(CR) Hibike! Euphonium Season 3

[Ragashingo]

Yeah... If the show leaves it at Kumiko apologizing as the thing that fixes everything I'll be very disappointed. Asuka was the only one making sense this episode.

[FlareKnight]

"Are you saying it's my fault?" Yes, Reina it kind of is! That early discussion was at least showing the potential of being contained and then you threw a freaking verbal grenade into the room! Everyone's supposed to take responsibility for how things are going and their own decisions except for Taki! Would everyone be ok if he just walked up and explained all his decisions? Maybe not. But some probably would if they had a logical explanation. They might still push for one audition going forward, but they could probably carry on this way. I get the idea that he'd be hurting his own authority by openly admitting to making a mistake (which he did here), but saying nothing at all and just trying to push forward wasn't necessarily a good call either.

And yeah, if they just carry on like this fixed everything it'll be disappointing. A full blown apology from Reina is the bare minimum. Frankly an apology from Taki to the executive staff would also be a good choice. If only because it would remind Reina that Taki is human and can make mistakes! And yes I think Reina deserves a double hit in that sense.

Obviously they'll get through this (not that we'll be able to tell since we never hear anyone play in this show)! But the issue going forward is how to get this disaster train back on track. Next episode has a lot of heavy lifting to do in order to not mess this up.

Also are we ever going to see this group actually perform in this season!? I know we've got to move and move fast, but dang it!

[Kazu-kun]

This isn't about Taki or about Reina. It's about Kumiko. Everything was going great for her when her role as a president and her role as a player were going in the same direction, but this was disrupted when she lost the audition. As a player, she's dissatisfied with Taki's decision, she wants to play the solo herself. That's her selfishness as a player. As a president, however, she should accept Taki's decision and do whatever she can to help everyone accept it as well and move on. She was between a rock and a hard place, which is symbolized by the cookie that Asuka was playing around with this episode.

What is the right thing to do in this case? Well, exactly what she did at the end. To suck up her pride as a player and do her job as president, namely help everyone move on for the sake of the club. Because this is what it takes to win. If they started compromising now, they would never win.

This is what Reina was trying to tell her all along. It's just that Reina sucks at communicating her feelings, but this is what she was trying to say.

[scififan]

I don't know why the members not dropped by Taki are also distrust about Taki's decision. It is surprising that Taki is still clueless about the club's commotion, especially after Shuiichi's shouting to Reina.

[Anh_Minh]

There's a lot I didn't like, but chief among them: Reina saying they "just have to trust Taki". Trust can be built or destroyed, but it can't just be decided like that.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

There's a lot I didn't like, but chief among them: Reina saying they "just have to trust Taki". Trust can be built or destroyed, but it can't just be decided like that.

If they can't trust their teacher, there's no way they can win. He's the one racking his brain to figure out how to make them win. Even Kumiko realized this when she talked to him. This is why she couldn't ask him why he chose Mayu for the solo. He's doing his best for the club. Meanwhile Kumiko was been selfish and shirking her duty as president.

Reina only asked two simple things from Kumiko:

1) Trust Taki.

2) Do your job as president. You're the one who can make everyone understand why we do these auditions. Go do it.

And once Kimiko did this, the situation was easily resolved.

Kumiko will have a chance to get the solo back for the next round. But right now she needed to put that aside and be the president the club needed.

[scififan]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

2) Do your job as president. You're the one who can make everyone understand why we do these auditions. Go do it.

And once Kimiko did this, the situation was easily resolved.

A lot members expressed their distrust to Taki. Kumiko wanted to trust him, but she just doesn't know how to justify it.



Kumiko does do her job as the president, although her bowing down apology seems too formal(like a top company executives when scandals were uncoverd). Due to her work, Kumiko got ill as Yuko from the previous year. In Yuko's case, she did not have enough experienced third year around to support her administrative tasks. Natsuki had to force Yuko to sleep to get better. Yuko and Natuski assigned some task to Mizore. They afraid it would be too much for Mizore, so they made Kumiko to be Mizore's assistant. Asuka paid the visit to Mizore and tutor her what to do. Asuka was the fast speaker, but Mizore is equally fast writer. So, Kumiko gained some experience from helping out the club activities. Kumiko also learned administrative work by became the section leader of euphonium. This year, Kumiko's main burden is from mean girl Reina's almost breaking first year members. Kumiko shows her regards to members.

