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Old 2011-11-17, 05:53   Link #1081
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You still hope that it turns out better as it goes through, but rarely there is a series can recover from an episode like this, plot-wise at least

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Look what I like here is not the intricate and breath-taking storytelling (say Nitro+ or TM), and appreciate the absence of LULZ-plots (Horizon, Mirai Nikki... To aru fits here too). What I appreciate is the excellent chemistry between the characters*, the humour (however low it gets), and the choreography of the action scenes (occurring once per cours in shounen shows instead of once per episode here).

* The characters don't even have to be original to work in an original way... and given the hilarious concept it gives excellent opportunities to explore the cliches... read deconstruct them
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Old 2011-11-17, 07:51   Link #1082
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The eye catch for ep 6 is best one so far<3
Eh, really? Because the best eyecatch so far is this one:


NAKED APRON MATSY AWHOOOOO
(There's a reason why I had to make the resolution small)

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This is one adaptation where I don't really care how unfaithful this anime is to the source material. Unlike with Yumekui Merry, I'm actually entertained.
Quite true. I like what I see so far [read: legs ]. Sure, maybe some stuff was left out or changed, but the way things have gone so far, I can't think of the what-if's. (I've not read the novels)

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The extreme fanboys are pretty crazy through,got this below msg sent in though the reputation system. And i only made like 3 posts here last fortnight, 2 is within this page
It is unfortunate this thread is becoming rampant with those kind of responses. I do hope the mods keep an eye on things here as I quite literally took a leave of absence from this thread during the UmeUme slamming a few pages back. (it was definitely not fun)

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The boots always make me laugh. As far as I can tell, she didn't have them prior to her entrance into the Ben-to wars.

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Absolutely.

But at this point, they're going to run out of girls to put in those Bento boxes.
You know, I brought this up a few days ago. But you know what? I'm going to answer my own question. It's true there's not enough girls to stick into the bento's (still wanting some Brunette), but I on the other hand do not mind if they re-use some of the girls, but with a new twist: IN SWIMSUITS!!!!!

Who's with me!??

Because why not. Ben-to continues the trend of the lucky #7 episode of fanservice goodness:
Spoiler for EPISODE 07:
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Old 2011-11-17, 08:07   Link #1083
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You know, I brought this up a few days ago. But you know what? I'm going to answer my own question. It's true there's not enough girls to stick into the bento's (still wanting some Brunette), but I on the other hand do not mind if they re-use some of the girls, but with a new twist: IN SWIMSUITS!!!!!

Who's with me!??
What about the ones with the fetish for maid uniforms and nurse outfits?

Preview for the next episode looks great. Should get a lot of material for ero gifs
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Old 2011-11-17, 08:54   Link #1084
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What about the ones with the fetish for maid uniforms and nurse outfits?
Let's leave those outfits for the Ben-to Wars surely it would look odd for them to fight in swimsuits (not that I wouldn't want to see that )

And..... The BluRay/DVD for volume 01 has some nice goodies:


Looks like the Eyecatches are set for a physical form
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Old 2011-11-17, 09:57   Link #1085
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Imagine if those eyecatches were placemats...


(they're not, right? That'd be too big to fit in a dvd case)
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Old 2011-11-17, 10:08   Link #1086
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Damn, that a lot of fan service...not that i'm complaning
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Old 2011-11-17, 10:22   Link #1087
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Preview for the next episode looks great. Should get a lot of material for ero gifs
in the meantime...
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Old 2011-11-17, 10:34   Link #1088
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in the meantime...
My fav, the things I could do with that one
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Old 2011-11-17, 17:16   Link #1089
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Hehe, I found this while scouring the internet.

Spoiler for Long gif:


Once again, I love Hana and her sneaky antics XD
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Old 2011-11-17, 21:44   Link #1090
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7 specific, why don't you add "setting in Japan" if you're going to be that general.

Seriously that's just pushing it, there's no way their fanbase would ever clash as they're just too different. You'll have better luck trying to compare Ben-To with Baka-Test.
I may have added that in, but it then will be too obvious that i'm not serious,isn't it?

Still I actually would like to make a survey to see how many % of this show fans like Index through
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In that same episode, Satou beat the crap out of other veteran wolves and actually got his first laurel seal in the third battle. In the recent battle against the Monarch, while he was the final blow, Monarch basically knocked him down with a single blow. It's not as clear cut as you're trying to make out here, the powerlevels.

