falls to the ground, saying "I'm not like that..." Poor Hakuoro. Not only was shocked for discover the truth, but the twins tried to make a move on him! Even Eruruu thought maybe he likes young boys... Sometimes too much Charisma is not really a good thing. And here is the proof they are gays: Spoiler: Are you sure you want to read? Spoiler: Okay. One day, when Oboro was drunk/unconscious they told to Hakuoro "don't worry hakuoro-san we'll take GOOD care of him" and they took him away. In the next morning Oboro commented to Hakuoro on how they were sleeping in his room naked and that his body felt funny... Poor, poor Oboro.

2006-05-28, 19:24	Link #37
Onizuka-GTO Holy Beast ~Wuff!~ Scanlator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, UK Age: 41	well, since everyone is certain they are male, it makes me even more believe they are female, if only to wipe those smug faces. go on kyoAni! Make them female just to prove everyone wrong! *absently notice the FMP Second Raid fans nodding their head sympathetically* __________________ Last edited by Onizuka-GTO; 2006-05-28 at 20:15.

2006-05-29, 03:15	Link #40
Blizzer Nemo Me Impune Lacessit Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Age: 34	I think they're both males cause Hakuoro and Oboro seem like they don't want girls to fight and most importantly they sound like boys __________________ My Top 5 1.Shadow Skill 2.Fate/Stay Night 3.Hanbun No Tsuki Ga Noboru Sora 4.Gunparade March 5.Kaibutsu Oujo

2006-05-27, 11:20	Link #24
Tsu Burorororou Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Zubababaan Age: 38	I'm no expert on kyuudou, but shouldn't their muneate be larger if they were female?

2006-05-27, 20:19	Link #25
Angela Sanctisstessa I'm a boy..K? Join Date: May 2004 Location: =\|=mugen no monogatari=\|= Age: 35	in such terms...yea OOa....female shoulder slings should be bigger than that...

2006-05-27, 22:15	Link #28
Angela Sanctisstessa I'm a boy..K? Join Date: May 2004 Location: =\|=mugen no monogatari=\|= Age: 35	onizuka-gto, i suppose you were asking abt the chest protector/muneate? as far as i know, maybe kj1980 or some japanese members can answer you better. But to state it right, Doriy and Guraa aren't wearing those, it's more like an arrow quilt (note that their arrow sack is located at their back* besides, muneate is only worn by females and the male counterpart has either a thin sash or none, for links check, http://www.kyudo.com/kyudo-e2.html

2006-05-28, 02:38	Link #29
rukamaya Junior Member Join Date: May 2006	Their both male...from what i think, they do sound like boys in the anime, so as they act like a boy in the series, i dont know how i said it, but they just do...

2006-05-28, 07:41	Link #32
Angela Sanctisstessa I'm a boy..K? Join Date: May 2004 Location: =\|=mugen no monogatari=\|= Age: 35	how should we know the payroll system?

2006-05-28, 10:50	Link #34
Angela Sanctisstessa I'm a boy..K? Join Date: May 2004 Location: =\|=mugen no monogatari=\|= Age: 35	Al too..not too mention some other male characters that uses a female voice cast like Kenshin of Samurai X, Koganei Kaoru of Flame of Recca....

2006-05-28, 12:14	Link #36
ChainLegacy 廉頗 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Massachusetts Age: 34	I always just assumed they were female without even thinking they could be male... Judging from this thread, though, I guess they must be male.