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Old 2017-08-06, 03:47   Link #1
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What the core audience of anime really want

(This post is by no means sarcastic)

One thing that I have heard more than one person complained is that anime nowaday pander to its core audience (otaku) too much, instead of trying to broaden the scope.

But what does the core audience of anime actually want? I have yet to see anyone trying to create a comprehensive list on this matter, and there are only some scattered article (like this one about the isekai genre) which talk about mass appeal.

(If you frequent platforms such as forums and 4chan like me, you will find it kind of strange that the fandom seem to always demand either the most well-executed or the bottom of the barrel.)

Anyone here has any idea about my question?
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Old 2017-08-08, 06:14   Link #2
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If you talk about Japanese fans, sales numbers make it pretty easy to see which shows are popular (daytime / family shows excluded). Shows that sell well are almost always aimed at either male or female fans and have an attractive cast (mostly based on certain popular archetypes) that is supposed to be very appealing. Virtually all of the top-selling shows prominently promote characters with a very strong and usually artificial romantic/sexual appeal (see: Love Live, Free!, Monogatari series, Utapri, Yuri on ICE!!!), i.e. "waifu" / "husbando" material. That seems to be an essential component of well-selling shows or franchise. Of course this is not the only factor. But it's the most obvious one.

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Old 2017-08-08, 10:29   Link #3
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Miyazaki solved this decades ago.
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Old 2017-08-15, 14:20   Link #4
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This is nothing new. It is just what the fans want has changed over time.

Back in the 1980s, for example, otaku often gravitated to works like Gundam, Ideon, and Macross. When the market became oversaturated with mecha and science-fiction, things gradually changed until Evangelion hit the scene, spawning many imitators, and moe gradually became a thing. Average characters started getting younger, designs focused on characters being even softer and cuter than before, and figurines of cute characters replaced mecha models as the go-to. It was a new generation in the late 1990s and 2000s.

During the 2000s fans seemed to want a lot of moe stuff, the "cute high school" or "cute middle school girls doing cute things" show. Haruhi Suzumiya and K-On! were sort of the apotheosis of this trend. The 2010s seem to be saturated with light novel adaptations of the isekai persuasion or the "magical high school" category.

The market has always focused on where the demand lies. Demand just changes over time.
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The list or even core audience doesn't exist. It's basically a feeling of things that you woudn't want to be seen in public with so pundits can decry that anime is directed at otaku and cannot see the light. Essentially a big strawman.

This is the essential core of the anime fan that wants to evangelize anime to other people or share it as a legitimate hobby. It's not completely without merit though. If they want anime to grow and become part of the mainstream, that's how it has to be. But not every show desires to be this either. Which is why placing the same standards under an umbrella can be a bad idea.
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