2013-03-30, 18:18 | Link #521 |
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In TAMNI, there is warping as the teleporting object displaces what was previously occupying the space where it arrives. Otherwise I cannot see how the displacement could take place (other than moving whatever object was in the space to a different dimension)
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2013-03-30, 18:26 | Link #522 | ||
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One version of string theory,M-Theory, has 11 dimensions and it is a unifying theory that deals with strings, but the implications of that are a little fuzzy. Most likely teleportation has to do with quantum superpositioning. To make it simple imagine you put schrodinger's cat in a box then put that box in a warehouse of other identical boxes. According to quantum superpositioning that cat would be in all of the boxes at once. Teleportation would allow one to exploit this by being able to actually make the cat move from one box to the other. Displacing would be automatic if this happened because this would mean that the teleported object replaced the original's place in existence. It's the most rational explanation given what I know of ESPer powers (it fits very well with the idea of personal reality). As shown by the fact that it did not instantaneously materialize Awaki's power is not this, but Kuroko's still might be. |
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2013-03-30, 18:31 | Link #524 | |
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And because she can't. Well, they call it the 'hypothetical 11th dimension' if it means anything to you.
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2013-03-30, 18:52 | Link #528 | |
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Yeah, that doesn't really make sense. Though I suppose you could use the concept of M-theory to explain it. |
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2013-03-30, 19:35 | Link #529 |
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Hmmm... ok, since you want to use real science, using the quantum superposition, why are objects displaced when Kuroko teleports something into them?
If I understand that theory correctly, the teleported object would need the (entangled) energy available at the spot where it is to appear in order to reconstruct itself. BTW, an unfortunate consequence of her power being used under this theory would be that Kuroko kills herself (and anyone she carries) every time she teleports |
2013-03-30, 19:40 | Link #530 | |
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Quantum super-positioning would mean that an object's existence would shift to another place on the argument that it was technically there to begin with due to electron clouds being technically unbounded. Anything that was there to begin with would be displaced because electrons repel each other. No additional energy is needed in this case because nothing is changed. the cat was simply in that other box all along, even if only technically. |
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2013-03-30, 19:58 | Link #531 |
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OK... let's see if I'm getting it... no wait, I'm more confused now.
Does this imply an initial composite of quantum states accounting for a virtual omnipresence, where Kuroko choses the outcome (the place to be) among infinite posibilities of existence? Or does she create the desired quantum state on the fly and simply shifts between just two possibilities? Also, about the displacement, wouldn't the electron repulsion explode the two superposed objects if one isn't moved beforehand? |
2013-03-30, 20:12 | Link #532 | |
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And it would be the former. That is the definition of super-positioning though technically the extent of it would simply be the later since she can only choose origin and target, but she can choose the target within a 2.5million cubic meter sphere so the possibilities of existence are hardly slight. |
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2013-03-30, 20:34 | Link #533 |
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I'm not talking about atomic-strength explosion, but how the... vectors, would be all over the place if the teleported object appears in the same place as another.
... Or would the objects merge?... although that's not what happens here, there's a clear displacement. Basically my concern is how can the teleported object remain unharmed in the event of physical superposition. |
2013-03-30, 20:37 | Link #534 | |
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There would be no vectors because there is no movement |
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2013-03-31, 08:28 | Link #538 | ||
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...You may have the wrong impression of personal reality. ALL Espers have it, independently of what's their ability, and I can't see Quantum Mechanics explaining them all. |
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2013-03-31, 08:37 | Link #539 | |
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You can explain everything through quantum mechanics, that's the point of quantum mechanics. Quantum physics leads to regular physics which leads to everything else (except math but to hell with math). |
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2013-03-31, 08:58 | Link #540 | |
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Hmm... I don't feel like searching the manga, but here's something from the novels
Spoiler for TAMNI Vol.8:
There are further mentions of the 11th dimension in that volume. You can go see for yourself. If you're still dissatisfied I can search the manga. I could swear Kuroko mentions it somewhere. Quote:
Which is the reason of the constant search for a different theory that can, being the M-theory, strings and superstring attempts at doing just that. |
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