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Old 2013-07-04, 13:26   Link #61
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Bwahaahah, Ussop, don't you know lying gets you into bad situations?

Love his face at the end
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Old 2013-07-04, 13:31   Link #62
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Why the hell didn't Law just lie to the admiral?

I mean, he's just been suuuper deceived by Doflamingo, and he's a damn pirate, should've just said "Sure, the Straw Hats are my subordinates"...
You seem to forget Laws original plan. It is not defeat Doflamingo but to destroy the factory. Law does not care for CC or Doflamingo or the Admiral. He wants to take down an Emperor and the first thing he has to do for it is to destroy the Factory. Laws mind told you the reason why he didn’t lie. If he lied he still would have to face Doflamingo but the Admiral would go after the straw hats on Dressrosa and this is exactly what he doesn’t want. So he is basically buying time for the strawhats to destroy the factory. You shouldn’t forget that Law can teleport himself. So he probably can get out from there without much of a problem.
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Old 2013-07-04, 18:17   Link #63
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For the first time ever, we see Doflamingo genuinely concerned in battle. And his string ability is becoming all the more apparent. Fujitora's ability is most likely a paramecia, so as said already by Grey, it'd be nice if Ryokugyuu has a zoan ability for the sake of diversity. We need to see more zoan users in general.

Ussop's lies were gold in this chapter. Never change Ussop; that's why you're awesome .
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Old 2013-07-04, 18:23   Link #64
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One thing is certain Admiral Akainu should be deformed after the fight with Aokiji...
Aokiji lost the fight and he looks fine. So why would Akainu look worst then Aokiji.
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Old 2013-07-04, 18:33   Link #65
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^ Aokiji lost his left leg (he uses an ice prosthetic now) and his right side (from his neck down to his hand) got badly burned. So it's very likely that Akainu also suffered some permanent damage (probably not as bad as Aokiji did though).
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Old 2013-07-04, 19:02   Link #66
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I don't see why there wasn't a few chapters for Aokiji vs Akainu fight. Would have been good to see two Admerals fight each other. Instead of just saying they fought, their battle ground ended up like this and this person won.
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Old 2013-07-04, 19:29   Link #67
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^Well, we didn't really need to see their fight. We're already familiar with their abilities, after all. And the important thing to remember is that it was the results of the fight that mattered. Maybe we'll get a flashback that shows their fight in detail, but we already knew for a long time that the both of them were monstrously powerful individuals.



Besides, now we gotta focus on the new blood! And so far, Fujitora most definitely has proven that he has the kind of power worthy of an admiral. Really makes me look forward to Ryokugyuu's eventual appearance even more.....



And one more thing: I'm wondering if Isshou had a past with Sakazuki prior to joining the marines? I'm bringing this up because last chapter Fuji referred to him as "Saka-san", which sounds like a pretty casual way to refer to his superior, IMO. Maybe both of the new admirals already had experience in law enforcement/military affairs before the skip (like as bounty hunters, police officers, or commanders in a country's private military, etc.)....?
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Old 2013-07-04, 20:06   Link #68
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Jinbei and Ace fought for multiple days... Aokiji and Akainu fought for multiple days... Luffy, I hope it is your turn soon!
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Old 2013-07-04, 22:57   Link #69
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why I always remember Dalton everytime words Green and Bull appear

well he is a king, ate Bison DF not exactly Bull, and very less likely to become an Admiral though

probably...
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Old 2013-07-05, 01:35   Link #70
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Something tells me there could be another Poneglyph on this island. Seems to be linked to Sypiea.

Also can Oda please move on from Caribou? His lame ass cover stories are getting pretty boring. Maybe add some on Jinbei or Smoker.
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Old 2013-07-05, 01:37   Link #71
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We didn't see a meteor at the casino, that's correct. But it doesn't necessarily mean that there was no meteor. We only saw the result: A huge hole. Similar to the situation now. It could be possible, that the casino was hit by a meteor and we just didn't see it, because everyone was inside and didn't see it coming.


Uh... I'm pretty sure that if a meteor hit the casino, it would have been noticed. I mean, even a small one would have undoubtedly left a big honking hole in the roof, wouldn't you think?