Things only stop making sense if you don't think about it for a bit and immediately start saying it doesn't make sense. What I'm more worried about not making sense is how the school can allow a club like that to exist or how cops didn't rush to a bloody scene or how people actually want long training episode arcs.

Sen was bleeding over herself and limping coming into the store and after the fight.
Fighting skills does not turn better that way through (by getting serious,understand the rules, etc). The main reasons that he was beaten up during the first several fights were because he showed the lack of reaction against coming threats. That obviously made him (looks) amateur in both street fight and martial arts, and this can't be learn unless you have intense training, exposure to fighting to carve it into your memory.

But then suddenly he can be reflex against any incoming punches and react with precise attacks. If he was so strong at the start, he will see Sen's (or any other wolfs) attacks coming, but simply don't know whether he should react (tried to block before being deal with by a finish blow perhaps). If he's not that strong, he will still got punched up and down, but can deal finish blow more effectively. But in this case, he actually goes from literally getting his ass kicked, to some fancy moves like jump or spin kick, which require great deal of balances and stretches or specific muscle develop

Once again it mostly due to adaptation, i don't think the LN can goes that detail, so the anime director just try to make him look cool with dodging punches and fancy skills
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Look what I like here is not the intricate and breath-taking storytelling (say Nitro+ or TM), and appreciate the absence of LULZ-plots (Horizon, Mirai Nikki... To aru fits here too). What I appreciate is the excellent chemistry between the characters*, the humour (however low it gets), and the choreography of the action scenes (occurring once per cours in shounen shows instead of once per episode here).

* The characters don't even have to be original to work in an original way... and given the hilarious concept it gives excellent opportunities to explore the cliches... read deconstruct them
Can you tell me more specifically which characters' chemistry you appreciated?

To say the truth i still do not fully understand your points. See, the problem with novel success based on characters' chemistry is, it tends to lost with adaptation. Anime tends to cut subtle conversation, movements, facial reactions to save budgets and screen time. And i believe only few anime has been success to portray characters as well as the successful novel.

So if it's not plot, or settings, or the unqiue casts, it's hard for the anime to achieve similar success

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I took it with Grade 3 seriousness after ep1, but is adjusting down to 5 atm
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Old 2011-11-17, 21:52   Link #1091
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I may have added that in, but it then will be too obvious that i'm not serious,isn't it?

Fighting skills does not turn better that way through (by getting serious,understand the rules, etc). The main reasons that he was beaten up during the first several fights were because he showed the lack of reaction against coming threats. That obviously made him (looks) amateur in both street fight and martial arts, and this can't be learn unless you have intense training to carve it into your memory.

But then suddenly he can be reflex against any incoming punches and react with precise attacks. If he was so strong at the start, he will see Sen's (or any other wolfs) attacks coming, but simply don't know whether he should react (tried to block before being deal with by a finish blow perhaps). If he's not that strong, he will still got punched up and down, but can deal finish blow more effectively. But in this case, he actually goes from literally getting his ass kicked, to some fancy moves like jump or spin kick, which require great deal of balances and stretches or specific muscle develop

Once again it mostly due to adaptation, i don't think the LN can goes that detail, so the anime director just try to make him look cool with dodging punches and fancy skills

Can you tell me more specifically which characters' chemistry you appreciated?

To say the truth i still do not fully understand your points. See, the problem with novel success based on characters' chemistry is, it tends to lost with adaptation. Anime tends to cut subtle conversation, movements, facial reactions to save budgets and screen time. And i believe only few anime has been success to portray characters as well as the successful novel.

So if it's not plot, or settings, or the unqiue casts, it's hard for the anime to achieve similar success
I loled reading this serious analysis. In a series where your main power come from your stomach growl(hara no mushi or bugs of stomach) in Japanese, analyzing a character's strength by their reaction time is quite funny. I mean, we all know you grow weaker when you're hungry right? But they said that hunger is their source of power lol.
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Old 2011-11-17, 22:36   Link #1092
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I may have added that in, but it then will be too obvious that i'm not serious,isn't it?

Still I actually would like to make a survey to see how many % of this show fans like Index through
Depends on what you count as 'fans', while I'm watching this show and generally don't have much bone to pick with it- I wouldn't call myself a fan of this series.

