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Old 2016-01-28, 15:10   Link #421
SPARTAN 119
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Just finished the episode, and I'm glad Boku Dake/Erased is up to its usual standards of greatness.

This ep was yet another emotional roller-coaster, starting out with the scene of Satoru standing up to Kayo's mom with his mother's help, followed by most of the episode filled with Satoru x Kayo adorableness, and ending with that cliffhanger ending that is leaving me impatient for the next episode. Please be okay, Kayo!

That said, I always did get the feeling that Satoru was forgetting something about Kayo surviving X-Day. Yes, his actions will effect the changed future, but if he can change his actions, so can the killer... If Kayo was a target of opportunity, that may have been enough, but if the killer was targeting, I doubt this will be the last time Satoru will have to take on the killer.
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Old 2016-01-28, 15:15   Link #422
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Where has this episode stopped, Manga-wise?
I feel I need to go spoil myself with the Manga right away.
By the way... I'm still trembling... Dear goodness!!!
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Old 2016-01-28, 15:24   Link #423
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That was so sweet. I think it was a good thing they took their time to focus on their growing relationship.

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The episode ended exactly where volume 2 ended.
It will be total 8 volumes. (7 published)
Not sure why everyone is thinking the manga will end in March. AFAIK it was only announced the anime will have the same ending, but not that the manga is ending any time soon.
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Old 2016-01-28, 15:33   Link #424
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So Satoru is doing his best to prevent Kayo from being alone and is preventing her death in the process... or is he? Satoru isn't making big changes, his changes are only delaying the kidnapping and subsequent murder, he isn't stopping anything. He's unintentionally doing a lot of things which he has done already – if he didn't repeat anything, then the changes would have been considered big enough. "Day X" went by without Kayo ded and they even spent the next day safely, but "Day X" has gone ahead a few days and if Satoru doesn't do anything ASAP, "Day X" might be that very day.

This neko is getting super duper interesting right now. I wonder what would happen if Satoru fails. Will he go back to the present or will he rewind again order will he stay in that time-line and live those years again? Can't wait to see what Satoru does in this situation – Kayo being absent is certainly not a good sign.
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Old 2016-01-28, 15:40   Link #425
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Again, thinking and speaking at the same time lol, I'm wondering if that is a effect of the time travel?

I was starting to think Kayo was killed by her mother or BF and that it was a coincidence that it aligned with the serial killer, but now I dunno. It seems hes still having memory issues and its making me wonder that the changes he is making is also effecting his memory or time really does ride on tracks and there is nothing to be done

One more thing, he knows where her body is found, which means he may be able to make it in time to save her life
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Old 2016-01-28, 15:45   Link #426
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That was so sweet. I think it was a good thing they took their time to focus on their growing relationship.



Not sure why everyone is thinking the manga will end in March. AFAIK it was only announced the anime will have the same ending, but not that the manga is ending any time soon.
Because
1. The manga is at the climax. The final confrontation has started, and two more chapters is exactly enough for an end.
2. The manga is the source, and likelihood of adaptations spoiling the end of source is heavily unfavorable and generally avoided.
ESPECIALLY for a mystery story.

Timing source material to end at the same time as anime is common
FMA:B, Tora dora, Shigatsu wa kimi no uso, etc.
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Old 2016-01-28, 15:46   Link #427
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Are we looking at this incorrectly? We're assuming that Satoru was sent back to prevent the murders of the children. If that was the case, then why wasn't he sent back sooner? I think it's not that he is supposed to prevent the murders of the children, but that he is supposed to prevent the murder of his mother. The murder of his mother is what sent him back. Although now, the question becomes why he was sent back so far in the past. Maybe the purpose is to capture the culprit and not necessarily save the victims.

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The last line of the episode had Satoru say that the last promise between Kayo and himself was never fulfilled. I think we can safely assume that Kayo did not make it.

As of now, we know that the incident happened between the time that Satoru dropped her off the previous night and the time that class started the following morning. The next thing to determine is whether it happened inside her home or outside. If outside, then it could have happened when she was on her way to school, or it could have happened if she decided to go outside from some reason. If inside her home, then there is either signs of forced entry, or her parents become the main suspect. Then again, if someone she knew (teacher?) made a house visit, then she might have let that person in.

I can't believe there are 8 more episodes of this. That seems like an eternity considering how much was packed in these past 4 episodes.
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Old 2016-01-28, 16:03   Link #428
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I was thinking, every serial killer starts with some event - for example Hannibal Lecter -, thanks to Satoru and what we know from the news seems like Kayo is the "first time" for our serial killer which mean something must happened at that time when Kayo was murdered.

This leads me to think the murderer must be someone around Kayo and Satoru, at first sight it seems like the teacher was one of the suspects but now it is hard to think that since the most obvious answer is inside Kayo's family - I never see another adult around them, and Mr.Nice guy wasn't even close to Kayo and Satoru -. That being said, the murderer must be the mother or her boyfriend (is this guy the biological father of Kayo?).
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Old 2016-01-28, 16:03   Link #429
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Are we looking at this incorrectly? We're assuming that Satoru was sent back to prevent the murders of the children. If that was the case, then why wasn't he sent back sooner? I think it's not that he is supposed to prevent the murders of the children, but that he is supposed to prevent the murder of his mother. The murder of his mother is what sent him back. Although now, the question becomes why he was sent back so far in the past. Maybe the purpose is to capture the culprit and not necessarily save the victims.

