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Mephisto2k · 2007-07-15, 04:40

I was looking through this forum and there were some slightly similar threads but no real solutions.

The problem is playing softsubs with vlc (got windows xp, sp2).
With vlc they are always standart white and sometimes overlay each other at long phrases. Translator notes, comments and background TV/Radio translations are not shown on top like how its supposed to be, but on the buttom like normal subs, what causes them to overlay each other again which makes everything unreadable.
When my Windows media player10/11 was still working I had no problems with it; even softsubs had nice colours and forms and everything was as its supposed to be.
This means somethings gotto be wrong with vlc.

I dont wanna recommendations like cccp classic player, but rather I want to use vlc and get this thing fixed.
Googeling for it didnt get me far, same as playing around with vlc's subtitle options and filters.
Maybe some of you guys can tell me of a way to fix this.

Cruzz · 2007-07-15, 04:53

There isn't a way to fix it. VLC's sub support sucks. You either live with it or use another player.

Mplayer is more or less the only good alternative if you refuse to install separate codecs. Google will no doubt locate it for you.

Potatochobit · 2007-07-15, 05:48

isn't mplayer for linux users?

what's wrong with CCCP? it doesnt use too much of the computer resources.

VLC player does not have the latest streaming sub (soft sub) support. The player's internal software has not been updated by the maker. if the video you are watching is hard encoded, it will show up fine. but if its a soft sub then it can display improperly.

if you really must use VLC player for your portable device or whatever reason, you will have to 'hard' encode the video yourself if the show you have downloaded uses softsubs. of course, in the end you would basically be downloading CCCP seperately to use those programs

martino · 2007-07-15, 05:51

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...709#post864709
Maybe in a few months VLC's subtitle support will be fixed. People are apparently working on it, however despite that fact it's still considered to be a "fail" player (buggy decoders and such monstrosities).

I personally recommend the following build of mplayer for Windows: http://www.cccp-project.net/smf/index.php?topic=811.0
I've been using it for over two or three months now and it hasn't failed me a single time. Just make sure to tweak the configuration file properly so that you get the most out of the sweetness of softsubbed anime and embedded fonts. ^_^

However for the easiest solution, I'll recommend what you don't want to hear; Get CCCP!

***GHDpro*** · 2007-07-15, 09:06

The reason WMP displayed the subs properly is because it loads VSFilter (as installed by CCCP among others).

VLC uses it's own internal filters and codecs for everything, and as you have noticed, soft-subtitle support is worthless. No external filter or codec will make VLC display subtitles any better.

Thus, unless you learn how to program and fix VLC yourself, there is no way to fix VLC soft-subtitle support yourself. Install CCCP or wait until VLC is fixed... someday.

hobbes_fan · 2007-07-15, 12:43

I don't understand the concept of not using media player classic over vlc. It's about the same size and much more useful. There is no other way, either learn to code, the source code is available from videolan.org, learn to speak japanese or whatever language that file is in or use another player. 2 options will take a couple of months to a year, one takes 5 mins.

Mplayer is available for Windows XP etc etc as well as Linux. Media Player Classic is only available for windows. VLC is available for nearly everything.

VLC is a good failsafe, but as a primary player well its got issues

emptyeighty · 2007-07-15, 13:05

MPC by itself is a _lot_ smaller than vlc. In fact even the whole CCCP package is smaller than vlc. Not that a few megs matter on today's systems.

Mephisto2k · 2007-07-15, 16:58

thank you guys for all the infos. it was very useful. In fact I already installed cccp befor starting this thread but hesitated to use it. I just somehow got used to using vlc and got tired of always using different players depending on hard or soft subs.
But as it seems vlc simply sucks with softsubs and even if someone of the vlc staff is working on it, it will probably still take its time till its fixed.

Since there is no real fix for it I guess i got to try out different players like media player classic after all.
Thanks for the help on this though.

