[Tk3997]

Can we talk about politics somewhere else, please? I really would rather not have to wade through this sort of crap if I'm looking in a discussion topic involving a title that's as lighthearted as Strike Witches.

You have a point, getting too heavy into it will likely just start a fight.

Originally Posted by wavehawk

- Unfortunately A-10 Thunderbolt >>>> Tanks. ^_^

Yes well, but then A-10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any kind of absurd 20 meter tall mecha even harder.

Actually A-10>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything that moves along the ground.

Seriously, Herman Yandell does for the Type 61 Tank what Norris Packard did for the Gouf--made a relatively low-end machine that I -personally- wouldn't have bothered with look ABSOLUTELY BADASS.

That's hardly difficult to do if you put the slightest effort into it. I can't count how many awesome feats of tank badass'itude I've had in video games over the years. It's all in simply giving the tank the same respect you'd give a Mech frankly.

Oh, back on-topic, A girl of marriageable age here:

Spoiler for Big Image is big:

Seen it, and yes I would hit that like a Jet Propelled Freight Train.

Originally Posted by Keroko

I grew up with subs, so for me the things are rather slugish. If the dub is good though I will switch. Trigun is one of those shows I prefer to watch dubbed, Vash's voice is infinitely more amusing in English (that, and it's a sci-fi western)

It's surely a matter of taste based more or less solely on opinion, which is why the sub vs. dub flamewars will never ever end. It's like debating if Purple is a cooler color then Green.

Yes, they were fighting two wars, but it wasn't until that second faction started kicking them that they got involved.

That depends on what you think of as "involed" really by 41 we were merely looking for an excuse and already supplying tons of weapons to the Allies. Hell we even had our own warships escorting merchants and attacking U-boats. In fact a US Destroyer was torpedoed and sunk by a U-Boat during 1941 before war was declared IIRC.

In retrospect, this might explain why there are so few Liberion pilots. The Neuroi don't pester Liberion that much if I recall, so 'Pearl Harbor' never happened. Liberion keeps most of its forces on its own borders.

This seems an extremely tenuous position to me, they were after all more then willing to send an active duty pilot to fight in Suomus. This was considered a backwater and the pilot sent was an idiot true, but they had no obligation to send ANYONE. So if they truly were neutral or just didn’t care why not say to them “not our problem, piss off.”, but they didn’t and seemed to have wanted to at least appear to be helping.

Also if you try to use this argument then you must also ask what the hell Japan gains by sending people and why it’s involved. The US East coast is much closer to Europe then Japan is to ANY of the fighting. Japan also lacks any noticeable national interests in the contested areas. Yet it quickly forms up and ships off large numbers of pilots rather rapidly to the battlezone when the war breaks out.

The US meanwhile is ethnically much closer to Europe with many of its citizens being immigrants from the various threatened nations and it enjoys long and fairly good relations with a number of the threatened powers. This is beyond the simple fact that it would be abundantly clear that the Neuroi are genocidal and will not stop until they wipe out the human race. Taken together it makes the idea that the US would just sit around picking its ass as the Neuroi overrun Europe and the Middle East while Japan dispatches large amounts of military aid seem more then a little asinine.

It also does nothing to explain the profound lack of Russian witches when that nation is apparently the massive front line of the invasion. Then again it's sort of par for the course for the air battles over Russia to be ignored. Most of them were smaller scale and happened between small patrols and such, not as glamorous as a thousand B-17s in staggered formation fending off waves of attack German fighters like some aerial version of the Alamo.

I'd love to, but I can't receive History Channel. ;_;

Too bad.

Oh yes, and the Russians invading the US in World in Conflict made lots of sense.

No that was rather silly, but "Russia Invades Western Europe and starts World War III" is hardly that outlandish a scenario.

That aside, the 'US invades countries under the moniker of peace and safety for their resources' isn't all that left-field, considering the US has already done so.

Again I think this is best avoided discussing current politics is really the path to hell, I think we should drop this now frankly as it's badly OT and extremely likely to start a flame war. So let's agree to disagree I myself will not be responding to anymore posts on this topic.

I'd like more space sims myself, being the sci-fi junkie I am.

Well that genre is just deader then then dead sadly.

Red Alert, Command and Conquer, GTA, Yakuza, optionally evil games like KotoR and Fallout... no, I don't think I'm that wrong at all.

No I'm pretty much certain you are and frankly that list just helps prove my point.

C&C: All the canon endings have GDI win, and some fan fic writers determined to make everything “grimdark” aside GDI is clearly unquestionably the good guys.
RA: The Allies always wins in canon, so the other options effectively didn’t happen so far as Canon is concerned.
GTA: Violence level is variable you are a criminal, but it’s entirely possible to play most of the games with a very minimal amount of pointless violence and more or less kill only other criminals. Certainly there’s almost no logical reason to conduct the kinds of baby killing murder sprees it’s associated with as that actually just makes the game harder.
Yakuza: never heard of it unsurprisingly since it came out like three years ago and seems to have produced exactly zero buzz.
Fallout and KoToR: In both of these even if you were rather “evil” you still ended up killing the big bad and pretty much saving the world (Galaxy) thus making you more anti-hero then villian to my veiw. Besides that though in both of them the good endings are the canon ones as the follow ups can only work if that's the case.

So really what we’ve got is Yakuza (I can’t comment on that so I’ll assume you really are evil), GTA (Sorta to advance the plot you have to do some rather morally ambiguous things, but in theory you could just cruise the streets using it as a driving simulator), and then four games where the good guys win in Canon (All the RA games, 99% of C&C games, Both KoToR games and Fallout 1 and 2). So basically out of the six games you mentioned in four of them the Heroic ending are the "Real" ones which means any evil actions never acutally happened as far as canon is concerned.

I know that, I'm just saying that if for example Modern Warfare 2 comes out, do I have to play the 'brave US soldier saving the world' again? Or am I going to be able to play the brave German soldier? Or the brave Polish soldier?

Probably when Polish and Germans start making games.

Though honestly I’ve always found whining like this a little silly sort of like someone going “How come all the Heroes in Ancient Greek legend are from Greece? How come there aren’t any African or Persian heroes?!” Gee I wonder why… It’s also why despite my grumbling I can kind of understand why Japanese witches are so disproportionably represented in Strike Witches, and don’t mind that much. However the ratio is for my tastes a bit TOO skewed with regards to several nations at the moment in light of it’s supposed historical basis. (Mostly the US and Russia who ironically despite being the two largest powers in the war have a total of three canon witches between them)

Ahh~ will never happen, but I can dream, can't I?

Keep dreaming.

That's really what I liked most about IGLOO so far, that it showed that Mechs aren't invincible. They're still grossly overpowered compared to their opponents (which is natural, it is a Gundam series after all) but they don't shrug off tons and tons of tank barrages and treat them like chew-toys.

Well I frankly knew that already, everyone always seems to forget that for basically 90% of the One Year War the EF had nothing but tanks and planes and such, but was winning anyway.