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The last line of the episode had Satoru say that the last promise between Kayo and himself was never fulfilled. I think we can safely assume that Kayo did not make it.

Not necessarily- I interpreted that as Satoru speaking in the moment, rather than him narrating from a point in the future. So I think her fate is very much up in the air.
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Old 2016-01-28, 16:06   Link #430
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There is still the hope of him jumping back again.
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Old 2016-01-28, 16:10   Link #431
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Because
1. The manga is at the climax. The final confrontation has started, and two more chapters is exactly enough for an end.
2. The manga is the source, and likelihood of adaptations spoiling the end of source is heavily unfavorable and generally avoided.
ESPECIALLY for a mystery story.

Timing source material to end at the same time as anime is common
FMA:B, Tora dora, Shigatsu wa kimi no uso, etc.
Sure, the manga could end within the next few chapters, but at the same time it could also jump into another arc. Just in case this might be split cour, the second cour could air in summer or even fall, which would give the manga enough time for a final arc and still finish at the same time as the anime.

Of course this is pure speculation and the chances might be low, but I wouldn't say it's totally out of the picture.
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Old 2016-01-28, 16:37   Link #432
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There is still the hope of him jumping back again.
Until divergence of 1% is finally achieved .
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Old 2016-01-28, 16:58   Link #433
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Lol, I knew things were going too well. During the birthday scene I was like "this episode is totally not ending on a happy note".

And I was right.
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Old 2016-01-28, 17:02   Link #434
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The anime has been nailing the emotional moments. Satoru's and Kayo budding friendship is compelling and beautiful to watch.
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Old 2016-01-28, 17:37   Link #435
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So anxious watching this

Probably one of the best shows i can remember watching over the last few years
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Old 2016-01-28, 17:39   Link #436
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Are we looking at this incorrectly? We're assuming that Satoru was sent back to prevent the murders of the children. If that was the case, then why wasn't he sent back sooner? I think it's not that he is supposed to prevent the murders of the children, but that he is supposed to prevent the murder of his mother.
I don't know if the manga elaborates it further but the only two previous cases of revival that were shown started a few seconds before the incidents that needed to be prevented happened, we've never seen the kid getting hit by the van and we've never seen the mysterious man actually taking the little girl in his car and leaving, we can only assume that that's what would have happened if time wasn't rewinded by Revival.

However here Sachiko is quite dead, the time jump also happens quite a lot later, at least a few minutes.

Perhaps it is yet another anomaly (in addition to the fact it threw Satoru back to his childhood), or perhaps the real trigger isn't the murder of Satoru's mother, but something else entirely.
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Old 2016-01-28, 17:40   Link #437
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The worst thing that could happened has happened in this episode. Ending on a cliffhanger! Arrgghh, how am I supposed to last another week?

It's obvious now that Satoru's "missing memory" will be the plot device here. I also wonder what the "he" already wrote in the journal. Should have a big hint to the story.
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Old 2016-01-28, 19:04   Link #438
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Since Satoru knows where Kayo's body was found, I imagine he'll be going there soon. If he does find her broken lifeless body, it could cause him to jump again and get a second chance on changing this future. As thundrakkon says though, saving Kayo might not have anything to do with saving his mother.

I find it unlikely, despite Satoru's comment, that we will not see Kayo alive ever again.
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Old 2016-01-28, 21:36   Link #439
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Actually, it stopped at the exact end of chapter 12, complete with the exact same closing line.

Concerning the matter of suspects and Kayo's abduction/murder, a few things can be surmised at this point: she either wasn't taken from the park or at least wasn't taken from there this time around. Satoru dropped her off at home and then the next day she was gone; this suggests that she was somehow abducted from either her home or some area around her home. In order for her to be abducted from an apartment complex without risk of someone noticing, either she was somehow rendered unconscious or she new the person and trusted him enough to go quietly. Additionally, as others seem to have noted, the fact that Kayo was still the first targeted despite the efforts to stop the abduction does seem to suggest that Kayo was chosen to be the first victim. My guess would be that this is for at least one of multiple reasons:
1: The killer'd dedicated a greater amount of time to her than the later targets, so he doesn't want to let the effort go to waste if he felt he had any chance of success.
2: Kayo's an exceptional fit to his "type". He doesn't want to let such choice prey escape if he feels there's any chance of success.
3: His plans had always included methods that Satoru's efforts couldn't prevent. Since his method of getting her alone involved a time or situation that Satoru couldn't stop, the most he could do was delay it by changing the day-to-day situation.
4: He felt that any other initial victim would have a much more flimsy connection to Jun, hurting his ability to set up his scapegoat. Thus, the increased weight of suspicion she'd put on Jun outweighed the risks.

Additionally, a small speculation concerning the money incident from before: if the teacher is the kidnapper, perhaps he framed Kayo himself? If he's in any way interested in her because she's a loner, he might have been upset by the way she'd been coming out of her shell and grown less isolated. Setting her up and then reprimanding the students may have served to make her feel a little more isolated again while simultaneously making himself look like an ally who'll stand up to defend her. Don't know if this is the case and I'm not even sure if I believe it to be, but it's a possibility. I rather doubt now that that other girl did it though.
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Old 2016-01-28, 21:54   Link #440
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The show seems really intent on framing the teacher as a shady person. I mean we see a lot of the shots he is in always in the shadow of something. Especially this scene here screams that he cannot be trusted.

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You never see this kind of framing for any of the other characters, even Kenya who has been meeting with the teacher doesn't get this kind of foreshadowing.
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