P.S - I like Index.

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I loled reading this serious analysis. In a series where your main power come from your stomach growl(hara no mushi or bugs of stomach) in Japanese, analyzing a character's strength by their reaction time is quite funny. I mean, we all know you grow weaker when you're hungry right? But they said that hunger is their source of power lol.
Technically it's one of those 'Last Burst of Fire' thing, and I've seen a crazy hungry man attack me (a good friend of mine, funny guy), but it's not meant to be used for a serious prolong fight
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Old 2011-11-18, 05:45   Link #1093
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Once again, I love Hana and her sneaky antics XD
I've been laughing at her for weeks with my friends @ her being a total freaking ninja.
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Old 2011-11-18, 07:38   Link #1094
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Fighting skills does not turn better that way through (by getting serious,understand the rules, etc)....
I've trained under professional coaches and even I can be taken by surprise when I'm thinking far too much and not paying attention like during moments that I'm teaching over-aggressive newbies. We aren't talking about a super grandmaster here that has ingrained in him several decades of whatever where even if they're 80 years old, they can knock you down easily with just a walking stick. It's not even a pro fighter who has mastered the arts for decades, we're just talking about a guy who got trained by his dad. The most he has is a decade.

Besides, even taking the Satou is serious from the beginning argument, Sen and the Wizard are clearly on another level even against other veteran wolves in terms of talent, so you shouldn't use them as a comparison for the others that Satou can defeat. Whatever Sen and the Wizard can do to Satou, even if they're taking it easy, everyone else doesn't have the same level of ability to replicate. (And this should be common sense in shonen type battles that aren't exactly 1:1 with real life situations.)

You shouldn't really be taking this even seriously, but there are explanations for why he's like that.
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Old 2011-11-18, 08:20   Link #1095
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Fighting skills does not turn better that way through (by getting serious,understand the rules, etc). The main reasons that he was beaten up during the first several fights were because he showed the lack of reaction against coming threats. That obviously made him (looks) amateur in both street fight and martial arts, and this can't be learn unless you have intense training, exposure to fighting to carve it into your memory.

But then suddenly he can be reflex against any incoming punches and react with precise attacks. If he was so strong at the start, he will see Sen's (or any other wolfs) attacks coming, but simply don't know whether he should react (tried to block before being deal with by a finish blow perhaps). If he's not that strong, he will still got punched up and down, but can deal finish blow more effectively. But in this case, he actually goes from literally getting his ass kicked, to some fancy moves like jump or spin kick, which require great deal of balances and stretches or specific muscle develop

Once again it mostly due to adaptation, i don't think the LN can goes that detail, so the anime director just try to make him look cool with dodging punches and fancy skills
The main "weakness" of Sato would be that he has little real experience in fighting. Unlike many martial artists who have formed an instinct of incoming attacks through constant use, Sato was more of a "knowledgeable and unapplicable" person before he started joining the fight. This is more of a combination of inexperience, naivety, and simple unpreparedness.


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I loled reading this serious analysis. In a series where your main power come from your stomach growl(hara no mushi or bugs of stomach) in Japanese, analyzing a character's strength by their reaction time is quite funny. I mean, we all know you grow weaker when you're hungry right? But they said that hunger is their source of power lol.
Mind over matter
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Old 2011-11-18, 11:45   Link #1096
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Just this one particular episode. Episodes 1-5 were quite good focusing more on the comedy and the fanservice. Fights have godly animation. With Ume returning this week the ratings will most likely go up again.
oh crap, hell no....just when it was getting good. give me the twins already!
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Old 2011-11-18, 13:57   Link #1097
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oh crap, hell no....just when it was getting good. give me the twins already!
Those twins are full of win, btw. Also, there is no Ume in the preview so...
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Old 2011-11-18, 14:02   Link #1098
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Twins in anime are always good...at least, they're always good in the animes i've seen :P
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Episode 07 is out!!

- The twins appear.
- Monarch's friend and Satou are giving homolust vibes there .
- Brunette's wardrobe malfuncion! te we don't get to see her face .
- Matsuba is officially a MILF.
- The attack of the pervert Satou, lol.
- Censoring in my Ben-to? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUARGH!!!!
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Episode 07 is out!!

- Censoring in my Ben-to? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUARGH!!!!

What!? Censoring!? In Ben-To!?

This is not acceptable!
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