Kanon - 2006 - Episode 11 Discussion / Poll

[Shiroth]

This episode by far has some of the funniest quotes/moments from the series so far - just thinking back on the emotional drama built up from the last couple of episodes, you completely forget this show can be so funny. Plenty of rewatch value over Christmas me thinks~

Anyway, the moe factor went straight upto the clouds with this one. Plenty of moe scenes for each female member of the show - especially Nayuki & Mai.

& yes, Shiori eating ice cream made my year.

[Sorrow-K]

Some of the comedy in this ep was outstanding. The scene where Ayu and Nayu (lol) first met had me in stitches. Kanon's comedy is very similar to series like Haruhi (for obvious reasons) and even Ouran, in that the jokes just sort of sneak up on you and tend to be a bit of a surprise. That's the sort of humour I really appreciate in particular and I think Kanon has executed it better than I ever could have anticipated.

I didn't think the visuals were typical Kyoto Animation in this ep, meaning it was still several tiers above the majority of other anime but not at the absolute pinnacle as some other their previous titles have managed to maintain for the entire length of the series. Actually, on second thoughts I can't remember a series of their's that didn't maintain an impossible, impeccable quality for the entire length. Kanon is a first in that respect, but I suppose it shows they are human after all... just exceptionally talented humans. And yet, despite this, the visuals were still incredible. There was one shot just before the ED rolled where Mai had her back turned to the camera. Even just the way she stood and the angle of the camera communicated a massive amount of her current emotions at that point. That KyoAni can impress me so much even on their off days is just outstanding. I don't care if I sound fanboy-ish here, I don't think anyone could ever understate the impact KyoAni are making on the entire industry by doing what they're doing.



Can Kyuuichi see the demons? I don't think it's been clearly shown if he can actually see them or not and if he can't, it hasn't been shown why he seems to be so willing to believe her. I'm troubled by this, a touch. When so much care has been taken with the rest of the story, I'm surprised that a detail like this hasn't been given any attention.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Sorrow-K

it hasn't been shown why he seems to be so willing to believe her. I'm troubled by this, a touch.

The whole Makoto part of his life is one part which leads him to believe Mai - remember, it was her who mentioned about staying close to Makoto.

[Kinny Riddle]

I'm almost done with the Shiori pathway in the game, and seeing Shiori munch on her ice cream - in the middle of winter - made my heart melt once again.

The more I play the game the more I am impressed at how Kyo-Ani did well to blend back into the weaved storyline without forgetting Makoto's existence, while slowly entering into Mai's story and still managing to progress Nayuki, Ayu and Shiori's storyline at the same time.

As a left-hander, I'm glad Kyo-Ani never forgot that Ayu's left-handed by having her hold her fork and knife in the "left-handed" way.

[andiyar]

It was good to see Yuuichi still reflecting upon Makoto - each time she was mentioned I caught a whif of both pain and acceptance when he replied, even in his evasive explanation to Mai there was a hint of sadness there. Bravo to KyoAni for that.

The scene with Nayuki & Yuuichi at school before they went home? Oh my, was I laughing at that. Beautifully done, and terminated at the exact right moment.

Another huge plus in this episoide was Kaori. Ah yes, listening to and watching her deliver those lines? Beautiful.

Spoiler for not for first timers...:

Foreshadowing much? It's nice to see how Kaori views miracles at this point, which makes me wonder how soon we're going to delve into the Shiori arc and find out all kinds of fun and magical things. Oh, and see if KyoAni have decided what's wrong with the dear girl.

A solid nine. Slightly less perfect animation, but to be expected. Music and VA were as usual, fantastic. Looking forward to ~waltz~... and wondering where Mai will hide her sword in an evening gown.


-Andiyar

[nikorai]

Hello. Im not a Kanon expert but i enjoy the show a lot. to be honest i didnt watch the 2k2 anime nor did i play the game so its all new to me.
speaking of the impressions i didn't expect to find a really funny episode in Kanon which is more natural for Haruhi no yuutsu or ouran. thats sort of comic relief after 2 very touching episodes with lots of crying.

The scene with Nayuki & Yuuichi at school before they went home? Oh my, was I laughing at that. Beautifully done, and terminated at the exact right moment.

indeed. now there's a good way to get on people's nerves.
the dialogue was something like this
- 今日は一緒に帰る
- 誰が
- 祐一が
- 誰と
- 私と
- どうして
- 約束したからだよ
- 誰が etc

[Skane]

Random Thoughts on Kanon Ep11

• While I am glad that Makato was not magically forgotten in this episode, it is far too early to celebrate yet as she may be forgotten by the next episode. Until the series end, I will withhold judgement on whether they handled the girls' existences properly.
  
