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Old 2007-04-12, 13:42   Link #841
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Hm, haven't had a chance to look at the AFK version just yet (but am eager to do so), but I'm of a mixed mind on that issue. This is all strictly uber-IMHO, but I personally feel that foreign otaku ought to as a matter of course develop a good knowledge of Japanese cuisine...preferably first hand experience, but otherwise from context in manga, anime, and dorama. However, I know that Japanese food can be really, well, foreign to new fans in particular and even daunting or very "alien".

Generally speaking I think in these cases, the people familiar with the food in question will already know what it is, so beyond that, it's a matter of whether the translator wants to simplify to keep the flow, add liner notes (IMHO preferably after the program so as to not clutter text over the animation), or stick to the literal original "untranslated" names and leave it to the fans to look up the stuff they don't know on their own (wikipedia is your friend!). I think each approach has its own merit, really.
Even with the food names that were translated I was at a loss as to what they are. Unless I see a picture of the food or it shows up a lot in anime in general, I'll just know that the name's familiar and not know what they really are. As far as the humor during the food part, I thought it was amusing just how they were talking about food for so long. It's something like what I'd do with my friends. My sister, though, kept looking at her watch.
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Old 2007-04-12, 13:42   Link #842
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Eh, I always thought NANA was josei....
That's how it feels to me, too, but the manga uses furigana (little characters indicating how the kanji are pronounced) so I guess it's shoujo. Josei manga don't tend to have them, since they're for an age group that is supposed to know how to pronounce most kanji. And it's published in Cookie, which I think is considered a shoujo manga magazine. Anyway, I think NANA the anime (haven't read much of the manga) is a masterpiece, no matter what age or gender it's aimed at.
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Old 2007-04-12, 13:45   Link #843
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The funny thing about the food scene to me was how all the food they talk about appears in front of them, which is not very realistic if you think about it.

I wish a group would translate the web radio shows.
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Old 2007-04-12, 13:47   Link #844
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Hey, I like Cardcaptor Sakura so far. I've only seen about 3 episodes subbed, but I was quite amused at just how abusive she is to Touya (Such as routinely stomping on his foot or smashing his shins with her rollerblade). Oh and Tomoyo is also very very creepy in her obvious attraction to Sakura.
That's why I said "by market's standards". Of course, I've enjoyed my share of shoujo stuff, too (and the CCS manga is a masterpiece in terms of stepping over the sexuality stereotypes of society). I certainly disagree with the intention of selecting a demographics based in gender, but that's how market works today.

PS: Damn, I'm still getting carried away by the offtopic. Last post, this was.
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Old 2007-04-12, 13:55   Link #845
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Excellent!
I'm still wondering, though, how Lucky Channel is related to the rest of Lucky Star. Surely there had to be some pre-existing connection--maybe it's omake material in the Lucky Star manga, or the net show had scripts written by the manga author? Or are they totally unrelated and just an example of the amazing power of Japanese marketing?
Akira, Hikage, and a few other characters don't come out in the 4Koma itself until after the DS Game: Moe~ Drill was released (the game is a spoof off Brain Age). Minoru has yet to appear in the manga (well, actually upto Vol3... I haven't got my hands on 4 yet, and he's suppose to appear in the 4koma according to the Lucky Channel at some pt).

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Isn't there a man ogling school girls in the OP?
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Old 2007-04-12, 14:09   Link #846
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I was about to say a few words about ccs myself. but its offtopic.
Watched a subbed version of Lucky star. I actually tried to watch it raw at first but couldnt understand much except for when they were discussing where's the head part.
liked everything here.
may i ask. will it be the only thread dedicated to the series? it would be nice to make a section in the current series part with episode discussion. after the end of kanon 2006 i feel a bit out of place
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Old 2007-04-12, 14:12   Link #847
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may i ask. will it be the only thread dedicated to the series? it would be nice to make a section in the current series part with episode discussion. after the end of kanon 2006 i feel a bit out of place
It'll probably get its own forum if you give it a while. The fall shows got forums a few weeks after airing, right?
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Old 2007-04-12, 14:28   Link #848
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Wow...Im amazed at how big this thread is with only one episode out.

Hah but that aside it was a pretty cute episode. The food bit at the start ill admit felt more then alittle weak, but by the end it felt like things were clicking more. I especially loved the LS Channel bit at the end.
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Old 2007-04-12, 14:37   Link #849
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Wow...Im amazed at how big this thread is with only one episode out.

Hah but that aside it was a pretty cute episode. The food bit at the start ill admit felt more then alittle weak, but by the end it felt like things were clicking more. I especially loved the LS Channel bit at the end.
It's probably because every Kyoto Animation show is an instant hit no matter what it is. They don't really have to do anything to begin with other than have their name on it, kind of like Bones and to a lesser extent Sunrise and and Gainax. The company honestly needs their own forum along with Sunrise, Gainax and BONES. I'm starting to wonder if that's how it should go from here on out. Just have a forum for each big company and empty it out once a year.

