[Manga] Chapter 445 Discussion
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can't wait to read the next chapter : )
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heard it was a special chapter.
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all of this isn't confirmed yet. |
i just want to see what nagato did to the leaf ninjas
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mm i found this script for this chapter. it says its 100% confirmed ok here it goes:
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Is next week golden-week in Japan?...
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Look's like we are getting an in depth look at nagato's journey, and if this is the real spoiler then it was indeed yahiko's dream that he is fulfilling... also kishi that meanie is gonna make us wait 2 weeks for the 2nd pain...
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Naruto at this moment is one of the superior Shounen. Pain and the sacrifice of Konoha are bringing a new dimension to many shounen readers. The sense of loss. We lost a bunch of loved characters, and why did we miss them after their death? Because they were -worked- on. Comparatively, numerous shounen keep introducing new characters without any sort of closure or ongoing development for the old ones. Those characters disappear out of the story when the main one doesn't need them. It shows one thing: A terrible lack of ability to plan out the story. In Naruto, secondary characters get their limelight. Not all of them, because there's a bunch, but a lot of them get their own growing phase. This is a -story- and by that, it means there's a thread that runs through it that people can follow. In other words, the plotline. It's there and it's real. I think it's worth it to keep our cool and patience, this isn't bad writing, as I've read many people write, on the contrary. Naruto is growing, and I'd like to see how, and -why- he grows the way he does. Pain is one of the many steps to that grown-up stage. I, for one, want to see a more mature Naruto, anyone else? |
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Please don't tell me the second pain was his dog getting killed. It does seem this way since Nagato mentions Yahiko's death and simply taking over his world view. And Naruto is sulking at the end of the spoiler which should mean Nagato's story time is over and he will now give his answer. If this is it, then I don't know what to say.
Kishi is trolling the fandom just like Kubo. |
Yeah, the whole dog thing is pretty weird.
...I guess Nagato/Yahiko saw the dog in a mirror one day and though, "Hey! God!"...so it is all the Dog's fault...damn mutt. |
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And one more thing that i almost forgot: why were the Pain bodies ninjas from Jiraiya's past. My guess is that after Jiraiya left them alone Yahiko wanted to beat too strong ninjas, so soon he died and Nagato went after Jiraiya, followed him secretly, not knowing what should he do with his life, also he followed in secret because he developed a hate for konoha and Jiraiya was a konoha ninja, so Nagato both liked and hated Jiraiya, he wanted to find out if Jiraiya's idealism is the answer to his questions. But of course he concluded that Jiraiya failed and that Jiraiya's only achievment was to kill many ninja on his journey. So he collected the bodies that he think are the victims of hatred and created Pain using them, those bodies represent Nagato's condemnation of Jiraiya's idealism and ideas about the world. BTW the 5 pain bodies are from Jiraiya's book called Naruto, 4 of them beaten by Naruto himself :) |
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oh noes a puppy died! kishi knows my weakness. even if the plot was bad , which it is not id still be won over by the dramatic animal deaths.
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