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Old 2013-06-19, 00:18   Link #3861
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Your only hope is the author's blog or additional interviews something.
Something like that will never be in Dengeki Bunko, and I doubt it will be bundled with any BDs since Aniplex probably doesn't want to go there either.

It's best you do not get your hopes up for something like that ever coming, officially.
If there ever was something like that, it would end up being like:
Kirino and Kyousuke are living together.

And that's it, no romance stuff, no confirmation of anything, just more ambiguous stuff.
There would still be no conclusion, but I guess they could hammer it home hard enough to the point it gets hard to deny. Who knows what they will do though, maybe nothing.
Knowing Kirino and Kyousuke living together is enough for a closure... It's not I want to see their baby....
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Old 2013-06-19, 01:41   Link #3862
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Any news on the '10 year story' ?
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Old 2013-06-19, 03:34   Link #3863
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And then it's like bam at the end kyosuke is like tadaima(I'm home) during the lifie consultation

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Old 2013-06-19, 04:35   Link #3864
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And then it's like bam at the end kyosuke is like tadaima(I'm home) during the lifie consultation
A 'tadaima' Kyousuke, and a "welcome home" kiss from Kirino....?

I'm not asking too much. Right? Right?
...will squeeze in joy if that happens.....
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Old 2013-06-19, 04:46   Link #3865
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A 'tadaima' Kyousuke, and a "welcome home" kiss from Kirino....?

I'm not asking too much. Right? Right?
...will squeeze in joy if that happens.....
This, will make this series complete.
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Old 2013-06-19, 05:03   Link #3866
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A 'tadaima' Kyousuke, and a "welcome home" kiss from Kirino....?

I'm not asking too much. Right? Right?
...will squeeze in joy if that happens.....
Me too. If that happens......................
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Old 2013-06-19, 09:07   Link #3867
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What pisses me off is that in fact we don't know how Kyousuke and Kirino will deal their situation.
Look: if they settled things in order to being normal siblings despite their love feelings, then the author could show us a real effort from them to achieve this goal. That would be a definite way to end the story and we could imagine the future, the implications and the possible logical developments from this ending. We could calm down... either being happy or unappy with the ending. Before the epilogue seemed it will happen, but noooo....

They go out to an event from their otaku partners. She suddenly asks him to buy her a ring (not a Meruru BD, or an eroge, or a game character figure, but an object more significant for a couple and particularly for their own story: a ring!). Does it not make him remember something?
Then Kyousuke concludes (at my vision, correctly) that buying a ring to Kirino is not quite good because he is no longer her boyfriend! What's her response when he demonstrates not want to buy the ring?? "We are siblings... there is no problem!" (Huuu??? No problem!!?)
They start to ignore from this very moment the agreement to be normal siblings!! They permit ONE couple's characteristic action (in Kyousuke's point of view). Here started my confusion....
After that in "retaliation" Kyousuke uses his wish to kiss Kirino. Where was the kiss does not matter. They permit ONE MORE couple's characteristic action (in Kirinos's side of view) and as result she acts very tsundere... (This could generate a chain reaction in order to break the agreement? O my.... I don't no... it is not clear!)
Kyousuke's response cames in same way: "We are siblings, then there is no problem!"

The confusion in my mind is stated... in the epilogue the settlement of being normal siblings is messy and in fact we don't know what Kyousuke and Kirino intends to do.
As a result there is no way to conclude if they intend to elope in a distant future, or if they are actually lovers in secret, or if they will continuously smash their own feelings in order to live like (almost) normal siblings...
The autor don't permit us to know the true path chosen by the main characters... it's an excessively open ending...

The doubts pops out everytime in my mind. The "10 years after" short story doesn't help...
I enjoyed the light novel from the very start till the end and I was huge impacted, but I think that there is much more story to tell. This sensation is painfull.

Sorry for these pathetic comments, but I did need to talk about this (also pathetic) thoughts from my mind... I will have a long time until calm down my feelings and stop thinking about Oreimo.

