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2012-08-01, 01:25 | Link #482 | |
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2012-08-01, 01:28 | Link #483 | |
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it will only lower ones self esteem even more and the discrimination will worsen unlike scholarship system they may bully her but lets face it a Top ranking person even though poor will commend recognition and more possible a better future |
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2012-08-01, 01:34 | Link #484 | |||
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In Episode 4, Satsuki implies that she's making the budget cuts for a reason, and implores him to read her full manifesto. When Yuuki does read the manifesto, the first thing he discovers is the bit about the scholarship students. So there is clearly a connection between the need to save money, and whatever they intend to do about the scholarship students. If they were to abolish the program, you would think that would save money, which should invalidate the need for all the cutbacks. So, I don't think it would make any sense from what we've seen if her proposal is to use the club savings (?) to eliminate a scholarship program. It does make more sense, in context, if her proposal is to at least replace the scholarship program with something else so that the students will be recognized as full-fledged students, and not be bully targets. They also previously commented that some of her policies regarding the scholarship students wasn't terribly popular, and given that they seem to be widely disliked, I don't think a policy about "getting rid of them" would provoke that reaction (isn't that what the bullies want?). So yeah... something isn't clear here. Edit: Ah! Quote:
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2012-08-01, 01:44 | Link #485 | |
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it may sound harsh but with this them scholarship grantee wont be targeted by them annoying Bullies................. and in turn have more time learning and getting along with the student body im not saying financial aid system is bad but lets face it with that system it will be hard to live a life of a student instead your like doing part time job instead of keeping the money, all income goes to school for tuition fees edit there is no POOR student who is rank 100 below since they are poor the poor always strie to be the best no matter what tried and proven both in anime and reality and i can vouch since in my school and former college all ther top 50 rankees almsot all of the scholarship grant student i know is in that top 50 |
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2012-08-01, 01:56 | Link #486 |
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Yes, this is a good point. With the current system the way it's implemented now, it would be very hard for the financial aid students to improve their academic standing and fit in with the rest of the school because of their work situation. Having to do this work means they can't participate in clubs or other extra-curricular activities, and the time they spend working means that they're also not able to use that time to study to improve their grades. And given the fact all the money they make goes to the school, they may be forced to take additional odd jobs (like she did in this episode) to help make ends meet. So the Financial Aid system they have now is fundamentally flawed -- it lets people who are otherwise unable go to the school, sure, but it basically turns their school life into a "second-tier" experience. It's natural that they're being ostracised.
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2012-08-01, 02:22 | Link #487 | |
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that i was trying to say but cant seem to put it in text >_< |
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2012-08-01, 02:31 | Link #488 |
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Is this show worth picking up? I couldn't even stand the first couple of minutes or so (it's pretty bad in my opinion), but I am ..intrigued, by the classroom teacher. Is there a romance with her at all?
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2012-08-01, 06:22 | Link #490 |
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Based on Satsuki's manifest, she indeeds want to reform the current "ketoku" with a regular scholarship. If i am not mistaken, any form of scholarships in japan do have to be paid back at some point, while you are exempt from paying fees using the current system by "working for it". I am pretty sure this will deter lots of people with low income going to Takafuji.
Yeah, all of the speculations on the scholarship matter are mostly correct so far. The anime has not mentioned a few details (yet) for any further detailed explanation. Last edited by hyl; 2012-08-01 at 06:37. Reason: typo |
2012-08-01, 06:39 | Link #491 |
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It was also my understanding that Satsuki was trying to abolish clubs to save money for the scholarship students funding. And that makes me root for her even more. Honestly it's kinda hard to get into this Election business when the POV is the team that I really want to lose. To me they're no less annoying than the Air Sumo club.
I wish Satsuki was the main character...
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2012-08-01, 06:54 | Link #492 | |
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2012-08-01, 06:55 | Link #493 | |
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you will pay em back at some point??? aint it already covered in income tax cuts? well im not to sure about scholarship but in my country there is 3 types of scholar ship Type 1 Valedictorian scholarship 100% free admission and no need to pay tuition fees and other collective fees all you have to pay are the uniform and books Type 2 Salutatorian scholarship 50% discount on all fees except books and uniform Type3 Athletical scholarship Discount and freebies will depend on your athletic results and academic grades but im soo rooting for shinonome but still i do hope MC wont just run for SC Pres. just to save his club i want him together with former SC press and Shinonome to make an EPIC trio team of anti corruption SC >_< |
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2012-08-01, 06:59 | Link #494 |
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Maybe a fact that not everyone knows, but (upper)high schools are not manditory in japan. So i doubt that there will be many Valedictorian types scholarship available for high schools.
edit: I think that the original game was made before the act in japan was passed that regular high schools were made tuition free for students, but then again i also think Takafuji isn't a regular high school. Last edited by hyl; 2012-08-01 at 07:13. |
2012-08-01, 09:14 | Link #495 |
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Still, I think we are suffering from the designated Protagonist syndrome. Let's face it- I think the Food Club idiots (especially those annoying two Monkeys which are shooed out before things get serious) really may have been deliberately designed to be irritating. The real plot really is the personal dramas and the greater Political Drama here.
And Satsuki's budget cuts are ludicrously bold, IMO. She knows that it will cost her votes, and she probably knows that alot of those same idiots of the type bullying Aomi may well vote against her because of her Manifesto's Scholarship Proposal. And I suspect there seems to be quite a fair amount. |
2012-08-01, 09:38 | Link #496 | |
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And I like Nozomi. Junior mad scientists are a character type I find engaging. They're smart, just spacey, and she's got a really good naming sense with her inventions. Plus, connections. The current president wouldn't be helping them out of it it wasn't for her. |
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2012-08-01, 09:43 | Link #497 |
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I just hope the discrimination towards the scholarship students is given more basis and thought that just "Dirty lower class scum". I mean from what I've seen, if there is a campaigner running for greater equality and benefits to the lower class then aversion to that will probably be backed up by BS philosophies like "benefits create a society of entitlements" and "trickle down economics". It'll be interesting to see what kind of arguments they would put up in this show (assuming it does actually become a point of political contention).
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2012-08-01, 10:58 | Link #498 | |
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2012-08-01, 11:18 | Link #499 | |
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2012-08-01, 11:26 | Link #500 |
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Well, the manifesto (that we did see) does state that the bullying problem has grown out of hand. Perhaps that isn't the sole reason, but it does seem to be a major facet of it (again, following that logical flow of events in the episode). I don't know if we have to really see everything to understand the point being conveyed, but if there is more, then I imagine it'll be disclosed early in the next episode.
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