Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Character Creation and Discussion (second reincarnation)

[MeisterBabylon]

Read the pair of pure pot's (pun intended! ) skills a little closer, and I found 2 things that might need work:

- Marie's ability to instantly strip barrier defence. Considering how mages usually swear by barriers and barriers alone, isn't this a bit haxx? Not only that underestimating how barriers themselves work?
- Juana's ability to ignore all armor and invulnerable saves in Phasing Dart by simply teleporting into the target like Kuroko. Is there a limit to this phasing ability, or can it 1-shot any living person/thing cored by a living person?

[JamesEdwards]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Just to make sure I get it right: Advance Through Fire and Manuver essentially is bounding overwatch and moving towards the enemy while trading fire & making use of available cover, correct?

Yup, you pretty much got the idea, e.g. One element (or entire fireteam) provides suppressive fire for the next element in the fireteam (or the other fireteams in the squad) to move up, then the latter repeats the favor, and so on. Of course, they don't have to do it going "face to face" with the enemy, a la Gears of War, as obviously, the ideal thing to do is to flank the opposition completely. Granted, the Heavy would be screwed the moment she pops up from out of cover and finds a pair of or even just one "Shotgun" pointing in her face at point blank. Works on the grubs every time, even though it is insane as hell to advance in solo by yourself.

Pray your buddy is actually providing some awesome covering fire, so that when you do get there, a grub does not just flank you by jumping over his piece of cover, advancing, look to his left and - oh, there's a nice GEAR; let's put some rounds into him. Guaranteed to make your day horrible.

Now, there's a lot of other things you can be doing to spice up ATFM. "Grenades". "Smokescreen". "Designated Marksman". "Sniper". Respond with your own "Heavy". Put enough "Fire" down range and she'll be forced to find a new piece of cover. Or just call in for "Air Support" since this chick does not have a lot of mobility.

Again, alone she is not that dangerous, that is she's not anymore deadly than a Grinder or Boomer (both of which are quite fatal to the average grunt standing in the open), but with her partner, ho boy, numbers really don't matter too much. After all, she's got unlimited ammo, and all she has to do is keep shooting up into the sky and let Juana guide the "rockets" in. At that point, it doesn't matter what kind of cover you got, and even tanks are screwed if they take a direct top-down attack, provided the "round" makes it past the tank's AMS coverage. Mounting reactive armor or slats up there might not be a bad idea either, just to increase your survivability.

But, yeah...that's enough theoretical warfighting from me.

Oh, and since Girugamesh brought up the topic...

Disruptor Cloud: A skill that usually fires from the upper tube. Upon reaching the target it detonates into a cloud of sparkling disruptive particles, rendering any opposing shields useless almost without any knowledge of the shielding targets, since the shield does not go down. This spell was proven to take down Lambda Fielded Targets and on AMF as well. Usually fired with the a normal lower tube shot for the complete effect of disrupt-destroy.

Honestly, looking at it... It's not OP at all. If anything, it's really just a man-made AMF "smoke"screen mortar. All you'd have to do is just move out of the affected area and your Barriers will continue working just fine. Alternatively, if you know what principle this disruptor cloud works on, an appropriate counter can be developed too. And honestly, Marie won't fire her follow up shot immediately, since she has to wait a few precious seconds for the cloud to disperse out into optimal volume, not as big an issue in enclosed spaces, but in an open air environment, this tactic will only work once.

Oh, and in its present form, the disruptor cloud is virtually useless against Aerial Mages or Mages who have instant movement spells. All you have to do is haul jets. That said, if you're big, slow, and dumb. Yeah, you're about to have a long day in the emergency room.

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by JamesEdwards

Yup, you pretty much got the idea, e.g. One element (or entire fireteam) provides suppressive fire for the next element in the fireteam (or the other fireteams in the squad) to move up, then the latter repeats the favor, and so on. Of course, they don't have to do it going "face to face" with the enemy, a la Gears of War, as obviously, the ideal thing to do is to flank the opposition completely. Granted, the Heavy would be screwed the moment she pops up from out of cover and finds a pair of or even just one "Shotgun" pointing in her face at point blank. Works on the grubs every time, even though it is insane as hell to advance in solo by yourself.

*nods*

Pretty much what I try to do in online "multiplayer" for COD4, although given the fact that somehow I always end up in team deathmatches which devolve into every man for himself... Assault Platoon (consisting of two 5-man squads - yeah, they're really fireteams, but the vote was made and Squad sounded cooler than Team to the grunts, so they went with that) typically does that.

