To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Discussion (Archives)

[BlueDo]

Well, gods haven't been introduced yet.
And angels aren't necessarily magic-only.
Also, level 6 might be a lie after all.

[shmaster]

.....Why did everyone think Accelerator died in his fight against Kihara? Sure, he is badly beat up, and out of battery. But he is stil breathing and brain still thinking. I mean, it is when he realized the flaw of his own logic that he gets to awaken.

Anyway, becoming Lv.6 is to achieve the SYSTEM, which is like the science equivalent of La Persona superiore a Dio. I think that is why Accelerator and Kakine are still considered Lv.5, despite they make the other Lv.5s look puny, they are still not good enough to be considered Lv.6 yet.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Magic users have alot to consider; apparently the requirement to cast a spell needs to be very specific, otherwise it won't work. But Magicians can use a variety off spells, and those spells doesn't have to follow physical law at all.

It really depends, some magic have very cheap requirements yet ridiculously powerful. Like Vent's Divine Punishement Formula, that is like, it is so easy to use and so poweful it is ridiculous.

And if you are a Saint... you can simply spam magic non stop. In the fight between kaori and Aqua, the two literally covered their battle fields full of magic formulas and consatntly hijacking each other's formula.

Also, Saints are not the only powerful ones on Magic side. I have no doubt that God's Right Seat can take on Kakine and Accelerator just fine. Accelerator literally have no way of beating Vent, and Fianma's power needs no explanation.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by ellifeedn

Don't forget about the angels, gods, and whatever else there is on that level, which I assume is the magical equivalent to level 6.

I don't know about gods, but the Alister already have his own personal Angel on stand by, something the magic side doesn't quite have yet...

Originally Posted by shmaster

Also, Saints are not the only powerful ones on Magic side. I have no doubt that God's Right Seat can take on Kakine and Accelerator just fine. Accelerator literally have no way of beating Vent, and Fianma's power needs no explanation.

Actually... If you don't mind Could you explain to me what the God's Right Seat powers are ?

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by shmaster

.....Why did everyone think Accelerator died in his fight against Kihara? Sure, he is badly beat up, and out of battery. But he is stil breathing and brain still thinking. I mean, it is when he realized the flaw of his own logic that he gets to awaken.

His not dead yet after that beating? I mean his not almost moving there. If your not moving anymore can you be considered alive? or maybe I read it wrong
What his like touma that should be dead but still alive and well

The god's right seat are all miracle workers for me. And I also don't know the powers of others. The only one I know is vent who has the power of hammering you down with torrents of wind and also I'm not sure about this but if you don't have imagine breaker then your good as dead because you will loose consciousness like those anti skill and judgment that tries to stop her on the gate. And about aqua....... the only thing I know of him without the ascalon is his the MAN OF STEEL! SUPERMAN REBORN! AS A SAINT! terminator on magic side well that's for me about terra and fianna. I have vague idea about terra but its hard to understand with all those hierarchy.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Actually... If you don't mind Could you explain to me what the God's Right Seat powers are ?

Spoiler for Terra of the Front:

Wind magic is her specialty and she use a hammer as a wepaon, her strongest magic is "Divine Punishment Formula" she paralyze over 70% of the academy in less than half an hour.

Divine Punishment Formula applies the logic that no one should bare menace toward got, if so, punishment applies. This magic literally strip people of their consciousness if they ever consider Vent (who substitute herself as the god under the efect of her spell) an enemy. It is one of the cheapest spell in the series, and this spell has absolutely no negative side effect.

Spoiler for Terra of the Left:

He weilds the ability called "Execution of Light". An ability that can switch the priority of the matter. But he can switch only one priority at a time. He use guillotines that are made of weat flour as his weapon. (Wine=god's blood, weat flour=god's flesh). He first launch his guillotines and raise their priority over the enmy's defence, so his attack can always detsroy the target.