  At least it was handled better than the girls in Air though. Will we get to see Mishio in the latter episodes? Epilogues do not count.
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• On a related note, it was wise of them to showcase the family's acceptance of Makoto's departure, and their optimism that she would return in the future. It makes Yuuichi's( and Nayuki's, and Akiko's) cheerfulness that much more believable.
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• Was the opening scene a photo-realistic drawing of a cloudy sky or an actual photo? If it is an actual photo, it's going to remind me of the NGE movies( bad times, bad times). If it is an actual drawing, major props to the artist.
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• This will be the first episode where I will have to state that the standard of the animation quality has... erm... dropped? Honestly, I cannot say that the quality is bad, because it is still a gazillion times better than most anime out there, but compared to the usual KyoAni standard, it is a noticeable difference.
  
  We're such spoilt brats.
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• Additionally, there were a LOT of reused frames in this episode( although nobody can beat Gundam Slideshow Destiny), but just like in the earlier episodes, it was used for comedy; and so I can easily forgive them for this.
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• Makoto's manga have the word, 'Key', on them. For the few of you that do not get it, 'Key' is the name of the company that made the game Kanon is based on.
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• Lots of Mai action in this episode, and as an ardent fan of Mai, I heartily approve. Still... it makes me wonder how they will resolve her issue this early without overlapping with one of the other arcs...
  
  Currently cautiously optimistic that KyoAni will not screw over Mai fanboys by shortchanging her storyline.

[Kisuke06]

Yuuichi and Ayu dancing was just priceless.

This was a very good episode, probably the funniest episode so far.

And in the next episode we will see Mai in a dress, huh? This is something to look forward to.

[Owaranai Destiny]

Thoughts on episode 11:

Spoiler:

While it seemed as though Yuuichi, Nayuki and Akiko recovered miraculously from Makoto's departure, it can be attributed to the mental strength of Yuuichi himself. Besides, Nayuki's statement for having Ayu over made sense on the whole. It's not going to help anyone by staying sad and depressed all the time.

Another thing that might act as a premonition for things to come (I haven't played the game, so I don't really know) is how Ayu forgot that her parents were on vacation as well as the lack of knowledge about Ayu on Yuuichi's part. I have a feeling it will come into play later for her arc.

Thumbs up for the change in the mood of the anime. Not everything is about Makoto and the depression that comes in the aftermath of her absence and going by arcs, it would be downright silly to harp on about the sudden change in the mood.

Yuuichi is entertaining as usual together with partners Nayuki, Ayu and Mai. The exchange between him and the former seemed normal but hilarious in a way, probably thanks to their expressions. As a Mai fanboy myself, the 'Banzai!' part was of course another funnier and cuter (insert biaseness here) segment of the show. Ayu, of course, at the brunt of Yuuichi's jokes and an excellent dance partner with Yuuichi. Too bad he can't take her to the dance as well. Imagine what a hit they will be on the floor!

Spoiler:

Watching back to the episode where Yuuichi first meets Mai at school in the night, the demons are actually not something that are only imagined by Mai. I recall Yuuichi getting roughly shoved/hit aside by some invisible force before Mai followed up from behind. While Yuuichi might not be able to see, there is something in the corridor that appeared which we viewers are able to discern, and I'm pretty sure they might do something to mess up the dance somehow, with Mai taking more blame from the student council president.

In conclusion, I guess one thing's inherent after watching the preview and the episode itself: "The way to a Mai's heart is through her stomach." [This is a terrible joke, btw ) In any case, I'll be waiting eagerly for episode 12 for more Mai goodness and a good storyline for her arc as well.

EDIT: Oh my, what a surprise...NO ONE voted below 8? Well, it's Mai after all....

But seriously, where did all the skeptics go?

[Kinny Riddle]

Originally Posted by nikorai

indeed. now there's a good way to get on people's nerves.
the dialogue was something like this
- 今日は一緒に帰る
- 誰が
- 祐一が
- 誰と
- 私と
- どうして
- 約束したからだよ
- 誰が etc

Ah, that classic scene from the game. Yuuichi sure is bored, and credit must be given to Nayuki for actually having the patience to play along.

I'm glad that part was included. Kyo-Ani basically kept the whole thing line by line, and I think I practically recited it as I remembered from the game.