When Kumiko joined the band, the band had 35 third year, 18 second year and 25 first year. The anime only showed 65 members. The band has grown to over 100 members, and Kyoani pushed its limit by showing 80 something. I think the big four of the ending theme shoulder burden, but it hit Kumiko the hardest. Shuichi also helped Kumiko a lot. So, he is jokingly said to be a convenient guy, probably a reference to convenience store.

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[Master_Yoma]

So everyone is on edge because of the pick and Taki isnt saying a thing to the band and Kumiko has no idea how to solve it

Well its good to see Asuka again

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by scififan

A lot members expressed their distrust to Taki.

Which is why Kumiko needed to explain to everyone why they chose to have the auditions. And once she did so, the situation was easily resolved.

Kumiko wanted to trust him, but she just doesn't know how to justify it.

Kumiko was dissatisfied simply because she wanted the solo. It's not that she doubted Taki or didn't trust him. She just didn't want to give up the solo. But she needed to give it up, because right now what the club needed is Kumiko to do her job as a president first and foremost, to prioritize the club over her personal wishes.

[HandofFate]

Really nice to see Asuka and Kaori again.
You can really see their changes, they have a much more adult and mature air to them now.

[BBOvenGuy]

Reina is not a people person. I would have thought that was obvious back in Season 1. But that doesn't mean she was wrong, only that she didn't express it very tactfully. Sometimes that's a good thing.

(I seem to remember Reina giving Mizore one of her blunt assessments in Liz and the Blue Bird, and it doing a lot of good...)

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Kumiko was dissatisfied simply because she wanted the solo. It's not that she doubted Taki or didn't trust him. She just didn't want to give up the solo. But she needed to give it up, because right now what the club needed is Kumiko to do her job as a president first and foremost, to prioritize the club over her personal wishes.

Yes, and Asuka was the one who was able to call her out on that. Principles aren't principles if you only stick to them when they benefit you. Kumiko had to give up trying to have it both ways.

And while all that was going on, Mayu came up with her own reason for trying her best. If she blew it and they lost, Kumiko would never have the chance to win the solo part back. Hey, if that's what works...

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

If they can't trust their teacher, there's no way they can win. He's the one racking his brain to figure out how to make them win. Even Kumiko realized this when she talked to him. This is why she couldn't ask him why he chose Mayu for the solo. He's doing his best for the club. Meanwhile Kumiko was been selfish and shirking her duty as president.

Reina only asked two simple things from Kumiko:

1) Trust Taki.

2) Do your job as president. You're the one who can make everyone understand why we do these auditions. Go do it.

And once Kimiko did this, the situation was easily resolved.

Kumiko will have a chance to get the solo back for the next round. But right now she needed to put that aside and be the president the club needed.

So what has Reina been doing? She's also an executive. Why didn't she make the first years trust Taki? Answer: she can't, because you can't build trust just be yelling at people to trust.

And it's not like Kumiko losing the soli is the only reason Taki isn't trusted. It's the one closest to the MC's heart, that's all.

And even with her speech, Kumiko didn't instill faith in her clubmates. She just managed to sidestep the issue.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

So what has Reina been doing? She's also an executive. Why didn't she make the first years trust Taki? Answer: she can't, because you can't build trust just be yelling at people to trust.

Reina sucks at communicating her feelings. That's nothing new. But at least she tried. What she called Kumiko out on is that Kumiko wasn't trying at all. She's the president and yet she was letting everything happen around her without trying to properly explain things to everyone.

And it's not like Kumiko losing the soli is the only reason Taki isn't trusted. It's the one closest to the MC's heart, that's all.

This arc was primarily about Kumiko being at a crossroad, having to choose between her duty as president and her personal desires as a player. Deep down she knew she had to explain everyone why they choose to hold the auditions, and convince them this is the right thing to do if they want to win, but if she did so she would have to give up the solo. That's why taking that decision was so hard for her. That was the whole point of this arc.

And even with her speech, Kumiko didn't instill faith in her clubmates. She just managed to sidestep the issue.

Her classmates didn't lack faith. They just were afraid. After all, participating in auditions is frightening. It means your position in the band is never secure. But Kumiko and the others chose to do things this way because it was necessary to win. That's what Kumiko needed to explain to everyone, and they understood, because everyone wants to win. That's a wish they all share. So the issue wasn't sidestepped. It was perfectly dealt with.