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Old 2013-06-09, 09:46   Link #2701
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It actually is ambiguous.

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The only thing that comes in my mind is that the life counseling means "it's up to you if Yes or No" but then again I don't have the whole context so I can't really say.
Depends if the meeting place is the house and Kyousuke was talking about himself in retrospect cause we see him doing that a lot in his monologues. The ambiguity is probably there to avoid potential lawsuits/court cases.
Edit: Regardless of the actual words written, the meaning of them in the author's eye is pretty clear I think. I also don't think Kyousuke is the type of guy to a kiss a girl who has a boyfriend/lover cause he shows restraint with Ayase later in the novels.
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:47   Link #2702
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It actually is ambiguous.

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The only thing that comes in my mind is that the life counseling means "it's up to you if Yes or No" but then again I don't have the whole context so I can't really say.
I don't know what the exact translation is here but it could also be a meta comment saying "who is kyousuke?" A loving brother or a lover?

At least that's how I view it from that line.
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:47   Link #2703
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It actually is ambiguous.

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The only thing that comes in my mind is that the life counseling means "it's up to you if Yes or No" but then again I don't have the whole context so I can't really say.
Hmm, probably the entire part is needed in order to judge that. As for your question in the spoiler:

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Old 2013-06-09, 09:48   Link #2704
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This is the page, I guess spoilers are not needed.

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Old 2013-06-09, 09:48   Link #2705
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Nothing more to be said,its crystal clear what it means so if it is accurately translated I rate this one as not an open ending simple as is
I am rather confused here with this line? is she running away from kyousuke and saying this?
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:50   Link #2706
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I don't know what the exact translation is here but it could also be a meta comment saying "who is kyousuke?" A loving brother or a lover.

At least that's how I view it from that line.
After shouting 'I love my little sister'' and ''Incest is the greatest'' I can only interpret it as one and only thing,I think you know what I mean
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:50   Link #2707
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If what I've been told corresponds to the truth (and the translator is a good one), this is exactly what is said after the "life counseling" line.

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I don't understand...
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:51   Link #2708
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I am rather confused here with this line? is she running away from kyousuke and saying this?
It would be good if somebody who can read Japanese took a look at this last paragraph and translates it. The way I see it is

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Old 2013-06-09, 09:52   Link #2709
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After shouting 'I love my little sister'' and ''Incest is the greatest'' I can only interpret it as one and only thing,I think you know what I mean
He's said the same shit in the first season as a joke or a means to fulfill his duty to Kirino, saving her in shitty situations. That is a misnomer as far as I'm concerned, again this stuff is all up for interpretation hence why the whole thing bothers me.
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:53   Link #2710
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He's said the same shit in the first season. That is a misnomer as far as I'm concerned, again this stuff is all up for interpretation hence why the whole thing bothers me.
I do think there is a huge difference between what he said back then and here. And, perhaps I forgot, but where exactly did he say he loved his sister (romantically) in the first volumes / season?
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:55   Link #2711
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I do think there is a huge difference between what he said back then and here. And, perhaps I forgot, but where exactly did he say he loved his sister (romantically) in the first volumes / season?
To Ayase when Kirino and her were at odds with each other.
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:55   Link #2712
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He's said the same shit in the first season as a joke or a means to fulfill his duty to Kirino, saving her in shitty situations. That is a misnomer as far as I'm concerned, again this stuff is all up for interpretation hence why the whole thing bothers me.
At that time he says it as a way to repair Kirino's and Ayase's friendship but this time I think he means it and yes you can interpret it the way you want. I bet Tsukasa Fushimi is laughing after putting us into this mess lol

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I do think there is a huge difference between what he said back then and here. And, perhaps I forgot, but where exactly did he say he loved his sister (romantically) in the first volumes / season?
Season 1 Ep 5 and I dont think he meant it in a romantic way that moment
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:57   Link #2713
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At that time he says it as a way to repair Kirino's and Ayase's friendship but this time I think he means it and yes you can interpret it the way you want. I bet Tsukasa Fushimi is laughing after putting us into this mess lol
I'm still wondering if he can still write another series cause it seems like A LOT of his fanbase hates him now.
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:57   Link #2714
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At that time he says it as a way to repair Kirino's and Ayase's friendship but this time I think he means it and yes you can interpret it the way you want. I bet Tsukasa Fushimi is laughing after putting us into this mess lol
Very probably, he is one epic troll.
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Old 2013-06-09, 09:57   Link #2715
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To Ayase when Kirino and her were at odds with each other.
Ah, this. Well this was an entirely different situation. This was something improvised. In contrast his confession in Vol.12 is deliberately prepared by first rejecting everybody else. And then planning and setting up that Christmas date. Chapter 1 showed, Kyousuke planned that Christmas eve up till the last detail.
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Old 2013-06-09, 10:00   Link #2716
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Ah, this. Well this was an entirely different situation. This was something improvised. In contrast his confession in Vol.12 is deliberately prepared by first rejecting everybody else. And then planning and setting up that Christmas date. Chapter 1 showed, Kyousuke planned that Christmas eve up till the last detail.
Well in Volume 11 after rejecting Sakurai he says ''I PLANNED to confess to her'' so yes everything he says in Volume 12 are indeed romantic feelings no doubt
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Old 2013-06-09, 10:01   Link #2717
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Ah, this. Well this was an entirely different situation. This was something improvised. In contrast his confession in Vol.12 is deliberately prepared by first rejecting everybody else. And then planning and setting up that Christmas date. Chapter 1 showed, Kyousuke planned that Christmas eve up till the last detail.
Yes and going off the spoilers I have a different view of the situation. You are free to view it how you like as am I. I wont be able to make a true determination until I read the entire thing(summaries just are enough for me) or watch it assuming the anime follows the exact same path.
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Old 2013-06-09, 10:01   Link #2718
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Taken out of context, that last line, if the interpretation of it is correct, could be easily mistaken(?) as Kyousuke wondering what kind of boyfriend Kirino will have in the future.
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Old 2013-06-09, 10:03   Link #2719
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Yes and going off the spoilers I have a different view of the situation. You are free to view it how you like as am I. I wont be able to make a true determination until I read the entire thing(summaries just are enough for me) or watch it assuming the anime follows the exact same path.
Well, the first time involved the "i love my imouto" so if this confession revolves around "I love Kirino" then it's safe to say its romantic according to standard definition.
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Old 2013-06-09, 10:04   Link #2720
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Yes and going off the spoilers I have a different view of the situation. You are free to view it how you like as am I. I wont be able to make a true determination until I read the entire thing(summaries just are enough for me) or watch it assuming the anime follows the exact same path.
True, true. But I do agree that it is not as clearly stated as could have been. But on the other hand I kind of understand why this is.
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