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Old 2009-12-18, 03:06   Link #6949
Betteroffer
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Originally Posted by Nobodyman9 View Post
And Code Geass sure as hell had it's share of them (probably one of the reasons people hate it so much) The Karma Houdinis of Code Geass, IMO, include, but are not limited to:

-Nina
-Villetta
-Ougi
-Schneizel
-Rolo (Yes, he died, but it was with respect and meaning. Much better than he deserved).
-Cornelia
It could be argued that Cornelia had it pretty bad at the end. In addition to losing Euphemia in the first season, she has now lost her ENTIRE family save for Schneizel, the very member responsible for the others dying, and Nunally, though the ending does seem to imply that she got over it.

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Originally Posted by GundamFan0083 View Post
-and definitely Suzaku (having to be Zero until he dies does not excuse him murdering millions of people in Tokyo, he knew about his "you must live" Geass at that point and yet he still went ahead and piloted the FLEIJA armed Lancelot)
Suzaku's punishment is more than that. By definition (and Word of God) Suzaku's priority over everything else was death to escape from guilt and he is condemned to live for as long as possible thanks to the 'Live' command. Beyond that he has lost the woman he loved, his best friend (who he had forgiven, yet had to slay with his own hand), made the entire world his enemy, and yet will recieve praise and gratitude for the rest of his life for "Killing that bitch, Euphemia and that sicko Lelouch," as well as the 10 million innocents you mentioned due to his own ego. In truth, with the possible exception of Schneizel, Suzaku may actually have the single highest body count in all of Code Geass.

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Originally Posted by eaglei3 View Post
Her just nuking at random is the only reason I would add her in. There is a difference in warfare between soldiers and firing weapons of mass destruction that just erase away everything. She'd be on the very bottom of the list though for blindly pushing a button when Schneizel said to fire away. It was also pretty bad that she agreed to having Pandragon blown away, even if she was convinced that it was 'forewarned...'
Nunally planned to make Damocles the "symbol of hatred" for the world. She did this of her own free will as Lelouch (who was suddenly omniscient as his ability to predict Schneizel demonstrated) praised her for her resolve, rather than lament that she was a puppet til the end.

Though much like Kallen, she will have to spend her life perpetuating the lie about Lelouch in order to honor his name. Realistically, the life she will lead (Empress of half the world) should erode her heart and crush her psyche regardless of how peaceful the era is, but it is evident that realism and consistency took a back seat to make the last arc work, and give everyone their happy endings.

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Originally Posted by azul120 View Post
Nina was at the very least repentant, and did help avert the Pendragon threat, not to mention that she was used by Schneizel to an extent.

As for Schneizel, he was consigned to a Fate Worse Than Death.
She also tried to blow up Tokyo in season one, and spent much or R2 throwing Euphemia's name in Suzaku's face if he didn't cowtow to her, as well as raise a fit at Milly for not "ackowledging" her when she was trying to be her friend.

Schneizel by definition had no desires for anything including his own life. His fate is to be magically given a single all consuming desire, which he will get to spend the rest of his life fulfilling. A lifetime of guaranteed Self Actualization is not what I call punishment.

And. How. Has Noone. Mentioned. GINO?!?!?! *twitches violently*

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