Another funny bit they kept from the game was the poster scene, when Yuuichi was looking at the dental hygiene poster rather than the Dance Ball poster Nayuki was referring to.

[Julius Firefocht]

A nice recovery from the heartbreak that was episode 10. I salute KyoAni, never had reused scenes made me laugh harder. That part about Yuuichi and Nayuki going home together was pure genius.

As noted by a lot of fellow posters, the animation dropped somewhat, but it is still head and shoulders above what any other studio has done this season. The boys at KyoAni probably needed a break after the effort placed into the previous episode.

Aya and Nayuki were uber-kawaii, and Mai is just plain good in this episode. Can't wait for the next episode, I want to see Mai and Yuuichi dancing!

[Matt Soulblade]

Spoiler for Reflections about Ep 11...:

The Makoto arc is over :/... but she was not forgotten! Looks like the family (and specially Yuuichi) has been able to gather strengh to continue although the sadness is still present, which was the perfect excuse to make Ayu stay in the house. The part with Shiori was great, when she asked ice cream I screamed "YOU CRAZY BIATCH!!11!!1!" really, to ask ice cream with that enviroment .
So, it looks like were entering Mai's Arc. I hope she just does not dissapear like Makoto, though, it will be bad if all the girls just started to do so.
And btw, I wonder if there is something behind Mai's indiference. I mean, at the end, she just gets pulled by the current (Yuuichi in this case). Next episode, Yuuichi in a Tuxedo lol lets see that XD

Thumbs up to the little change of mood. I hate the type of series that maintain the drama all the time (aka Saikano) it makes it hard to see them (because you know that nothing good can happen).
Got a 9, a good 9 indeed.

[Lilith]

I think I'm beginning to like "Nayu". She was really funny when dealing with Yuuichi, very kind to Ayu and sooo cute when saying "lier" while pouting. Besides, I like blue hair!

This episode was quite nice to watch. The transition was well done, it made me happy that everyone asked about Makoto. I was even more happy to see my favorite girls Ayu and Shiori. <3

Looking forward to see Mai in a dress~

[Blue Reverie]

Ok, a guy without a tuxedo I can understand, but a girl witout even a semi-fancy dress suitable for a school dance? I can't believe it! (ok.. I can believe Mai/Ayu, but Sayuri/Nayuki/Shiori?)

Is it uncommon for girls in Japan to own bonified dresses? (as opposed to mere skirts)

And even Yuuichi, he seems to have a rather varied wardrobe, surely he has some nice slacks, a collared shirt, and some maybe kinda nice jacket to wear.

Or is this dance really strict on formal dress?

[New/Old]

Actually, think of the dance as a ball. Hmm-hmm.

[Klashikari]

well well... this will sound like some fanboyism /fanatism but... hell, i can't really believe how KyoAni is dealing with such pace.

this episode was really welcomed : the depressed climax from the previous episode could kill the pace of the serie.
instead of forgetting makoto completely or transform the world into a bewailing state, they did a great job by putting such lighthearted moments (and indeed, several mentions to our beloved fox ~~ thumbs up for sugita and his performance when yuuichi said to ayu that makoto returned home.)

anyway, i really loved the humour here, and was surprised how KyoAni was bold enough to use the same joke twice in the same episode (but it was really effective )

but not only the humour was good, but we have a lot of cute moments ^^ (awww, nayuki and ayu sleeping together... akkkh, somebody would like to take them home )

anyway... i can't wait for ep12...~~ (as a mai fan, i'm already drooling with the preview...>_>)

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by New/Old

Actually, think of the dance as a ball. Hmm-hmm.

Is the type of ball when the female lead runs away & in the process loses one of her shoes - thats when the all mighty Kuze comes into action to save the day.

Yeah, it'll be good.

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

Is the type of ball when the female lead runs away & in the process loses one of her shoes - thats when the all mighty Kuze comes into action to save the day.

Yeah, it'll be good.

You'll see.

Heh.

[KenOhki'sRage]

I'm giving out some 9s now in order to give 10s out later. And this is the first time I couldn't watch it raw first since the place I get my raws from wasn't letting me. Add to that the first fansub I grabbed (I was desperate!) contained an error and refused to play and I didn't get to watch it till this morning. Sigh.

Well, as for the episode I can't believe the dance is coming up already, they're moving along rather quickly. Added Mai's hachimitsu kuma-san and ponpoko tanuki which means Mai's story is very much under way. Wonder how they'll proceed.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Skane

You'll see.

Heh.

I always wished it would turn out that way in the game.. ;_;