Really though its just me and a bunch of the same guys posting over and over again. If you look at it its actually only about 10-15 people posting all that frequently. Thank me for the long ass thread.
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Old 2007-04-12, 14:43   Link #850
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It's probably because every Kyoto Animation show is an instant hit no matter what it is. They don't really have to do anything to begin with other than have their name on it, kind of like Bones and to a lesser extent Sunrise and and Gainax. The company honestly needs their own forum along with Sunrise, Gainax and BONES. I'm starting to wonder if that's how it should go from here on out. Just have a forum for each big company and empty it out once a year.
Not every Bones show is popular. Jyu Oh Sei and Ayakashi Ayashi didn't have many viewers, even if they were well animated. Though I do wonder sometimes why there aren't forums for the major animation studios. More often than not in KyoAni threads it gets off topic on the studio, just like now.
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Not every Bones show is popular. Jyu Oh Sei and Ayakashi Ayashi didn't have many viewers, even if they were well animated. Though I do wonder sometimes why there aren't forums for the major animation studios. More often than not in KyoAni threads it gets off topic on the studio, just like now.
Well they are the best studio of all time so its no wonder.
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Old 2007-04-12, 14:54   Link #852
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You know the saying these guys are now legends on their own right LOL
Just made this...

Spoiler for 4koma:
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Old 2007-04-12, 15:05   Link #853
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You gotta be kidding me.....
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Old 2007-04-12, 15:07   Link #854
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You know the saying these guys are now legends on their own right LOL
Just made this...

Spoiler for 4koma:
Where did those guys come from. God I hate that picture. That and the Galaxy Angel Rune thing that people keep doing. The former can be funny as it makes fun of the predictability of Otakus, but I can't stand to look at those same people anymore, and the later I never thought was funny at all. I can only assume that one was at one point used to make fun of mass produced Sugar Pop openings, but now they just use it for every new series that comes out. Then again this is all coming from my very bizarre and often jaded literal point of view.

@Blood Nightingale: I can virtually guarantee you that came from 2chan, its very original like the rest of the things that come from that board. That's another one I'm getting tired of. Of course the thing about meme pictures is that they are posted long after people stop laughing or caring, kind of like the Jon Benet and O.J Stories in your local supermarket tabloid.
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Old 2007-04-12, 15:09   Link #855
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Not every Bones show is popular. Jyu Oh Sei and Ayakashi Ayashi didn't have many viewers, even if they were well animated. Though I do wonder sometimes why there aren't forums for the major animation studios. More often than not in KyoAni threads it gets off topic on the studio, just like now.
Ayakashi Ayashi didn't have mass appeal. Still, it was a show i loved to pieces. As for Lucky Star, i think that any studio could get away with animated it, sure it looks pretty with Kyoani, though that doesn't make an adaptation from a 4-koma manga.
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Ayakashi Ayashi didn't have mass appeal. Still, it was a show i loved to pieces. As for Lucky Star, i think that any studio could get away with animated it, sure it looks pretty with Kyoani, though that doesn't make an adaptation from a 4-koma manga.
It would never sell as well though, not a chance. Kyoto Animation is the Mr. Noodles of anime, they have brand power.

The only thing that surprised me here so far regarding the popularity of the show is that it isn't that popular relatively speaking. It's has just the right degree of exposure at the moment to make it enjoyable without rubbing its existence in everyone elses faces, but that when you go to the board to talk about it, odds are somebody's actually listening. It's fun and it gets people talking without consuming them. I'm going to set the episode to download for when I get home tonight so then I can talk about what went on. I expect to enjoy it far more than Haruhi as it's perfectly avoidable when I'm in the mood for something else, and I can enjoy it on my own terms.
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You gotta be kidding me.....
It's either their mocking, making a parody or advertising Haruhi Sumiya. But imho that's what you call branching market. Their using Lucky Stars characters to advertise other anime as well the Fate/Stay Night the cover mag tells it all LOL
Maybe that's why they're otaku's and gamers in the story.
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It would never sell as well though, not a chance. Kyoto Animation is the Mr. Noodles of anime, they have brand power.

The only thing that surprised me here so far regarding the popularity of the show is that it isn't that popular relatively speaking. It's has just the right degree of exposure at the moment to make it enjoyable without rubbing its existence in everyone elses faces, but that when you go to the board to talk about it, odds are somebody's actually listening. It's fun and it gets people talking without consuming them. I'm going to set the episode to download for when I get home tonight so then I can talk about what went on. I expect to enjoy it far more than Haruhi as it's perfectly avoidable when I'm in the mood for something else, and I can enjoy it on my own terms.
What's Mr. Noodles?

So it's recovered from everyone flaming it? I was worried it might end up as KyoAni's black sheep or something.
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What's Mr. Noodles?

So it's recovered from everyone flaming it? I was worried it might end up as KyoAni's black sheep or something.
Well its definitely their least popular series to date, but that also makes it far less stifling. You don't feel like somebodies going to jump out of the bushes and call you a troll or an enemy of Haruhism if you so much as point out one minor flaw in the show.

And Mr. Noodles is a popular brand of Ramen Noodles in North America.
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Well its definitely their least popular series to date, but that also makes it far less stifling. You don't feel like somebodies going to jump out of the bushes and call you a troll or an enemy of Haruhism if you so much as point out one minor flaw in the show.

And Mr. Noodles is a popular brand of Ramen Noodles in North America.
Goodness, I'm glad I didn't haunt the Haruhi forums, then. I would've been scared out of liking the show.

I eat Maruchan ramen.
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