2007-04-06, 01:59 | Link #121 |
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And since i am a fan of starcraf, i am sold I will tolerate the possibility of characters remaining cliched and not fleshed out if this at least manages to deliver good combat scenes ... and that means i hope the giant Eva v2.0 won't appear too often.
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2007-04-06, 06:20 | Link #123 |
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What great animation, mecha designs are really crisped, but why do i feel this anime stinks!!
Such great work of art wasted in this crappy anime. Im getting Hitman:Reborn vibes out of this. Is there anything different,radical and extreme? Whose the writer, look like some cheap harem anime writer who wanted to venture into sci-fi. |
2007-04-06, 06:31 | Link #124 | |
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Tow Ubukata is the brainchild of Heroic Age and also the man behind the 2nd half of Fafner, Le Chevalier D'Eon, and the author of the novel Mardock Scramble, which had production problems and thus the anime release was cancelled. He's also a novellist and has released multiple books. It's perfectly understandable if you are not fond of Ubukata's writing styles or what not, but he's clearly above "some cheap harem anime writer". It's just the first episode of one anime, give it a chance to exploit it's setting more.
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2007-04-06, 07:05 | Link #125 |
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I am endlessly bewildered as to why people are picking on this particular show for not yet being "different, radical and extreme." Has anything in this season yet been "different"? Of course not! The scope of the story already sets it apart from every other sci-fi story to have been made for quite a few years.
You want to complain about bad writing this early on in the game, go camp out in the Saint Beast thread. |
2007-04-06, 07:37 | Link #126 |
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Now you said it. Okay, this writer is very ambitious guy. He wants to be a sci-fi novelist very badly. Ive seen 1st Ep of Le Chavelief, quite boring, the old french style movies hes trying to depict hard, but i have no interest there. Ill give this guy a break, but all the reviews of his animes interested me not.
Like they say, first we got "Devoc" and "Brotherhood of the wolves" style depiction in Le Chevelier. Now we got him trying to depict Starcraft in Epic Age. This whole thing about superior alien race and one idiot to be hero will be the saviour of the universe and prophecy thing is really booring. Id give this anime a 5 shounen star ranking after Hitman:Reborn and eyeshield3x3. |
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2007-04-06, 08:11 | Link #129 |
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I dont just watch animes thats on my sig. Ive watched animes that have broken peoples head in two.
Im just astonished at the animation but disspointed at the way the story and plots were written. I thought sci-fi were really heavy science logic that makes your head go crazy.I just think this writer is overrated. Maybe there arent many good sci fi writers among the writers. I may have been spoiled by the countless books ive read that was written by Stephen Sagal,Hawkings,Michael Crinton and all those crazy sci-fi writers. When i watch a sci-fi anime like this with hardcore animation, but it look liked a shounen anime, like a kids game. Dont hate me for it. I just dont share the optimism this guy have for his novels. Ill give a few more episodes a try. |
2007-04-06, 08:25 | Link #130 |
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I meant that more as a reference to the quality of Kiba and Ikki as shows. I mean, both of them can be fun in their own way, but complaining about shounen themes or stock characters and liking them seems a little... contradictory.
Anyway, Michael Crichton isn't really sci-fi per se. I love his books, especially his older stuff, but because of all the research he does, he's careful to ground them meticulously in potential reality. You know what, though? His characters are pretty forgettable. You're absolutely right in that hard SF is about the concepts rather than the beauty of the writing or characterization. Yet hard SF is also more or less dead as a genre nowadays, for better or for worse. Just because a story isn't based on groundbreaking physics doesn't make it something other than sci-fi. I think the fact that this borrows from Greek mythology says a lot about what to expect. Perhaps they could have put it in a historical setting or just on a different planet or whatever--but they chose to set it in space, against the tapestry of the entire universe (and perhaps beyond). That's perfectly valid. And again, detailed & realistic sci-fi musings aren't really something one should expect from most sci-fi anime IMO... someone earlier in this thread mentioned Crest of the Stars, which is probably about as good as it gets in the medium. |
2007-04-06, 08:57 | Link #131 |
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Just watched the subtitled version. Now I really get all the StarCraft references, really sounds like the theme came out of it and I can very much classify this is the anime simplification of Blizzard's usual far-fetched space opera mythological lore. Nothing about Heroic Age is really bad so far, the characters may be just cut-boards of nothingness with no personality at all but they're not really important for what they're trying to do, the animation is barely above average and outside of the creatures mostly uninspired but it isn't ugly by any means and the rhythm is even if heavily aggravated by a incredibly expository script entertaining so far. I wasn't expecting this much from it to be honest, so I'm gladly surprised so far. Let's see where this goes.