2007-07-15, 04:40	Link #1
Mephisto2k anime4life Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Age: 36	Crappy subtitles with vlc I was looking through this forum and there were some slightly similar threads but no real solutions. The problem is playing softsubs with vlc (got windows xp, sp2). With vlc they are always standart white and sometimes overlay each other at long phrases. Translator notes, comments and background TV/Radio translations are not shown on top like how its supposed to be, but on the buttom like normal subs, what causes them to overlay each other again which makes everything unreadable. When my Windows media player10/11 was still working I had no problems with it; even softsubs had nice colours and forms and everything was as its supposed to be. This means somethings gotto be wrong with vlc. I dont wanna recommendations like cccp classic player, but rather I want to use vlc and get this thing fixed. Googeling for it didnt get me far, same as playing around with vlc's subtitle options and filters. Maybe some of you guys can tell me of a way to fix this. __________________ <Animeph Winter 2011 Season New Anime List>

2007-07-15, 05:51	Link #4
martino makes no files now Join Date: May 2006	http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...709#post864709 Maybe in a few months VLC's subtitle support will be fixed. People are apparently working on it, however despite that fact it's still considered to be a "fail" player (buggy decoders and such monstrosities). I personally recommend the following build of mplayer for Windows: http://www.cccp-project.net/smf/index.php?topic=811.0 I've been using it for over two or three months now and it hasn't failed me a single time. Just make sure to tweak the configuration file properly so that you get the most out of the sweetness of softsubbed anime and embedded fonts. ^_^ However for the easiest solution, I'll recommend what you don't want to hear; Get CCCP! __________________ "Light and shadow don't battle each other, because they're two sides of the same coin"

2007-07-15, 16:58	Link #8
Mephisto2k anime4life Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Age: 36	thank you guys for all the infos. it was very useful. In fact I already installed cccp befor starting this thread but hesitated to use it. I just somehow got used to using vlc and got tired of always using different players depending on hard or soft subs. But as it seems vlc simply sucks with softsubs and even if someone of the vlc staff is working on it, it will probably still take its time till its fixed. Since there is no real fix for it I guess i got to try out different players like media player classic after all. Thanks for the help on this though. __________________ <Animeph Winter 2011 Season New Anime List>

2007-07-15, 04:53	Link #2
Cruzz Europeon Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Yurup Age: 37	There isn't a way to fix it. VLC's sub support sucks. You either live with it or use another player. Mplayer is more or less the only good alternative if you refuse to install separate codecs. Google will no doubt locate it for you.

2007-07-15, 05:48	Link #3
Potatochobit Certified Organic Join Date: Dec 2005	isn't mplayer for linux users? what's wrong with CCCP? it doesnt use too much of the computer resources. VLC player does not have the latest streaming sub (soft sub) support. The player's internal software has not been updated by the maker. if the video you are watching is hard encoded, it will show up fine. but if its a soft sub then it can display improperly. if you really must use VLC player for your portable device or whatever reason, you will have to 'hard' encode the video yourself if the show you have downloaded uses softsubs. of course, in the end you would basically be downloading CCCP seperately to use those programs

2007-07-15, 09:06	Link #5
*GHDpro* Administrator Administrator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Netherlands Age: 45	The reason WMP displayed the subs properly is because it loads VSFilter (as installed by CCCP among others). VLC uses it's own internal filters and codecs for everything, and as you have noticed, soft-subtitle support is worthless. No external filter or codec will make VLC display subtitles any better. Thus, unless you learn how to program and fix VLC yourself, there is no way to fix VLC soft-subtitle support yourself. Install CCCP or wait until VLC is fixed... someday.

2007-07-15, 12:43	Link #6
hobbes_fan You could say..... Join Date: Apr 2007	I don't understand the concept of not using media player classic over vlc. It's about the same size and much more useful. There is no other way, either learn to code, the source code is available from videolan.org, learn to speak japanese or whatever language that file is in or use another player. 2 options will take a couple of months to a year, one takes 5 mins. Mplayer is available for Windows XP etc etc as well as Linux. Media Player Classic is only available for windows. VLC is available for nearly everything. VLC is a good failsafe, but as a primary player well its got issues

2007-07-15, 13:05	Link #7
emptyeighty Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	MPC by itself is a _lot_ smaller than vlc. In fact even the whole CCCP package is smaller than vlc. Not that a few megs matter on today's systems.