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Old 2013-06-19, 09:49   Link #3868
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Part 2 of Chapter 1

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Old 2013-06-19, 10:02   Link #3869
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Part 2 of Chapter 1

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Two parts "two"? xD
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Old 2013-06-19, 10:16   Link #3870
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Two parts "two"? xD
Yep, the other one was the upper half. It is included in this part 2.
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Old 2013-06-19, 11:32   Link #3871
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In the oreimo dvd 1 animated commentary you can find online
Have you ever noticed that Super Kyousuke was mentioned way back and said to appear in vol 12, and he even says the line "because we're siblings" way back. ITS A CONSPIRACY joking aside maybe they had some planning.

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Old 2013-06-19, 12:28   Link #3872
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In the oreimo dvd 1 animated commentary you can find online
Have you ever noticed that Super Kyousuke was mentioned way back and said to appear in vol 12, and he even says the line "because we're siblings" way back. ITS A CONSPIRACY joking aside maybe they had some planning.
I'm sure there was a vague vision of how he wanted it to end.
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Old 2013-06-19, 14:21   Link #3873
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Where is the "time skip"?
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Old 2013-06-19, 20:58   Link #3874
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Old 2013-06-19, 23:44   Link #3875
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http://ebook.itmedia.co.jp/ebook/art...0/news020.html

New interview? It was featured on Yaraon, so maybe it's important
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Old 2013-06-20, 00:13   Link #3876
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http://ebook.itmedia.co.jp/ebook/art...0/news020.html

New interview? It was featured on Yaraon, so maybe it's important
I'll post some interesting highlights as I read it (so will update this post as I go)...

- The author's main feeling after the work being over is "lonely" (sort of sad that it's over).

- The author felt a great deal of pressure in finishing the ending knowing that the anime was also going to be adapting the story to the end.

- The ending had been planned for a long time, and become more concrete around the time that the author was working on the bonus features (the animated commentaries) for the first season of the anime.

- His thoughts when writing the ending were influenced by Kirino "if" ending in the OreImo Portable game where Kirino's feelings were able to be completely rewarded (thanks to the "if" twist). Obviously in the real work he couldn't make use of that twist, and so couldn't write the ending in a clear/obvious way, but when he considered the extent of Kirino's feelings for Kyousuke, he decided that he had to "do something about it".

- By the end of the story, his favourite character is Kirino, but it wasn't that way at first and he was just as annoyed with her as Kyousuke was at the beginning. But having her hide her true romantic feelings was part of the setting, and so he struggled to bring out the charm of this hated heroine little by little over the course of the narrative. And then, as all these developments started adding up, the amount of people who came to like her increased, and that made the author happy.

- The timing for the release of the last novel was to some extent at the discretion of the author, but also the result of various circumstances. Still, it wasn't purely by chance, so the author apologizes for keeping readers waiting for so long.

- The anime staff knew ahead of time that they wouldn't be able to adapt all the way to the last volume and fit it into the TV airing, so that's why they chose the unusual release for the last few episodes. The author thinks is mostly just because the staff want to do a good job with it.

- They talk a little bit about how this franchise has been so successful as a "media mix", with so many collaborations and tie-ins. The author mentioned that he just accepted them gratefully at first, but as the work got more and more popular he couldn't stop. The editor says that though they risked going overboard, the author decided not to worry about it. The setting of OreImo had offered a lot of possibilities for them to basically do whatever they wanted in terms of tie-ins. Even inside the work itself, Kirino worked as a model so could appear on billboards, and that wouldn't be at all out-of-character. So they had a lot of freedom. And, the anime isn't over yet, so there are still more opportunities to come.

- Regarding the Railgun collaboration, because he knew his partner was a great writer, the OreImo author basically took the liberty to write whatever he wanted with abandon assuming that the Index author would say something if he had a problem with it... but he hasn't said anything yet. So the author is half-worried about their next meeting...

- Regarding Kirino basically becoming one of the representative characters for the Dengeki Bunko imprint, the author apologizes for being a troublemaker (and comments that the other writers must be sick of him), but says that he doesn't let that pressure affect his writing or change what he wants to write. He says that "occasionally I have no choice but to change what I want to write, but I decided from the get-go that I wouldn't write something 'lukewarm'". (i.e. That he wouldn't write just to please others, or in response to pressure.)

- So far OreImo hasn't been released in e-book format, and the editor says that it's still being decided, but should happen in time. The author says that from his perspective, he doesn't mind if people consume books electronically since the contents are the same, though it would bug him a little bit if the resulting format didn't preserve the presentation of the page (the amount of letters on a line, etc.). The author also says that he personally owns a Kindle Paperwhite and loves it.

