Vermillion – Étranger à L’arc Rouge

[wuhugm]

Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata II

I noticed that a few chapters had been translated since I last looked. Had felt like things were dragging but the most recent stuff was good.

How do we figure out the type of the poison? Go and "ask" those who know...

Simple, but effective.

Recent stuff you meant translated one...

wew... just read the raw man

Sadly no update for the last few months

[kari-no-sugata II]

Well, I don't have huge amounts of spare time/energy so I don't tend to read raws until I feel the "need". Getting close with the most recently translated chapters...

[wuhugm]

Following Junai, one more of my favorite novel has been revived Oh yeah~
They are in that forest now~

[El Rue]

Q: So, how may times?
A: Lots?

Ah...good ol' cliffhangers.

[wuhugm]

^Those bacouple~

Spoiler:

New artworks btw

[wuhugm]

New chapter again

More mysteries have been unraveled
Their bodies back on Earth probably dead already

[cadu_]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

New chapter again

More mysteries have been unraveled
Their bodies back on Earth probably dead already

What happened to them? Also how far are the raws?

[wuhugm]

^Raw is ch55
Almost everything has been revealed about why they arrived in that world.

[El Rue]

Very interesting new chapters indeed.

Their experience in the forest & its otherworldly atmosphere & finally meeting someone who can answer their questions (which adds more as well), it was a long wait but what we got was quite significant.

[wuhugm]

Okay, so the new chapter has answered everything related to their arrival to that world

Here you go, absolute spoilers

Spoiler for Massive spoilers, do not open:

Spoiler for You have been warned:

Kei and Airin investigated the forest which has eternal mist covering it. Mist with myths similar to the mist that brought them to that world. There they met the one known as The Sage of The Forest, who's actually a being from higher realm, and everything was revealed to them.

There are parallel worlds, and there are layers of worlds. DEMONDAL resembles that world so much causing The Spirit of Time of that world, KAMUI, capable of traversing between worlds. Kei and Airin were some of the people and objects brought back by KAMUI.

Now, the method of traversing for people, is to take only their soul and completely reconstruct their body from zero in the other world. But this is where it's getting interesting. The body is not "the original body", well, it could be the original body, but it's the form that soul considers as the self. This is the reason for Kei and Airin powers and appearance.

As you know (or maybe not), Real Airin lost both of her legs in an accident and Real Kei is like Yuuki from SAO. The reconstructed bodies however, are perfectly healthy. In Airin's case, her player character was male but her soul still identifies herself as girl and with healthy legs too. For Kei, he completely forgot his crippled body and became his game character. Their AI spirits also brought together and became real spirits. The horses too lol~

[SamVision]

The translations are painfully slow. From what has been already translated, I have already learned that when it comes to story writing, you should never put a vital main protagonist character on a bus early on in the story. You dumb author.

[El Rue]

^I'm guessing It's just from your point of view since the flow & progress of the story is gonna' way slower based on what's available & translated.

Originally Posted by wuhugm

Okay, so the new chapter has answered everything related to their arrival to that world

Ja, lots of revelations once again. Kay is way luckier & way more "prepared" about the truths & its fallout. Maybe its been so long but I can't remember much 'hints' about Airin/Eileen's case/situation (I think I remember a dream flashback but maybe I'm misremembering).

Pretty cool results too about their spirit partners, their horses new "special attributes" are also pretty amusing (almost like a new species of sorts?).

[wuhugm]

^1 horse boi
Mikazuki died early in the story
The new horse, Sakura, was obtained in this world

Airin's case of disability was mentioned before.

Btw, Kei is still growing, his magic capacity is rising
But, author said it won't be to the level of TUUUEEEEE

[kari-no-sugata II]

Originally Posted by SamVision

The translations are painfully slow.

Unfortunately true, but I do appreciate that it is being translated.

From what has been already translated, I have already learned that when it comes to story writing, you should never put a vital main protagonist character on a bus early on in the story. You dumb author.

You mean how Aileen (where the translations currently are in chapter 12) has been unconscious since the end of chapter 5? Yeah, I've not been enjoying that aspect - it's rather frustrating how long it has taken. I don't have a problem that she's been unconscious but much more that it's been WAY too long.

