2008-06-05, 22:05 | Link #1221 | |
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Now Obama, I think that he is the best thing that US go right now as a candidate. The US imo need to change their direction of their foreign policy, it might be more of an idealistic view but sometime diplomatic methods do work. Also the tags on this thread are quiet amusing.
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2008-06-05, 22:09 | Link #1223 | ||
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2008-06-05, 22:31 | Link #1226 |
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Kennedy got through us the cuban missile crisis, and also started us on the way to the moon. Great things can happen when you have a goal and you strive towards it.
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2008-06-05, 22:32 | Link #1227 | ||
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Ford and GM absolutely spend an enormous chunk of of every car purchase toward employee benefits, but at their size they should be getting the best rates around. The reason they spend so much is because of union action. Not that I'm saying unions or bad, but particular ones are just as bad as the companies they are boxing with. Toyota, Honda, and Nissan, for example, actually have as much or more production done right in the US with union labor and don't have nearly the problems GM and Ford do here. Abuse on insurance rates (group versus individual, etc) is absolutely a travesty, but I would say that's due to very poor regulations, and not inherent to a non-government-managed system. While not perfect, things were a lot better some years ago. Group buys are an absolute crock and should be outlawed, and the mandates on employer provided health insurance (the current ones being courtesy of the Clintons) absolutely destroy any ability for competition to keep rates low for individuals. And the farther out of the responsibility of the individual, the less accountability there is for an insurance company to do their job, which in turn causes hospitals to raise their rates... which causes insurance companies to raise their rates... and so the circle continues. That is my largest objection to the Clinton and Obama plans... They take us into that downward spiral at an even faster rate. Our current system is broken, without a doubt, but these halfway-socialized-but-still-run-by-major-even-more-consolidated-corporations things sound insane to me. Not that supporting major corporate consolidation and squeezing out individual and small business advancement and saying it's "for the little guy" hasn't been the Democratic party modus operandi for years now... Quote:
Obama's words, though, stand on their own. You might read up on "black liberation theology" and read from Obama's books, "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance" and "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream". His driving agendas become much more clear this way, and it sheds very different light on his words (and his relationships) than one might see from first impression. |
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2008-06-05, 22:37 | Link #1228 | |
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The Cuban Crisis and the quest to the moon were a product of the times. The US chose to combat communism globally, and she needed to win the moon race, since the Soviets won part one. As for the crisis, luck played its part too. The 1960s saw the Sino-Soviet split (undetected by the US until much later), and the US never seemed to drop the wrong idea that communism was monolithic. In fact, treating everything as monolithic seems to have been one of the wrong lessons the US took away from their victory in the Cold War. |
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2008-06-05, 22:47 | Link #1229 | |
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2. The Moon? I'm sure any other president who is facing a Soviet Space Program would have gone for such a thing. We might add how not noticing the Sino-Soviet Split and escalating the Vietnam war is something that goes against Kennedy. In short: Kennedy was a disaster. In a way, his untimely death ensured that he wouldn't be remembered as a complete fiasco. |
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2008-06-05, 22:54 | Link #1231 | |
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2008-06-05, 23:01 | Link #1232 |
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Your right. Mindlessly going to war with countries is a much better policy. I mean, Look at the cold war, it was all talk and look how that turned out... oh wait, US came out on top and the soviets fell, bad example? We really need more Iraq wars and gulf wars, they were good for America.
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2008-06-05, 23:03 | Link #1233 | |
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The Cold War ended because of internal problems, so that's irrelevent. |
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2008-06-05, 23:06 | Link #1234 | |
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For those reasons, it really is a bad example for your point.
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2008-06-05, 23:07 | Link #1235 | |
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OK, i admit my use of the cold war really was a bad example, but the point is mindlessly throwing troops and waiting until other countries fall to your every demand doesn't work. You have to take a strong stance and start to talk to these leaders instead of burying your head in the sand. |
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2008-06-05, 23:11 | Link #1236 | |
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2. Yes, because Obama doesn't know a damn thing about foreign affairs, especially considering his foreign policy plans. Almost every point is a liberalist view of international affairs, without almost any sense of realism. |
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2008-06-05, 23:17 | Link #1237 | |
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2008-06-05, 23:20 | Link #1238 | |
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2008-06-05, 23:26 | Link #1240 |
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Nope, it'll be stabler. That's why people are idiots: they believe the world is simple enough to think that if no money is going into the war, it'll all come back into the government's pocket. It doesn't. You have to pay for much more for oil, you have to pay much more for food, you have to pay much more for "Homeland Security". Not only that, you'll have to face a economic rundown by wrecking almost every country's economy, face starvations of hundreds of millions by subsidizing biofuel, and face a more anarchic world. Tell me which world is better.
Oh, and this is under the assumption that Obama does manage to get the troops out. |
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