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2011-04-30, 23:33   Link #4801
risingstar3110
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 Originally Posted by SaintessHeart Closest way is to soak it with water before putting it in a tub of oil. Then measure the amount of oil displaced using Archimedes Principle minus off the water level accumulated at the bottom. Alternatively you could soak the sponge in a measuring tub of water, then hang it in a colander to drip off the water back into the tub. Honestly I think the volume will be off because the mass of water on the upper layer of the sponge will weight down on the bottom part and cause more water to drip off than it originally should.
It's hard to soak the water evenly inside the sponge through
Actually i think the best way to do it is measure the sponge in analytical scale (A). Then measure the weight of a cup full of liquid (full to very last drop) (B). Drop the sponge in, wait for it to sink. Clean all the water which surged out. Measure the weight of the cup with the sponge (C). Calculate volume:
V = (A+B-C)/(density of that liquid)
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2011-05-01, 04:44   Link #4802
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by risingstar3110 It's hard to soak the water evenly inside the sponge through
Simple. Wring/compress the sponge underwater until no more air bubbles come out, then let it absorb more water.

Quote:
 Actually i think the best way to do it is measure the sponge in analytical scale (A). Then measure the weight of a cup full of liquid (full to very last drop) (B). Drop the sponge in, wait for it to sink. Clean all the water which surged out. Measure the weight of the cup with the sponge (C). Calculate volume: V = (A+B-C)/(density of that liquid)
Sponges don't sink by themselves unless a pressure is applied on it to sink, or the mass of water absorbed by the sponge outweighs the entire dry sponge itself, meaning which the sponge has to be really thin. The trapped air pockets totaled up will counteract to the water absorbed and let it stay afloat, similar to the concept of why wood floats on water.

Filling the cup full of liquid isn't exactly a good idea because of the molecular structure of water that result in hydrogen bonds, resulting in a less than accurate measurement of volume. Markings below the filling point are often used in Archimedes-type experiments to counteract this error when the container has a large area.

Volume/density formula is a good idea though. There should be a few more control group sets with the same sponge and liquids to get a more accurate mean value.
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2011-05-01, 04:59   Link #4803
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 Originally Posted by SaintessHeart Simple. Wring/compress the sponge underwater until no more air bubbles come out, then let it absorb more water.
How can you move that sponge to an oil container without any water to be lost during the process through? That's actually what i meant

Quote:
 Sponges don't sink by themselves unless a pressure is applied on it to sink, or the mass of water absorbed by the sponge outweighs the entire dry sponge itself, meaning which the sponge has to be really thin. The trapped air pockets totaled up will counteract to the water absorbed and let it stay afloat, similar to the concept of why wood floats on water. Filling the cup full of liquid isn't exactly a good idea because of the molecular structure of water that result in hydrogen bonds, resulting in a less than accurate measurement of volume. Markings below the filling point are often used in Archimedes-type experiments to counteract this error when the container has a large area. Volume/density formula is a good idea though. There should be a few more control group sets with the same sponge and liquids to get a more accurate mean value.
Well we can just push it down by hand, then fill the water to the mark if it can't sink.

I planned to ignore the hydrogen bond at first to make it less complicated, and since expected the error is small enough. But if can't be help then either using a large beaker, or more extreme, a specific design volumetric flask (that have an opening to put the sponge in and a small neck to reduce error)
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2011-05-01, 07:09   Link #4804
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 Originally Posted by risingstar3110 How can you move that sponge to an oil container without any water to be lost during the process through? That's actually what i meant
Put it above the container and transfer the sponge. Water sinks under oil and you can minus off the marking.
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When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus.
Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.

 2011-05-01, 07:59 Link #4805 -KarumA- (｡☉౪ ⊙｡) Author     Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In Maya world, where all is 3D and everything crashes Age: 30 I am looking for a website, maybe someone here can help me out. It is of the (yaoi) doujinshi circle BokeBON who have recently been doing quite some Star Driver comics. I am always having trouble looking for proper search sites for circles, a lot fo people do not include links but are there proper search engines for them?
2011-05-01, 08:05   Link #4806
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 Originally Posted by -KarumA- I am looking for a website, maybe someone here can help me out. It is of the (yaoi) doujinshi circle BokeBON who have recently been doing quite some Star Driver comics. I am always having trouble looking for proper search sites for circles, a lot fo people do not include links but are there proper search engines for them?
Try searching on google using hira/kata instead of romanji?
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When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus.
Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.

 2011-05-01, 08:35 Link #4807 genryou The ______ maker Graphic Designer     Join Date: May 2007 Location: MMO http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/275...9747991419.jpg Quick question: That guy on the left, his haircut, what kind of haircut it is? I want to know. Last edited by genryou; 2011-05-01 at 09:05.
2011-05-01, 09:03   Link #4808
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 Originally Posted by SaintessHeart Try searching on google using hira/kata instead of romanji?
The problem is that google hardly gives the result I need. The circle name is in romaji, it's also in romaji on the cover.
I tried adding the series name, doujinshi title (hira/kata) but allas no results. Google barely results circle websites if they did they it wouldn't be so hard to find them.
I've contacted the seller if maybe he can look it up inside the book itself, but I am still looking for a decent search site for circles.

