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Old 2006-07-21, 23:43   Link #1
Jonikiro
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A moral question (re: ero-games)

Question, quick and simple.

Is it moral to play Dating sims while having a real life girlfriend? Would that be considered cheating?
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Old 2006-07-21, 23:50   Link #2
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would reading a game walkthrough, be consider cheating?

Does that anwser your question. Besides it depends on the person.
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Old 2006-07-22, 00:06   Link #3
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I was playing galge when I was dating... Granted... she knew a lot about them as well, so...
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Old 2006-07-22, 00:42   Link #4
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Can I get a response from one of the women on this board? I'm really curious to see what you girls think about this.
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Old 2006-07-22, 00:47   Link #5
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I'd say not at all. You aren't having any relations with another person and are being faithful to your partner.
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Old 2006-07-22, 01:12   Link #6
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Can someone please explain why they see a moral dilemma? I don't get it.

I can see how it would be cheating if you played it with a girl. But, if you're playing it by yourself, I just don't see how it is any different from reading a pornographic book and/or playing with yourself.
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Old 2006-07-22, 03:38   Link #7
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I don't see how playing a game with ero content can constitute cheating, considering there is nothing even real in the game. Now, say it was a MMO-esque game, I could have a different opinion.

Hell, my girlfriend likes a few of the ero titles I play and plays them herself.
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Old 2006-07-22, 04:19   Link #8
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Originally Posted by DarkCntry
I don't see how playing a game with ero content can constitute cheating, considering there is nothing even real in the game. Now, say it was a MMO-esque game, I could have a different opinion.

Hell, my girlfriend likes a few of the ero titles I play and plays them herself.
W-woah there. Your girlfriend is okay with you playing Ero games... She plays them too? Well, I'm not gainsaying you, so don't fret. Hmm... Hmm... If I may ask, are the ero games reknown by any chance? I can understand playing the game for the story over the ero content anytime.

Now that I think about it, that sort of places my opinion down. I believe it's fine to play ero games even if you have a partner. Besides, you can cheat with your lover with a virtual person, deshou?
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Old 2006-07-22, 05:02   Link #9
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Not unless you like the girls in the game better than your real-life girlfriend.
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Old 2006-07-22, 13:33   Link #10
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Actually, my sister was really anal about pornography, ero games (especially) and all that with her boyfreind, mainly because she had thought that "He looks at pornography and plays those games because I'm not attractive enough."
So there were arguments *all the time* about it. (as my sis, her bf, and their child (now children) lived with me at one point. She also saw "talking to girls on the internet" (no matter which relation) as potential cheating as well, was really anal about it all around.

So it really depends on the person. I don't think normal women are like my sister (psycho paranoid...at least I hope not. <_<).
I don't play ero games myself, so I can't say I'm a master at the subject, but I thought I'd share the story. KNOW YOUR GIRLFREIND. :P
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Old 2006-07-22, 16:06   Link #11
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W-woah there. Your girlfriend is okay with you playing Ero games... She plays them too? Well, I'm not gainsaying you, so don't fret. Hmm... Hmm... If I may ask, are the ero games reknown by any chance? I can understand playing the game for the story over the ero content anytime.

Now that I think about it, that sort of places my opinion down. I believe it's fine to play ero games even if you have a partner. Besides, you can cheat with your lover with a virtual person, deshou?
Well, she has seen me and/or played everything from KimiNozo to AIR to Tsukihime and then even games from Illusion. It's a matter of having an open mind and understanding that these things aren't real.
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Old 2006-07-22, 17:08   Link #12
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If you committed a murder in your thoughts, would you be a murderer? Of course not. There's no such thing as "thought crimes". With these games, you click the mouse and look at a screen, so the enjoyment is mostly in the mind. It's not real, so don't worry about it.
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Old 2006-07-22, 18:19   Link #13
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Well, she has seen me and/or played everything from KimiNozo to AIR to Tsukihime and then even games from Illusion. It's a matter of having an open mind and understanding that these things aren't real.
Respect, respect, rspect, respect, respect, respect, rspect, respect, respect, respect, rspect, respect, respect, respect, rspect, respect, respect, respect, rspect, respect.

