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Old 2013-05-15, 03:56   Link #3061
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SO just to be clear, Juha Bach says MY SON, because his the forefather, OR because his the true Father of Ishida? I'm going for the former rather than the latter.
Yes, the former. Same reason he also called Ichigo "son" in Ichigo's "Special Deleted Scene" flashback to his defeat at Bach's hands, earlier this chapter.
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Old 2013-05-15, 04:01   Link #3062
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Yeah, I think he means it as a father to all quincies rather then literal.

Good chapter, it had a lot of good info. A King of quincies who created them all and addressed the 1k years he was missing. People might say he will betray the king, but for all we know him and his father might consider it a great honor for her to have helped bring the king back via her death.

but from a story standpoint it seems they will team up and end the terror.
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Old 2013-05-15, 04:04   Link #3063
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Well now Ishida is scheming revenge for the death of his mother now mmm
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Old 2013-05-15, 04:38   Link #3064
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the chapter was subpar and as for misaki there's a huge flaw.
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Old 2013-05-15, 04:53   Link #3065
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So the fight for Orihime is about to come to pass...j/k

Shouldn't Ichigo be able to curbstomp Ishida if they do have to fight? Sure, I know Kubo tried to make it more possible with Ichigo unable to get a new zanpakuto but he's still a melting pot of powers...
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Old 2013-05-15, 05:20   Link #3066
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the chapter was subpar and as for misaki there's a huge flaw.
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Maybe her soul was stained by the remnant of White's power, thus making her losing her pure-blood status?
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Old 2013-05-15, 06:02   Link #3067
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So the fight for Orihime is about to come to pass...j/k

Shouldn't Ichigo be able to curbstomp Ishida if they do have to fight? Sure, I know Kubo tried to make it more possible with Ichigo unable to get a new zanpakuto but he's still a melting pot of powers...
The answer to that is easy: Uryuu is gonna get trained. Or blessed by the king or hogyoku'd or have some sort of latent power in him awakened, as if he had any left to be awakened. If not then Uryuu's gonna get stomped, in seconds.
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Old 2013-05-15, 06:08   Link #3068
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"Power vanishing completely at a convenient moment"

The patented twist of Kubo
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Old 2013-05-15, 06:59   Link #3069
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Haha ishida joined the Quincy nazzis.
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Old 2013-05-15, 07:01   Link #3070
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"Power vanishing completely at a convenient moment"

The patented twist of Kubo
Kubo could write in some BS quincy power that completely shuts off all Shinigami and hollow powers for ~30 seconds or so while firing a hundred thousand light arrows. Oh and all only the king & his top 5 Subordinates can use it. Thereby making the king Aizen-level powerful except with less plans and no Hogyoukou, for now anyway. That's one way the "twist"(I think more people would be surprised if it didn't happen) could happen.
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Old 2013-05-15, 07:16   Link #3071
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Haha ishida joined the Quincy nazzis.
You sure about that? He was obviously lied to and not told who killed his mother. Let's also not rule out the possibility of ishida planning ahead.
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Old 2013-05-15, 07:48   Link #3072
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Kubo could write in some BS quincy power that completely shuts off all Shinigami and hollow powers for ~30 seconds or so while firing a hundred thousand light arrows. Oh and all only the king & his top 5 Subordinates can use it. Thereby making the king Aizen-level powerful except with less plans and no Hogyoukou, for now anyway. That's one way the "twist"(I think more people would be surprised if it didn't happen) could happen.
They already have something like that. It's called "Stealing bankais without the entire zanpakuto."
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Old 2013-05-15, 08:20   Link #3073
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You sure about that? He was obviously lied to and not told who killed his mother. Let's also not rule out the possibility of ishida planning ahead.
I know, it's the obvious and boring outcome that will probably have about as much impact as Orihime in hueco mundo, since Ichigo will eventually steamroll everything with brute force when he shows up after everyone else is beaten.

For now I'm just hoping that Ishida really did lose his marbles.
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Old 2013-05-15, 08:20   Link #3074
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As much as I would love Ishida joining the enemy and fighting Ichigo, I just know Kubo won't let that happen. Ishida is joining them and will probably betray them when the time is right.
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Old 2013-05-15, 08:22   Link #3075
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They already have something like that. It's called "Stealing bankais without the entire zanpakuto."
Hm well, Good luck Ichigo then.
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Old 2013-05-15, 08:26   Link #3076
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Btw, did Isshin just say that he could sense Masaki was far more powerful than grand fisher, yet Juha stole her powers at the exact moment when GF attacked? Good timing?
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Old 2013-05-15, 08:41   Link #3077
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I know, it's the obvious and boring outcome that will probably have about as much impact as Orihime in hueco mundo, since Ichigo will eventually steamroll everything with brute force when he shows up after everyone else is beaten.

For now I'm just hoping that Ishida really did lose his marbles.
It would be amusing if they put Ishida into the "damsel in distress" role of a rescue arc

But I think he's going to be more of a fake/temporary follower of Bach than a prisoner.
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Old 2013-05-15, 08:43   Link #3078
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Btw, did Isshin just say that he could sense Masaki was far more powerful than grand fisher, yet Juha stole her powers at the exact moment when GF attacked? Good timing?
no it called kubo timing
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Old 2013-05-15, 08:51   Link #3079
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Surely, Juuha Bach would know Ishida is born of Uryu and a non-pure Quincy, making him 'non-pure' himself, though that would be expecting Kubo to actually care about consistency.
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Old 2013-05-15, 09:29   Link #3080
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@ImperialFlameGod8190: I don't think Bach knew every Quincy he stole the power from personally. So he shouldn't really know with whom she was married or who she was in the first place.
This is bleach ... main bad guy knows everything ... just like how he knew about Ichigo so he must've been randomly keeping tabs on his mother
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