 2011-05-01, 09:32 Link #4809 HasuMasu Diamond is Unbreakable Artist     Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way can someone tell me what the alarm clock yuuichi (kanon) got from nayuki said? you know, the cat alarm clock he got from nayuki __________________
2011-05-01, 09:57   Link #4810
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 Originally Posted by -KarumA- The problem is that google hardly gives the result I need. The circle name is in romaji, it's also in romaji on the cover. I tried adding the series name, doujinshi title (hira/kata) but allas no results. Google barely results circle websites if they did they it wouldn't be so hard to find them. I've contacted the seller if maybe he can look it up inside the book itself, but I am still looking for a decent search site for circles.
I have seen the manga being sold on ebay, but they didn't give the back cover.

If I am not wrong, usually doujinshis leave their emails or sites in the manga itself. If you own a copy, you could browse through it for clues.

Though you might want to find someone who you know and can trust in importing one if you don't own a copy.
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When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus.
Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.

2011-05-01, 10:49   Link #4811
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 Originally Posted by SaintessHeart I have seen the manga being sold on ebay, but they didn't give the back cover. If I am not wrong, usually doujinshis leave their emails or sites in the manga itself. If you own a copy, you could browse through it for clues. Though you might want to find someone who you know and can trust in importing one if you don't own a copy.
I wasn't looking to buy it, but I asked the seller if they could send me the link.
I have a good contact who goes to conventions to buy books for me but I wanted some more information ont he circle itself. She is currently under enough stress from the Earthquake so I didn't want to bother her with this.
Hopefully the seller contacts me soon.

2011-05-01, 10:58   Link #4812
SaintessHeart
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 Originally Posted by -KarumA- I wasn't looking to buy it, but I asked the seller if they could send me the link. I have a good contact who goes to conventions to buy books for me but I wanted some more information ont he circle itself. She is currently under enough stress from the Earthquake so I didn't want to bother her with this. Hopefully the seller contacts me soon.
Alright I looked through a scanalation and found it.

http://bon.rgr.jp/boke-mokuji.htm

NOW GET ME SOME BRAIN BLEACH! NEED TO UNSEE! ARGH! Why can't these people put their info at the goddamn front page????
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When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus.
Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.

 2011-05-02, 18:56 Link #4813 Izayoi I LOVE FLAN_CHAN Graphic Designer     Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Flan-chan Age: 15 Do most people draw straight from tablet or on paper then scan? Usually I do the latter and it always has been the norm, thus I was just wondering about the majority attitude towards this. __________________ I love Flandre Scarlet
 2011-05-03, 01:07 Link #4814 SaintessHeart NYAAAAHAAANNNNN~     Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 28 I draw on paper then scan later because I don't have a tablet. Here is a question : is there a way to stop a political party's van from making rounds and contributing to noise pollution? I am tired of listening to their "Vote for us and get free stuff" nonsense on a daily basis everytime I come home for my afternoon nap! __________________ When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus. Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.
2011-05-03, 09:56   Link #4815
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Izayoi Do most people draw straight from tablet or on paper then scan? Usually I do the latter and it always has been the norm, thus I was just wondering about the majority attitude towards this.
Depends:

- for drawthread people go directly on tablet because you can easily sketch on it

For anythign that doesn't use direct detail I would use direct from tablet.

However when drawing: I draw a draft first, mark what has to be inked etc. but do not colour the drawing.
Scan it, load into Illustrator, make new layer and make lines with the tablet.
For what I have to ink I don't use one line with the ink tool, I go around the black line down where it has to go and back up to close it. This way you can easily pull the sides if you want the drawing to have slightly thicker areas and thinner ones and not just one thick/thin line.

For more detail: drawing -> tablet
For quick sketches: direct tablet (sketsches, storyboards, character draft for 3D anything like that)

 2011-05-04, 09:25 Link #4816 HasuMasu Diamond is Unbreakable Artist     Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way now, i have a question: is it possible to catch a falling person? for example: what if hitagi wasn't weightless and araragi still decided to catch her? would they both just die? or could they still walk away from it with functioning arms and legs? __________________
2011-05-04, 09:40   Link #4817
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 Originally Posted by Da_Box now, i have a question: is it possible to catch a falling person? for example: what if hitagi wasn't weightless and araragi still decided to catch her? would they both just die? or could they still walk away from it with functioning arms and legs?
Depend on how far from her fall and how Araragi catch it...

The trick here is to increase the impact duration (now i forgot the actual term, but it's the duration for your head to deceleration from certain speed to zero, 0.05s if you hit the floor for example) using your arms and reduce the force. Similarly, in theory tripping and falling into the ground can kill you (if your head hit straight onto the ground). But most of the times our aims or legs stick out to reduce that impacts
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 2011-05-04, 10:11 Link #4818 SaintessHeart NYAAAAHAAANNNNN~     Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 28 Question for anyone with legal knowledge or training : What does it exactly mean by Proper Plaintiff? __________________ When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus. Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.
 2011-05-06, 05:51 Link #4819 Tsuyoshi Disabled By Request   Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Great Justice Forum-related question: Can someone see if you've visited their profile if you're set to invisible? I ask cuz I sometimes see people I've visited come visit me after I visited them, but I can't see people who visit me if they're invisible. NOTE: I'm always invisible
2011-05-06, 15:43   Link #4820
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Given my brief testing with invisible mode to see if I still appeared on the "recent visitor" I'd say yes it does. As when I viewed someones profile as I still saw "Konakaga*" listed on their recent visitors; though I'd assume the * is only shown to me since I was on invisible.
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