All of those games have a good story. Too bad when people think ero game, they think "trash" asap. Well, that's the general stigma, correct? Not that I know, but I used to think that way until I watched the animes of the games you mentioned.

Maybe for the guys that have problems, show your girlfriends an ero-game that is intellectually stimulating... as well as strimulating in other areas. <--- Uh....
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Old 2006-07-22, 19:51   Link #14
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Question, quick and simple.

Is it moral to play Dating sims while having a real life girlfriend? Would that be considered cheating?
Your either a virgin or a pussy
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Old 2006-07-22, 22:16   Link #15
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Your either a virgin or a pussy


your either a kid whoms parents didn't teach any proper manners or a dick.
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Old 2006-07-23, 01:12   Link #16
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Your either a virgin or a pussy
- Why the hell does everyone assume that just because you play a game about dating girls, you're an absolute loser in romance, or else a queer? Does playing FPS games mean I've got some deep-seated desire to re-enact the Columbine Massacre?

I know you're probably too retroactively stupid to be able to read the rest of my post, but the thing is, games are okay as long as you know the difference between the game and real life. Which is why I told the original poster that he shouldn't worry--as long as he knows he's playing a game and not actually 'falling in love' with the game characters.

And all points considered, seeing that you're making such a big issue about you having been deflowered, thus superior to the rest of us, I'm wondering if the person with REAL reality issues isn't you.

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Old 2006-07-23, 02:44   Link #17
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If you committed a murder in your thoughts, would you be a murderer?
Unless the person in question is Suzumiya Haruhi

back to topic

Lets put it this way, my girlfriend is into ero-game. I (for some stupid reason) cannot accept that in anyway and would consider that cheating. Even though statistics shows that 99.999999% of the male population do not regard dating sim as a form of cheating, as long as i cannot accept it, the relationship probably will not last.
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Old 2006-07-23, 03:04   Link #18
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I dont think its considered cheating, because it are 2 seperate things.

Dating sims are kinda like porn with a great story line(ofcourse there are bad ones). So it depends what your GF thinks if you get trouble. Does she accept porn or not? It depends on the personality for the most part, but most of the time you can make a joke about and laugh it off. (^^,) Lots of girls are also mature enough to think that porn isnt a big thing, cause which normal straight guy doesnt have some porn? xD
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Unless the person in question is Suzumiya Haruhi

back to topic

Lets put it this way, my girlfriend is into ero-game. I (for some stupid reason) cannot accept that in anyway and would consider that cheating. Even though statistics shows that 99.999999% of the male population do not regard dating sim as a form of cheating, as long as i cannot accept it, the relationship probably will not last.
I dont know why you shouldnt accept it. Dont worry the real deal is always better then sims. xD To tell the truth Im not sure what I would think, because I never had a GF into ero-games(or I just havent found out). ^^;;;;;
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Old 2006-07-23, 09:34   Link #19
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Would there be a way to go around introducing her to ero-games? She likes games and anime to an extent that isn't exactly earth-shattering, so it would be kinda cool if we could play games like this together. Seeing as I can beat her in many games, and the only manga she reads is Death Note (yay), I'm always looking for other ways to introduce her to THE SCIENTIFIC WAYS OF COOL!

So yeah. Any ideas?

P.S. Thanks for all your input so far, it really helps. Like, really. Not like when other people say, "Oh, thanks lol I'm not sincere bla," because I really am. Namean?
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Old 2006-07-23, 09:54   Link #20
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The worse thing you could do is invite her over to your place innocently and shove the game into her lap. I think the best way would really be to openly bring up the topic to her and discuss it like adults. If she doesnt like you doing it; and if you really love her, then you'll stop wont you? WONT YOU? Jk.

But seriously yes, talk to her about it, as another poster said, Know her. Primarily get to know how she feels about games like that and then work from there.
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