2013-02-27, 12:41 | Link #1961 |
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Explain to me how the title can mean that. I'm 99% sure アカメが斬る! can not be translated as that without some very, very liberal interpretation. If anything, it would be "Akame Kills", without specifying what/who she kills.
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2013-03-01, 14:53 | Link #1970 |
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i think I found something related to the new chapter :
http://schwarz-walzer.at.webry.info/...article_2.html anyone able to to make out what it says ? |
2013-03-01, 20:20 | Link #1971 |
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Hey, just recently got into the series(read up to the most recent chapters in a few days). I remember skimming once a while ago and thinking "Oh this is the typical idiot hero story(Tatsumi is overly cocky, yet dimwitted for getting scammed by Leone)...(If only I just read to the end of the first chapter, impatient me).
This series definitely brings in a lot of moral complexities. Both the Jaegers and our Night raids are fairly amicable people outside of killing and are clear parallels. Really, no one is really "good" or "evil" in the traditional sense. Our heroes are at best Anti Heroes and while they kill pretty ruthlessly, they know it's still murder(which I find a bit refreshing, since acting like killing those who deserve it is justified is something I particularly hate). It's a depressing series definitely(I get this feeling that all the protagonists are going to die by the end), but I think it sets up the tone well. Tatsumi's a fairly likable protagonist; not too annoying or perverted, grappling with moral questions like anyone would. At the same time, part of me wishes he'd be more developed(seems like he's blended into the ensemble a bit too much). I wish Akame would get a bit more fleshed out(She's the title character isn't she?), but then again it's become more of an ensemble piece. My main criticism is going to sound a bit paradoxical but I feel like it moves too fast and yet too slow in some ways. The series keeps moving, onto the next fight or the next death, but you're also left wondering "what is this accomplishing", since you know that it's going to take a while before they can challenge Edesse. I guess it is some of the downsides of having a monthly manga, in that you have to fit in a large chunk per month. Overall, I'm enjoying the series and I will keep tabs on it. |
2013-03-02, 05:30 | Link #1972 |
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I actually dislike the concept of "grey and grey morality" a lot, you know.
Try to put yourself into the victim's shoes, those guys won't be able to think about their torturer's good side. The bad guys usually remain bad while people with good consciousness will oppose them, first by negotiation (will hardly ever work, ever heard of peace by firepower and military intervention?) then try to act like vigilants. In the end bloodshed is unavoidable. If the UN saw a dictator doing some ethnic cleansing and mass rape, then just ignore because they'll will be criticized by cynical assholes as being "grey" for intervening and doing similar action to put a stop to those horrible acts, the world would be a far more horrible place with everyone abusing "grey and grey morality" as well as "the strong devour the weak" as they pleased. While the villains have their good side (of course, towards only their own group), they act like assholes for most others. They're assholes, even with their good side, since most of their actions are so horrible. If only they held the concepts of "treat others like how you want to be treated" and "put yourself into another person's shoes", the world would be a better place to live in. But it's not like the oppressors will ever try to understand how the oppressed feel unless they were put into the same situation themselves anyway. |
2013-03-04, 00:51 | Link #1974 |
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I think it's really an issue with readers used to having "Absolutes" in their fiction (Obvious Good vs. Obvious Evil) rather than the Relativistic Morality we have at play in Akame ga Kiru. I think Terry Pratchett summed it up well in Small Gods, in the paragraph that followed the short description of the head gaoler's retirement (do read it!).
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2013-03-04, 16:02 | Link #1977 |
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The only villains who are 'grey' are Wave and Bors. Everyone else is just insane/insanely evil. On the protagonist side it seems once you've gotten more in depth character development, you die...
Tatsumi also doesn't seem to have his own convictions. He seems to get easily influenced by everyone else and get swept up in the flow of things, especially if a cute girl is involved -_-. I just re-read the original Kenshin manga recently and frankly I think it does a much better job with the themes that Akame ga Kiru is trying to tackle. |
2013-03-04, 16:31 | Link #1978 | |
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Wave is closer to Lawful Good than every single Night Raid member (including Tatsumi) and no villain at all. Bors was lawful neutral. If you want grey villains, look at Night Raid, who are murderers for hire, but for an understandable motivation. |
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2013-03-04, 17:22 | Link #1979 | ||
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Ran it through an online translator and things I can make out is that Kurome and Wave bond quite a bit and she participates in the next mission despite her injuries. Quote:
And Tatsumi has never changed his conviction since chapter 2, and that was better make country so his friends deaths weren't meaningless, he's just willing to do almost anything to bring it about. I do agree with you on Kenshin, but to be fair there is no other series that really does that better. Last edited by Iron Maw; 2013-03-04 at 17:50. |
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2013-03-04, 18:06 | Link #1980 |
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Nonsense, Wave knows that the empire is seriously messed up, but he chooses to disregard that fact because his main priority is to repay his benefactor. As for Esdese, I understand that she's a soldier but that doesn't excuse her behavior towards those that she captures. you don't see Night Raid gong around roasting people in boiling oil.
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