Anyway, I'm about 99.9% certain that Fujitora's power is gravity-based. When he used his power at the casino, one of the thugs even commented on how he felt he was being crushed by a heavy pressure. And considering how we saw nothing tangible crushing the thugs, I think we can rule out an invisible meteor or whatever hitting the casino.




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IMHO this doesn't make sense. Why should the Admiral go after the Straw Hats.
He explicitly told Law, that everything is fine if the Straw Hats were his subordinatos. So if Law lied, the SH were safe as well.


It was already explained that Law was buying some time. If Law lied, Fujitora would have eventually found out the truth anyway, and would make it priority #1 to hunt down all of the allied pirates. And I think it would be a wee bit difficult to carry out the factory destruction mission when you've got an admiral on your tail.....
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Old 2013-07-05, 06:17   Link #72
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just say, please go read the other 712 chapters of One Piece to find out why Luffy can't swim.
I know about the dumb curse that makes no sense at all.He doesn't even need to swim actually,just float.He breathes he can float.How do think the boat works.He's made out of rubber,that would make him an excellent life raft.
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Old 2013-07-05, 07:04   Link #73
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I know about the dumb curse that makes no sense at all.He doesn't even need to swim actually,just float.He breathes he can float.How do think the boat works.He's made out of rubber,that would make him an excellent life raft.
Sense?
As in common sense?
There is none. Besides even if it was more grounded in reality "curses" (more like side effects) are common in pirate stories and their myths. Stories about the Kraken, Davy Jones and the flying Dutchman are filled with them.

Also as of yet we do not know the origins of the devil fruits nor their exact workings. So it's a bit stupid to call something dumb without knowing all there is to it.

Any way the main reason Luffy can't just float is because the sea water saps away his strength. Thus the moment he touches water he slowly loses his strength to sustain his rubber body and thus deflates. (If someone would put a hose in him and keeps pumping air into his body he should technically be able to stay afloat).

Then there's the unexplained hammer effect (not being able to swim). Which might tie in with the devils inside devil fruit users (devils disliking water and sealing anything related to swimming or floating). However that's just speculating on what little we know.

So in universe with what we know it makes perfect sense for Luffy not being able to swim or float


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The new translation somewhat redeems Fujitora. I hope he´ll make a full turn around before the end of the arc.
I wonder how Usopp´s lie is going to turn out... Will he actually proof himself a hero in their eyes or is he in for a world of pain.
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Old 2013-07-05, 11:00   Link #74
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The new translation somewhat redeems Fujitora. I hope he´ll make a full turn around before the end of the arc.
I wonder how Usopp´s lie is going to turn out... Will he actually proof himself a hero in their eyes or is he in for a world of pain.
Well seeing how Norland was able to help them out and has been known to lie. I don't see why Usopp wouldn't do then same. All he has too do is stand in the right place at the right time. Besides they are very trust worthy and really believe Usopp. Sure he is not the strongest but he does know how to give prep talks and loyal to his crew. Soo if the little people are in need of a prep talk or would be seen that they where about to die Usopp is clearly going to save them. Which would in their eyes further fuel their trust in him
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Old 2013-07-05, 11:09   Link #75
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Well seeing how Norland was able to help them out and has been known to lie. I don't see why Usopp wouldn't do then same. All he has too do is stand in the right place at the right time. Besides they are very trust worthy and really believe Usopp. Sure he is not the strongest but he does know how to give prep talks and loyal to his crew. Soo if the little people are in need of a prep talk or would be seen that they where about to die Usopp is clearly going to save them. Which would in their eyes further fuel their trust in him
Yeah I guess, he might just stick to his lie.
It might even turn out to be his great new world debut (similar to the Mr 4 fight). Though that nearly did him in.... so I don't know if he really goes that far so soon
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Old 2013-07-05, 12:50   Link #76
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What a chapter.

A world wide conscription is a really good idea, I'm sure the other admiral is a beast as well. It's nice to see how every single group has found their own way to get to the factory. Similar to how Law, DD and Fujitori each have their own way to avoid the meteor that was coming crashing at them.

