2008-04-14, 21:26 | Link #601 |
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Hardy Heron (8.04)
Hi, all.
Has anyone played with Hardy Heron (Ubuntu 8.04) yet? I have been holding off on upgrading only because I don't have the bandwidth to do a full upgrade at this point, plus I have other events in my life which are coming up, and I kinda need working computers in the meantime. :) As of this writing, its release date is a mere ten days away. And this one, for those concerned, is their newest LTS release, with Dapper Drake being their next-most-recent LTS release. Look forward to hearing from you folks! --Ian. |
2008-04-14, 23:51 | Link #602 | |
Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!!
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For me I'll look forward to seeing how the upgrade works since I have a fully encrypted disk, of course after I've backed up I've very excited! PS you might be able to get the full release a few days early from the staging area http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ Just keep an eye on it and remember that there should be no other releases apart from the final
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2008-04-15, 00:05 | Link #603 | |
Gregory House
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Probably won't care, though. I promised myself I'd test-drive KDE 4 till the next release. I hope I'm not in for a world of pain. BTW, IRJustMan: Hardy is supposed to be a "stable as a rock" release, hence the name. They're supposed to add few features and focus more on fixing the stability issues Gutsy had. Me, I like living on the fast lane. That's why I'm getting KDE 4
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2008-04-15, 00:53 | Link #604 |
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Ubuntu + Fluxbox is awesome.
Except I can't copy and paste to and from terminals (through control-C and V). Does anyone have any ideas about that? Those two shortcuts are in fact in the shortcut-key file, so I don't know what exactly is wrong. I'll be wiping my laptop soon into 8.04 and that would probably work then, but I'm just curious. |
2008-04-15, 01:05 | Link #605 | |
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The changes with Nautilus and gvfs (I think that is what it is called), looks good, but I'll spend more time on getting the feel of it properly when the final release is out @claies - try control shift c and control shift v
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2008-04-15, 01:09 | Link #606 |
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Nice, Transmission. I thought it was an OS X-only client but if it's also a Linux one it'd probably explain why I see other Transmission users every now and then. The client has come a very long way since its beginnings, particularly in the UI area. The last update made some massive changes in terms of flashiness. I'd imagine that the OS X and Linux versions look a bit different but it's a great client overall. I haven't been missing uTorrent as of a few months ago, and I haven't opened Azureus since around then as well.
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2008-04-15, 02:54 | Link #607 |
Not that simple.
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This is, as IRJustman said. LTS release and it will be supported for 5 years.
What I noticed first when I installed beta, the overall speed of connecting the server via ssh got slower than the previous version (I would say...lagging).... Maybe this is due to upgrade issues or bugs. *sigh* I will reinstall and reconfigure and will see what happens..
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2008-04-15, 02:59 | Link #608 | |
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2008-04-15, 14:03 | Link #611 |
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Whee, I was distracted and not really paying attention to Hardy Heron ... I've acquired a spare laptop and am interested to see if it "unbuntu's" well --- I'll set it aside for the release.
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2008-04-22, 16:43 | Link #612 |
Gregory House
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It looks like PulseAudio is still a pile of steaming poopoo according to some bug reports I've been seeing lately. Fortunately it seems ALSA is still the default choice, but I'm wondering why they decided to include PA directly with the Hardy release. Nothing wrong with saving a few megs and leaving it in the repos, is there?
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2008-04-22, 18:32 | Link #613 |
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PulseAudio supports networked audio distribution. It appeared in Fedora 8 and doesn't seem to interfere with my workstations' audio. I suppose if I ever have a big party it might be nice to distribute sound around my house over wifi, but I don't see that happening soon. Still I haven't seen much effect from having pulseaudio on my F8 systems running KDE 3.5.9 and ALSA.
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2008-04-22, 18:36 | Link #614 |
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The bugs I see have to do with audio stuttering under heavy CPU load (especially noticeable in old CPUs, of course), speculations pointed at PulseAudio's arbitrarily small buffer size. I don't know much about the technicalities of the issue, but the bug was confirmed several times at Launchpad, and I saw someone at Slashdot saying that he had been having problems with PulseAudio in Fedora, too.
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2008-04-22, 18:53 | Link #615 |
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I did a routine update of my VMs and the Kubuntu one broke. I guess there was a kernel update recently - GRUB tries to load it and I get an error 15. What was the fix for that business again?
Kubuntu's updater has also been tripping on itself - it'll inform me that there are updates ready, so I click it and then it tells me about how there's already an instance running (or some such thing). Not sure if it's misbehaving due to the VM environment but Fedora has been a bit better thus far.
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2008-04-22, 19:02 | Link #616 | |
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BTW, that's a weird problem. We haven't received such complaints at our local mailing list during the last kernel update--I suspect it has to do with the VM software itself.
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2008-04-22, 19:11 | Link #617 |
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Upgrade to Hardy Heron update
Hi, all.
Upgraded Nanoha, my local fileserver, to Hardy. It seemed to be a stroll in the park other than the fact it had a buttload of files to download. The biggest problem I have with it is that it was just about to gank one program I have used for many years, packaged as "ncftp2". The only real problem it has is that it can't transfer files bigger than 2GB. Yes, they say that "ncftp" (which is NcFTP 3.x) is "better", but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I absolutely HATE its interface, both in-program and from the shell prompt. *sigh* Guess I need to keep a deb handy since it's been removed for Hardy, which REALLY ticks me off! Meanwhile, upgrading my Linux desktop which runs Kubuntu. --Ian. |
2008-04-22, 19:24 | Link #618 | |
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I'm not sure how I'd edit the GRUB config file from the VM, either; I can mount ISOs but it boots the OS pretty much instantly. Hmm, maybe run the update and then fix GRUB before rebooting...? I don't actually know that it's a kernel update causing this - I think I had 60+ (maybe 100+) updates waiting for me since I haven't opened the Kubuntu VM in a while. Could've been anything. I'm wary of running that many updates at once because invariably something is going to get messed up and I won't know what it was, but it's largely unavoidable. I've reverted the Kubuntu VM back to before those updates, but I guess I'll stick with Fedora as my main Linux for now. Hopefully it won't run into the GRUB issue either...
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2008-04-22, 21:49 | Link #619 |
Not that simple.
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I believe the development of GRUB 2.0 is currently on alpha. You can download it and try it. But I see no documents are ever done yet.
I am kinda confused to what you said about GRUB problem. You mean that the VM does not allow you to boot via liveCD? For the updater problem, I see this happens to users who use KDE as their X-window environment. Try.... dpkg --configure -a Btw, reinstallation of Ubuntu fixed ssh problem for me. That was just weird.
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2008-04-22, 22:05 | Link #620 |
AS Oji-kun
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@Ledgem
I'm guessing that the kernel module for your VM wasn't built for the kernel you're now using. (I've had this problem with VirtualBox when the kernel was automatically upgraded.) You're probably faced with compiling the module yourself (if the source code is available like it is for VirtualBox), reverting to the previous working kernel, or trying to find a new binary module that's compatible with the new kernel. Frankly, I'd go the reversion route. Most kernel updates are fixing obscure security or other problems that my machines won't ever face, or they're adding new features that I don't need. I don't let Fedora upgrade the kernels routinely (by excluding them in the fedora.repo file) because too many things like VMs or video drivers can break.
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