Spoiler for Aqua of the Back:

Aqua, is a "different case". He is a "double saint". Saint, like Kaori, are people born with a body similiar to the son of god and thus be able to gain incredible power through Idol Theory. But Aqua, not only has a body that resemble the son of god, but also the Mary the Virgin, thus making him a double saint. He has an ability known as "The Mercy of Holy Mother", thus freeing Aqua from various restrictions, limitations, and curses. Thus he can still use human magic unlike other 3 members in Right Seat of God. So, Aqua, having the raw power of being a double saint on top being a right seat of god, and he can cast whatever magic he feels like.

Its all shmaster and wiki says, Fiamma didn't revealed his powers yet.

[sasuke706]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Spoiler for Terra of the Front:

Wind magic is her specialty and she use a hammer as a wepaon, her strongest magic is "Divine Punishment Formula" she paralyze over 70% of the academy in less than half an hour.

Divine Punishment Formula applies the logic that no one should bare menace toward got, if so, punishment applies. This magic literally strip people of their consciousness if they ever consider Vent (who substitute herself as the god under the efect of her spell) an enemy. It is one of the cheapest spell in the series, and this spell has absolutely no negative side effect.

Spoiler for Terra of the Left:

He weilds the ability called "Execution of Light". An ability that can switch the priority of the matter. But he can switch only one priority at a time. He use guillotines that are made of weat flour as his weapon. (Wine=god's blood, weat flour=god's flesh). He first launch his guillotines and raise their priority over the enmy's defence, so his attack can always detsroy the target.

Spoiler for Aqua of the Back:

Aqua, is a "different case". He is a "double saint". Saint, like Kaori, are people born with a body similiar to the son of god and thus be able to gain incredible power through Idol Theory. But Aqua, not only has a body that resemble the son of god, but also the Mary the Virgin, thus making him a double saint. He has an ability known as "The Mercy of Holy Mother", thus freeing Aqua from various restrictions, limitations, and curses. Thus he can still use human magic unlike other 3 members in Right Seat of God. So, Aqua, having the raw power of being a double saint on top being a right seat of god, and he can cast whatever magic he feels like.

Is there a reason the other three can't use Human magic? And they aren't Saints to boot?

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by sasuke706

Is there a reason the other three can't use Human magic? And they aren't Saints to boot?

They are magicians who had purified their original sin as much as they can and thus gain the powers and body similiar to angels. But because that "original sin"="the fruit of wisdom", they lost the ability to cast human magic.

EDIT: Baka tsuki is translating vol.3 =_=;
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in....28and_More.29


In the website of Kiyortaka Haimura, looks like a second volume of railgun novel is going to be released in th next comiket.

[tsunade666]

I'm not sure for this one but I think that if the author used the a bible reference then using magic is a sin specially that the god's right hand are part of the rome vatican. They are the roman catholics and in the bible magicians and spell casters are consider sinners.

So when they purify them selves they also lost the ability to wield the so called fruit of wisdom. The fruit that's been tempted to be eaten by adam and eve.

But this is only pure guess because even I' am not sure about this

well for my question. While reading vol 14. I find it hard to understand this part

Spoiler for vol14:

I'm not sure if its yoshikawa or yomikawa but its the one with the antiskill. And also I'm not sure too if she's the one talking but the main question is that the god's right seat initiate some kind of war? 2 billion members of them against TOUMA? or is it gakuentoshi and the one in the center is touma? I mean 2 billion its like the number of Catholics around the world or a portion of it. Can someone clarify this? And is it just me but the higher ups are keeping touma's part in the battle with the god's right seat a secret. The battle against vent. I think at the start they are talking about it or is it a news. About the attack before and their is no one mentioning touma. And then the yoshikawa( the anit skill ) said that their is an involvement but I'm not sure too if she said it or its just in her mind. Its hard to understand the pure conversation parts.

thanks in advance

[shmaster]

I should add, the cheapest thing about Divine Punishment Formula is that, you can get you no matter where you are, even if you are on the other side of the Earth. As long as you remotely knows who Vent is, and if you remotely consider her an enemy, you'll lose your consciousness.