[wuhugm]

Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata II

You mean how Aileen (where the translations currently are in chapter 12) has been unconscious since the end of chapter 5? Yeah, I've not been enjoying that aspect - it's rather frustrating how long it has taken. I don't have a problem that she's been unconscious but much more that it's been WAY too long.

Coz the translation is slow duh.

For me it was only an hour or so. In the story it was also only 1 night.

[kari-no-sugata II]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

Coz the translation is slow duh.

For me it was only an hour or so. In the story it was also only 1 night.

So during that one hour, you weren't going "hey, is Aileen going to wake up already" at all?

Certainly the translation speed doesn't help at all, but if I was an editor I would strongly recommend the pacing of the "emergency situation" to be drastically improved (ie cut down the amount of words for that section by 50% or more even with the same action).

[El Rue]

^ I personally wasn't going like that when I went through the raws. Maybe I was just that really into the fight & scenes maybe.

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^1 horse boi
Mikazuki died early in the story
The new horse, Sakura, was obtained in this world

Airin's case of disability was mentioned before.

Btw, Kei is still growing, his magic capacity is rising
But, author said it won't be to the level of TUUUEEEEE

I know, Kay is wearing something made from parts of it after all. The magic here is also one aspect that I enjoy seeing how it is something pretty rare and/or hard to use overall.

Ah, I'm reminded of the other people also transported (the one w/ the leopard girl), kinda' curious on how they're been fairing.


Oh hey, interesting comments in the blog about the translations huh.

[wuhugm]

^Author still remembers the "Jap The Ripper" thing

Yea, when will those guys show up again. They got that amazing magician there.
Very valuable since magic here so hard to exercise, needing catalyst and shit.

Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata II

So during that one hour, you weren't going "hey, is Aileen going to wake up already" at all?

Certainly the translation speed doesn't help at all, but if I was an editor I would strongly recommend the pacing of the "emergency situation" to be drastically improved (ie cut down the amount of words for that section by 50% or more even with the same action).

No, but I can undertand that waiting that night to resolve IN MONTHS is painful as hell

The original raw took like 2 weeks real time for her to wake up, probably producing similar effect like the translation
The point is to create tension and show how deadly this world is (actually deadly, unlike other isekai stories)
It was done greatly here imho, many failed to create thrilling situations

[kari-no-sugata II]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

No, but I can undertand that waiting that night to resolve IN MONTHS is painful as hell

The original raw took like 2 weeks real time for her to wake up, probably producing similar effect like the translation
The point is to create tension and show how deadly this world is (actually deadly, unlike other isekai stories)
It was done greatly here imho, many failed to create thrilling situations

I'm totally fine with creating tension and giving the protagonist a real sense that they (or people they care about) could die. I'm all for it. However, I think that sidelining a clearly important character for so long so early was not a good idea. If some of the world-building and interaction with the villagers had been done outside the time when Aileen was unconscious then it would have removed this issue and improved the tension. I'm not saying that what was written was "bad" overall (it was good but could have been great) or flawed in concept, just that there was an issue with the implementation.

The lack of tension is indeed a big problem in many WNs. It's fine if it's intended to be "slice of life" but if it's supposed to be a more action orientated series then having all the tension of a "walk-through" is bad. (Ditto bad pacing, poor prose, personality-free MCs, nonsensical powers or world-building, etc etc....)

[wuhugm]

Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata II

sidelining a clearly important character for so long so early was not a good idea.

Oh boi, if you read Yaritsukai to, Kuroneko, you will rage so hard
Other charas aside from MC get sidelined for so long in the early stage

Vermillion is actually kinda like that. So you all are overestimating Eileen's initial importance to the story.
Now everyone knows that Eileen is the only heroine in the story, I mean she's on the cover and all, but it started as WN, right?
Initially, people didn't know how the story will develop, it could even turn harem, so her absence for awhile wasn't really a bother back then. The initial readers followed the story intently, the ones read later reached her recovery quickly, so honestly the ones who think this is a problem are only english readers who doesn't get their fast translation lolol