Fujitori's comment that he wanted to test out his powers raised an eye brow. He is trained to fight, perhaps he has never been against ridiculously strong opponents and never had to use his DF power to that extreme.

Usopp's core character came out strong and it is perfect. Wonder if there is something for Robin to discover on, maybe a poneglyph the tontatta are protecting..

Was franky confused for a toy?!? :P

I wonder which members of the DD family are attacking the strawhat ship..
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Old 2013-07-05, 16:46   Link #77
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I wonder if Green Bull will be first admiral without a devil fruit ability. The fact that he's called Bull suggests that he's a big man, probably with a lot of muscles, who likes to get into people's faces during battle. To further support this concept, Oda might chose to make him a Rokushiki and armament Haki master. With sufficient power in those areas and just his general physical prowess alone, he may be able to keep up with the other admirals even without a devil fruit.

On the other hand, Vergo was supposed to be very adept in armament Haki, and look where it got him. In addition, having an admiral without a df would be a combo breaker, though certainly not a bad one in my opinion. But first we have to see if my initial suspection of him being a big bulky guy is right in the first place.
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Old 2013-07-05, 19:40   Link #78
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Yeah I guess, he might just stick to his lie.
It might even turn out to be his great new world debut (similar to the Mr 4 fight). Though that nearly did him in.... so I don't know if he really goes that far so soon
I do hope he gets a little statue that goes next to Norland one. Too bad Norland has died as I would love to see how Usopp and him would be if they both met. It could be comedy gold.

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I wonder if Green Bull will be first admiral without a devil fruit ability. The fact that he's called Bull suggests that he's a big man, probably with a lot of muscles, who likes to get into people's faces during battle. To further support this concept, Oda might chose to make him a Rokushiki and armament Haki master. With sufficient power in those areas and just his general physical prowess alone, he may be able to keep up with the other admirals even without a devil fruit.
Well Gerp has been offered the posistion of Admiral before and he out right said no to it. And we all know how strong he is. Plus he does have Haki. Even if he has aged he is strong never the less. Soo Green Bull could be someone that Gerp knows and recommend him to the marines after they offered him the place again. TBH I would have liked if Green Bull is women. What if it was really the old granma that has been shown in the side storys :O that would be one hell of a twist.
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Old 2013-07-05, 23:55   Link #79
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After reading this chapter, here's just a couple of thoughts, mostly concerning Fujitora and Dofla:

- It sounds like Fujitora was a powerful man who simply got pulled into the marines, courtesy of conscription. It also sounds like he just recently acquired his DF ability, based on him saying he was testing it out. My personal theory is that in order to really become an admiral or above, you need some sort of DF ability... however, until we know what Green Bull can do, that's just a theory

-it's all but confirmed that Dofla has some sort of string power... I believe I first suspected it back at Jaya. The only question, much like Fujitora, is what's the extent of the ability

Other comments: I just have a terrible feeling that Sanji is going to end up heartbroken at the end of this arc... outside of Ace, usually just nameless mooks are killed off on screen in battle, but I suspect that Violet may become a named character that also dies (I just get this tragic vibe with her and Sanji's relationship). And the toy factory... well, we knew it as going to be a major part of this arc, but looks like destroying it is going to take more than originally thought. And with Usopp's lies slowly becoming real... well, he has to still get stronger before he becomes quite worthy of any form of Haki, IMO (despite coby getting Haki and still not being able to face against Luffy, though I understand that post-timeskip, Coby's levelled up quite a bit himself)
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Old 2013-07-06, 00:49   Link #80
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I wonder if Green Bull will be first admiral without a devil fruit ability. The fact that he's called Bull suggests that he's a big man, probably with a lot of muscles, who likes to get into people's faces during battle. To further support this concept, Oda might chose to make him a Rokushiki and armament Haki master. With sufficient power in those areas and just his general physical prowess alone, he may be able to keep up with the other admirals even without a devil fruit.

On the other hand, Vergo was supposed to be very adept in armament Haki, and look where it got him. In addition, having an admiral without a df would be a combo breaker, though certainly not a bad one in my opinion. But first we have to see if my initial suspection of him being a big bulky guy is right in the first place.
Green Bull to be a rare Zoan, Calling it now.
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