[sasuke706]

Originally Posted by shmaster

I should add, the cheapest thing about Divine Punishment Formula is that, you can get you no matter where you are, even if you are on the other side of the Earth. As long as you remotely knows who Vent is, and if you remotely consider her an enemy, you'll lose your consciousness.

Well, while we're going in-depth... Does it have a time limit? Or do people just lay there until they die?

Fiamma's gonna have to do some crazy things to be on par with these guys.

And if you would share, any clue what they're up to? We know Fiamma's traveling, and Aqua is... protecting a princess, going by a cover... What's Vent up to and Terra up to? Especially since I don't know anything about Terra, fight or anything.

[LockeManuel]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

In the website of Kiyortaka Haimura, looks like a second volume of railgun novel is going to be released in th next comiket.

Railgun vol.2?

I visited his site some days ago, but I read he's going to release the second "Toaru Majutsu no Indekkuchu" doujin.

[Plant42]

Originally Posted by LockeManuel

Railgun vol.2?

I visited his site some days ago, but I read he's going to release the second "Toaru Majutsu no Indekkuchu" doujin.

Yeah that's not Railgun, It's a vol.2 of "To aru Majutsu no Indekkuchu".

[Miraluka]

Sorry, thats true but I also read Mikoto Misaka there XD.

Originally Posted by sasuke706

things to be on par with these guys.

And if you would share, any clue what they're up to? We know Fiamma's traveling, and Aqua is... protecting a princess, going by a cover... What's Vent up to and Terra up to? Especially since I don't know anything about Terra, fight or anything.

Spoiler for about these guys:

Vent is heading to Russia too and Terra is dead because he was executed by Aqua.

[cubicjack]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Spoiler for about these guys:

Vent is heading to Russia too and Terra is dead because he was executed by Aqua.

Spoiler for vent:

Vent is in Russia already. She's helping Sasha escape.

[tsunade666]

The god's right seat aren't really all bad. They have their own ideals to uphold and beliefs well except for Fianna. His a puzzle.

[Miraluka]

Now looks like the problem is the leader but I have a feeling that he is not that bad.

I have found these:
神上(La Persona superiore a Dio)

[shmaster]

I personally would argue that Terra and Fianma are inredeemable jerks.

Terra is just a hopeless zealot, that is why Aqua get rid of him.
As for Fianma, he completly doesn't value the life of the other. Even the Pope, who consider the other 3 to be nuts but still tolerable, finds Fianma wayyyy over the line to the point of wondering can Fianma still be called a Christian. Hell, Fianma even used the Holy Right in the fight against the Pope despite he knew the blow would destroy Ventican. Ventican would already be in debris if Pope didn't absorb all the damage on to himself.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by shmaster

I personally would argue that Terra and Fianma are inredeemable jerks.

Terra is just a hopeless zealot, that is why Aqua get rid of him.
As for Fianma, he completly doesn't value the life of the other. Even the Pope, who consider the other 3 to be nuts but still tolerable, finds Fianma wayyyy over the line to the point of wondering can Fianma still be called a Christian. Hell, Fianma even used the Holy Right in the fight against the Pope despite he knew the blow would destroy Ventican. Ventican would already be in debris if Pope didn't absorb all the damage on to himself.

Like many scientists in Academy City, and what the heck! and the pope is still alive after that mess? How? Did he used his old magic robe?

[tsunade666]

His the POPE! its natural for him to have a secret or two just like the whole roman catholic does. No surprise if his even stronger than fianna but this just show that for now fianna will be the toughest one to beat with his incomplete holy right.

Maybe touma is the unholy right.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by shmaster

Ventican would already be in debris if Pope didn't absorb all the damage on to himself.

Spoiler for I couldn't help myself: