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Old 2013-04-19, 08:41   Link #221
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That's the only MGS game he made a mistake with. The others are fine as long as it's Snake.
I disagree with this. MGS2 is a gaming masterpiece that was ahead of its time. The problem is that it went over a lot of people's heads (they just didn't get the premise and concept Kojima was conveying). Another thing is that people are afraid/don't like change, hence at least one of the reasons they didn't like Raiden (the others I find to be shallow).

Anyways, Kojima always delivers a great final product. I was a bit disappointed with MGS4, but it's still an awesome game.

And back to my previous question of preference between Liquid and Solidus, Solidus all the way. Badass president with a noble cause but immoral actions. He came across as a lot more confident, strategic, and assertive, that Liquid did. Liquid was always whining and complaining about being an inferior product, when in fact he was ignorant the whole time and was actually the dominant clone. He came across as foolish in that sense, and placed way too much emphasis on the importance of genes. Solidus was a real boss.
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Old 2013-04-19, 10:25   Link #222
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If they are going to port Twin Snakes they should put the original audio and turn off first-person aim on Ocelot's battle. Seriously, they ruined Gray Fox IMO.

I'm okay with all the Matrix effects (IIRC the artist was from matrix's crew)
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Old 2013-04-19, 19:48   Link #223
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I disagree with this. MGS2 is a gaming masterpiece that was ahead of its time. The problem is that it went over a lot of people's heads (they just didn't get the premise and concept Kojima was conveying). Another thing is that people are afraid/don't like change, hence at least one of the reasons they didn't like Raiden (the others I find to be shallow).

Anyways, Kojima always delivers a great final product. I was a bit disappointed with MGS4, but it's still an awesome game.

And back to my previous question of preference between Liquid and Solidus, Solidus all the way. Badass president with a noble cause but immoral actions. He came across as a lot more confident, strategic, and assertive, that Liquid did. Liquid was always whining and complaining about being an inferior product, when in fact he was ignorant the whole time and was actually the dominant clone. He came across as foolish in that sense, and placed way too much emphasis on the importance of genes. Solidus was a real boss.
The main reason is the character change without prior notice, it's like a WTF?!
It's not shallow it's a you're going into a Batman movie or gonna read a Batman comic then you get Superman. That weighted more than anything else.

As for the story it's great, it's the character change that affected it all.

Anyways another Tweet.
Seems it's a done Deal. MGS1/Twin Snakes/MGS2/MGS3/MGS Peace Walker(Portable Ops?)/MGS4

https://twitter.com/Kojima_Hideo/sta.../photo/1/large

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Old 2013-04-19, 20:27   Link #224
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Why makes you conclude that Twin Snakes is in? This hi-res render of MGS1 Snake?
HD Collection also had one for Raiden, but didn't mean anything special in the end. But fine by me...

I also hope they revamp Peace Walker to make it look like less of a port.
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Old 2013-04-19, 20:51   Link #225
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Hi-Res Snake will probably be or not be Twin Snakes, but Iam really hoping for it to be Twin Snakes.
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Old 2013-04-20, 06:59   Link #226
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The main reason is the character change without prior notice, it's like a WTF?!
It's not shallow it's a you're going into a Batman movie or gonna read a Batman comic then you get Superman. That weighted more than anything else.
It's called a "surprise". Why would Kojima want to spoil something huge like that before the game's release or at any other point throughout playing the game in the beginning? Your Batman example doesn't exactly work because we actually get to play as Solid Snake in MGS2 during the tanker portion. Again, it was a radical change Kojima wanted to experiment with, but the fans (particularly the westerners) just didn't like that (hence my previous point about change).

To reiterate, I disagree the character change was a mess up. I'm glad Kojima had the balls to try something different.
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Old 2013-04-20, 21:40   Link #227
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this fan made parody of certain third person and first person shooter games

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Old 2013-04-21, 02:06   Link #228
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Looool
THAT was amazing.

Loved all the references/parodies.
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Old 2013-04-21, 12:21   Link #229
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this fan made parody of certain third person and first person shooter games

Spoiler for video:
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Old 2013-04-21, 17:51   Link #230
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Phew, MGS4 finished. Amazing game, spent like half an hour scouring the database.

Bring on V!

Biggest revelation from 4 for me:

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Old 2013-04-21, 18:36   Link #231
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Old 2013-04-21, 21:16   Link #232
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It's called a "surprise". Why would Kojima want to spoil something huge like that before the game's release or at any other point throughout playing the game in the beginning? Your Batman example doesn't exactly work because we actually get to play as Solid Snake in MGS2 during the tanker portion. Again, it was a radical change Kojima wanted to experiment with, but the fans (particularly the westerners) just didn't like that (hence my previous point about change).

To reiterate, I disagree the character change was a mess up. I'm glad Kojima had the balls to try something different.
Which the surprise didn't work for the many. Only one portion that leaves you hanging that leaves you yearning to place as Snake.
He did something different which many didn't like, but adjusted too in time, thanks to new mgs games.

Anyways this is the new "Matal Gear BIGBOSS"

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Old 2013-04-23, 21:00   Link #233
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It's either Keither Sutherland or David Hayter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDP1x8tX5jY

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Old 2013-04-24, 15:56   Link #234
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It's either Keither Sutherland or David Hayter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDP1x8tX5jY

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I hope it's David and they're just messing with us (but I'm not very hopeful).
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Old 2013-04-24, 17:41   Link #235
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I hope it's Kiefer. It would be a welcome change. Hayter is no good at voicing aging characters. He has to force his voice too much, and lately he's got a tendency to overact. His performance in Peace Walker was downright grating. It's time to get rid of him.
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Old 2013-04-24, 20:02   Link #236
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I think he has a fantastic voice as Young Snake, but I agree that Old's grated on me.
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Old 2013-04-24, 21:42   Link #237
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Hayter is fine for Solid Snake, but Big Boss should have a different voice.
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Old 2013-04-24, 23:58   Link #238
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Analysis

David Hayter confirmed? and him not being involved is just an April Fools Joke? Hmm....look closer detectives

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Old 2013-04-25, 02:43   Link #239
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I'll be honest, the more I think about Keifer Sutherland voicing Big Boss, the more I like it. Not that I was against it in the first place, Sutherland has a good voice for Big Boss. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be buckets worth of happy if Hayter comes though.

To me, it's a win-win. Both Hatyer and Sutherland have what it takes to voice Big Boss, so if either of them are doing it, I'm all set.
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Old 2013-04-25, 11:35   Link #240
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I swear, I so enjoy the MGSV marketing campain... it's just such a big troll fest. I'm more excited about this marketing than the actual game itself!
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