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2007-04-06, 09:22 | Link #133 | |
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Regardless, people are entitled to their own opinion on whether or not Heroic Age delivered for them personally. I won't deny that episode 1 lacked character dynamics outside of Mother/Food, but my personal judgement accepted that weakness since the show clearly wants to exploit a balanced focus on the Starcraft-ish setting, setting up the climax of the Messiah, and the Argonaut + Tarzan part of the story. True, it can end up as a miserable fail, but I'll give it at least 3 or 4 more episodes before throwing it in the bin if it really sucks that bad. And hard science fiction in Heroic Age? In a show where there's apparently a group of people capable of creating stars, god-powerful aliens that can be symbioted into humans, humans with teleportation powers, telephathy, and shield bubbles? I dunno, but maybe some people are looking at this the wrong way or something. Anyway, I think I'll stop rambling about this until episode 2 has aired.
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2007-04-06, 09:53 | Link #134 | |
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Read your arguments. They seemed shallow at best. Maybe you need to watch more anime to broaden your horizons?
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2007-04-06, 13:43 | Link #135 | ||||
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If you didn't see Gundam 0079 it's your problem, you can't come here and say to not talk about it to others just because you didn't see it. Anyway regarding the Utawareruomo reference: I agree on the fact that Hero's Tribe design is very unoriginal and just recalls me that beast within the show. It was the first thing which flashed in my mind when I saw the monster within Age. In the introduction we see that a Hero Tribe member can actually destroy an entire planet and I find it annoying: the things which are too overpowered get boring fast. I hope Age won't use his "true form" too often, even if I doubt it because he can do nothing without it. Quote:
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I'm the first saying that this series left me with some doubts: but it has great potential and the first episode could only be meant to introduce us to the general context, which is quite complex to tell the truth. Even one episode didn't explain lots of things: why did the Golden Tribe leave for another universe? What were Age doing in that falling ship? Who destroyed half of the planet where Age was introduced to us? What about the Silver Tribe? Etc etc... If this series is planned for 26 episodes then one episode is nothing, not to mention that it's made by Xebec, which is the maker of Fafner. Instead of saying it's crap and what not, let's give the show some time instead of running here trying to post the most cooler post of the day! Quote:
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2007-04-06, 15:23 | Link #137 |
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The spoiler business is a difficult problem. In the thread for a particular anime, I think it's all right to talk openly about an episode a day or so (some people say a week or so) after the sub comes out.
But I haven't seen all the classics, let along some good shows from last year, so I have sometimes been spoiled accidentally when someone mentions the key point of a show in another show's thread. I'm not saying what people should do, just that it can be a problem. I liked the plot so far, myself, to the minor extent we were exposed to it. Didn't seem boring. We'll see where it goes. If the grand themes don't move you, then it's a problem, though, I guess. I personally think that originality is overrated. I think emotional effectiveness is more important. The old themes can be the most emotionally powerful ones, if you're able to get into them. The writer is Tow Ubukata, who wrote Fafner, Chevalier D'Eon, and Mardock Scramble and is thought (not least by himself) to be a genius.
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2007-04-06, 15:49 | Link #139 |
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Oh, please. What Zappster said about spoiler tags was perfectly reasonable. Making a joke out of his point won't get you anywhere. At the least, people should be able to browse series-specific threads without being worried about random spoilers from other shows popping up all over the place. That's just common sense.
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2007-04-06, 15:50 | Link #140 | |
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There shouldn't be untagged spoilers about anime Y in anime X discussion thread. < What about this is so hard to understand ?
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