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Old 2013-09-30, 14:27   Link #61
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how strong is dofla? admiral level? he shook off kuzan's ice like it's nothing, took care of smoker easily, seem to handle fujitora's attack too, and he can beat law who is a shichibukai...

if luffy beat dofla does that mean he's stronger than law and on par with admiral?
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Old 2013-09-30, 15:38   Link #62
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Reading this scentence, I thought it may be funny to have a character with a 'random random' fruit, which has a different power with each use and not even the user knows what will happen next.

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You know, that possibility came to my mind...What if he has some kind of Jinx/Curse/Karma based ability? Maybe it was pure devil fruit's targeted terrible luck that brought a meteor on FlamingoLaw,
some very unlucky weird but intented gravity anomaly took down those goons to auto-protect its master and maybe a long shot...some twisted good luck charm protected him from his own meteor?
You cant even eliminate the craziest possibility when it comes to One Piece
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Old 2013-09-30, 16:01   Link #63
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how strong is dofla? admiral level? he shook off kuzan's ice like it's nothing, took care of smoker easily, seem to handle fujitora's attack too, and he can beat law who is a shichibukai...

if luffy beat dofla does that mean he's stronger than law and on par with admiral?
A Kuzan that casually froze Doflamingo from a distance (yes, this makes a difference) while having his hands in his pockets. The latter was also shown panting after breaking out. That scene clearly portrayed Doflamingo as inferior to Kuzan. He's very strong no doubt, but he's not equal/on par with the admirals.

This is the dilemma that people are speculating on. Luffy hasn't shown off his full capabilities, so his true strength is still unknown. Can he defeat Doflamingo by himself legitimately? That's the real question. It can be argued that Law's case was unfair since he had to fight Doflamingo and Fujitora together, and that's a bit too much for anyone to handle on their own.
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Old 2013-09-30, 17:20   Link #64
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A Kuzan that casually froze Doflamingo from a distance (yes, this makes a difference) while having his hands in his pockets. The latter was also shown panting after breaking out. That scene clearly portrayed Doflamingo as inferior to Kuzan. He's very strong no doubt, but he's not equal/on par with the admirals.

This is the dilemma that people are speculating on. Luffy hasn't shown off his full capabilities, so his true strength is still unknown. Can he defeat Doflamingo by himself legitimately? That's the real question. It can be argued that Law's case was unfair since he had to fight Doflamingo and Fujitora together, and that's a bit too much for anyone to handle on their own.
I would even further argue that one thing Law does not have is Luffy's tenacity and ability to overcome an opponent that is stronger than he is (well also Luffy's luck). I know personally I would be very disappointed if Luffy did not struggle and go all out, even beyond his limits to beat Dofla after he's been hyped as a villain for so long.
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Old 2013-09-30, 21:43   Link #65
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Well, I think it's clear that the officers have some significance due to them having had a hand in overthrowing the Riku royal family. I strongly doubt any of them are past characters, though. Still, my point was that I found it very interesting that the lackey characters are getting such a gradual level of build-up. That's something you'd expect from the big bads themselves, not so much their servants.....
I was referring to a huge significance in terms of One piece plot as a whole. An example would be Dragon, Garp, Roger, ... compared to mainly arc related significance.


An example: If robin would stay an enemy, get defeated to not be heard from again, then she would definitely have a significance to the arc plot but not the plot as a whole.
All i meant with what i said was that maybe Oda has ( his own) a plot related reason or maybe we already know the character.

Who knows maybe we get a Strawhat even from Dofla's group.
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Old 2013-10-01, 01:11   Link #66
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I was referring to a huge significance in terms of One piece plot as a whole. An example would be Dragon, Garp, Roger, ... compared to mainly arc related significance.


Well in that case, I'm REALLY doubting that. I don't see these guys getting much focus outside of the current arc unless it's through a cover ministory or something.



But in the meantime, new thread!
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Old 2013-10-03, 02:38   Link #67
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As for Captain of his own crew argument, well Franky had a whole bunch of people following him too and didn't stop him (and only him) to join the crew. We don't even know how big Cavendish's crew is. It could be like 2 people for all we know. But since Franky did join, there is always a chance that both Cavendish and Law ( less of a chance maybe) to join the strawhats.
I think the pirate distinction matters here. Franky wasn't a pirate. Ussop Pirates were pretend and he hadn't been to sea.

I don't think Oda would have one pirate crew join another so easily when One piece has written so that the protagonists take the bonds between their crew mates seriously. Luffy shows disdain for pirates which do not treat their crew mates respect or take being a pirate seriously. At the end of the day even if luffy extended an offer I think it would be refused (ace declined because he was part of the white beard pirates).

I've said before usually crew members back story matter to the arc and they usually all have some individual goal that they want to accomplish that is best accomplished by joining the crew. Those that were offered and refused failed this test. Its almost like Wizard of Oz in that sense. I'm more curious about violet. Why did she betray don quixote. I don't think the case can be made for her yet.
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