- When asked if he feels any stress when reading on an e-reader, he says that turning the pages is a bit slow, particularly for manga. And the biggest problem is that e-books aren't available day-and-date with printed releases, and he's the type who likes to read things on day one. He says otherwise he'd like to buy e-books...

- Regarding the latest discussions about freedom of expression in manga (i.e. related to the proposed revisions to the child porn laws), the author unsurprisingly says that he doesn't think the publishing industries need further regulation. (my comment: This is sort of a silly interview question, fishing for an easy quote.)

- To close, the author thanks all the readers for sticking with him for these five years, and says that he's happy if readers liked even one of the characters from the OreImo universe. Work has begun on his new work, and he's trying hard to make charming characters that will give OreImo a run for its money, and hopes everyone will look forward to the day when they get to meet them.

(The End)


My comments: That makes two interviews now where the author suggests pretty clearly that his true intention in the ending was held-back by Dengeki Bunko's editorial policies. I'm a bit surprised they're letting him say that much, but I guess the risk isn't too big at this point. By pointing to the OreImo Portable if ending, it gives a sense of the direction he wanted to give to Kirino. (And, personally speaking, I totally felt the same way when I played the OreImo Portable game; there was something about that ending that was freeing, like a giant weight taken off of the story's shoulders despite the cop-out employed in the game. So it doesn't surprise me at all that this was an inspiration for the novel ending's final form. So what the author says here about realizing the extent of Kirino's feelings and needing to do something about it really rings true to me.) I also think it's interesting that, even as the author, he sort of treats himself in a bit of a detached sense from his characters -- like how he hates his own work's main heroine, and the story ends once the author finally comes to love her (echoing the journey of Kyousuke in the narrative). It sort of gives you the sense that he sees himself as more of an "instigator", and the characters just react according to "who they are". That's why it's also telling to me that he explains his new work in terms of the new characters you'll meet. Not surprisingly, I think the characters are probably this work's greatest strength.

I do also feel a tiny bit vindicated when the author said that Kirino hiding her true romantic feelings was part of the setting from the get-go, only because of all those long arguments we had back in the s1 airing days about Kirino's true feelings and her reason for acting the way she did. Some people kept insisting that there was nothing romantic there, and she was just being "bitchy" purely because of whatever he did in the past. A tiny part of me gets to say "I told you so."
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Old 2013-06-20, 01:36   Link #3877
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So he confirmed it twice that he indeed wanted to give Kirino a happy ending for hiding her romantic feelings for Kyousuke,and the only reason he cant show it is because of editing policies. I dont know how many times I've (most of the people on this forum) said it but I think this just cleared things up. And just like what I said,in the beginning she acts outrageous,then gradually by time passing she shows her true kind side. Pretty sad that this series have come to an end but at least we know it has closure. Cheers mate
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Old 2013-06-20, 02:31   Link #3878
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so officially, it can't be denied that it's an absolutely completely romantic kirino end. hope nothing can change that =)

btw, what's the railgun collaboration about? will touma facepunch manami and shatter that illusion of hers?
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Old 2013-06-20, 02:58   Link #3879
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- The ending had been planned for a long time, and become more concrete around the time that the author was working on the bonus features (the animated commentaries) for the first season of the anime.

My comments: That makes two interviews now where the author suggests pretty clearly that his true intention in the ending was held-back by Dengeki Bunko's editorial policies. I'm a bit surprised they're letting him say that much, but I guess the risk isn't too big at this point.
Yesterday I went and watched some of the commentaries and I must say, knowing volume 12 some comments really gave a hint towards the development.

As for the editorial policies, well if the publisher insists, then there's only so much an author can do. So I don't think people should blame him too much, if they think the ending is too open.
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Old 2013-06-20, 03:00   Link #3880
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Yesterday I went and watched some of the commentaries and I must say, knowing volume 12 some comments really gave a hint towards the development.

As for the editorial policies, well if the publisher insists, then there's only so much an author can do. So I don't think people should blame him too much, if they think the ending is too open.
How so that the ending is too open?

Though... I'm not sure if he would make some extras for the OreImo LN or not.
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