...what sometimes also happens is Franz acting as a distraction and advancing alone to allow his platoon to flank and surround. Erick has noted that he has a tendancy to flank and surround alot...

Pray your buddy is actually providing some awesome covering fire, so that when you do get there, a grub does not just flank you by jumping over his piece of cover, advancing, look to his left and - oh, there's a nice GEAR; let's put some rounds into him. Guaranteed to make your day horrible.

The OFM have to train alot to make sure that this doesn't happen to them. Given what we see of TSAB tactics... it's very, very easy for an OFM grunt to fall into a feeling of superiority. Which is not something you want when you're a B-rank guy who's OPFOR against a bunch of C, B and A-ranked magical girls, in a universe where girls >> guys...

On the other hand, generally this isn't really much of an issue for Bravo Squad, since they have Johnson and Master Chief. Johnson supports and Chief assaults and the rest of Bravo picks up the bodies and carries their ammo. (on the other hand, except AA-ranked Johnson and almost-A-ranked Leo Kozlov, everyone else in Bravo is B-ranked. Even Chief. But then, does he really need magic?)

Now, there's a lot of other things you can be doing to spice up ATFM. "Grenades". "Smokescreen". "Designated Marksman". "Sniper". Respond with your own "Heavy". Put enough "Fire" down range and she'll be forced to find a new piece of cover. Or just call in for "Air Support" since this chick does not have a lot of mobility.

Yep, that's what I was thinking as well.... 'cept the OFM use actual grenades - and the Air Wing girls are intended to be human little birds (yep, the OFM does the MAGTF of the micro scale. AP to AW is like Delta to 160 SOAR. Only with the occasional upskirt ). Hmmm.

Hmmmm.... something that's made me think: why the heck do I have my guys using normal grenades (smoke/flash/wp) when we can do magical equivalents? Baka. *facepalm*

...right, cultural issues... (and the fact that I was playing Rainbow Six Vegas and SOCOM Tactical Strike at the time...)

*me cackles as he recalls his rewrite of the ep where the Numbers first showed up: the box that Tre opens isn't empty, buts a primed CS/itching gas grenade. (The original draft was a frag or a WP, but I was talked out of it after it was pointed out to me that that would turn the people in the area into red smears. And given that we need the Numbers, especially in those smooooooth, sexy bodygloves that accentuate sensations when rubbed... sorry, that was the Eva plugsuit in Higher Learning...). Well, either that or a flashbang; the purpose of that grenade left behind by Leo Kozlov is just as a parting shot, to add insult to injury. (My rewrite for that ep also involves artillery spotting and Leo calling in CAS and lasing targets for Naomi and her partner Kris, while Taufan shows the Nano cast that snipers can actually kick ass, not just support).

Again, alone she is not that dangerous, that is she's not anymore deadly than a Grinder or Boomer (both of which are quite fatal to the average grunt standing in the open), but with her partner, ho boy, numbers really don't matter too much. After all, she's got unlimited ammo, and all she has to do is keep shooting up into the sky and let Juana guide the "rockets" in. At that point, it doesn't matter what kind of cover you got, and even tanks are screwed if they take a direct top-down attack, provided the "round" makes it past the tank's AMS coverage. Mounting reactive armor or slats up there might not be a bad idea either, just to increase your survivability.

True, there is that - but then that's where the various aspects of Magic Spectrum Warfare come into play; EW mages working off magic emissions to try and pinpoint the target, sniper teams looking to find her and of course, the hotblooded CO who willingly makes himself a distraction and a target, in violation of god knows how much doctrine, in order to ensure that she's taken out...

Magic Spectrum Warfare. Sounds like a winning title for something at least...

A Study in Adaptation of Conventional Arms Infantry Tactics to Magical Spectrum Warfare, by Sgt Naomi Jaeger, final exam thesis, TSAB Officer Candidate School, MC0077.

But, yeah...that's enough theoretical warfighting from me.

You went to SOI, right? Even if what you got is theoretical, it's fuckloads above me who only can halfass in FPS games and reading lots of books.

Honestly, looking at it... It's not OP at all. If anything, it's really just a man-made AMF "smoke"screen mortar. All you'd have to do is just move out of the affected area and your Barriers will continue working just fine. Alternatively, if you know what principle this disruptor cloud works on, an appropriate counter can be developed too. And honestly, Marie won't fire her follow up shot immediately, since she has to wait a few precious seconds for the cloud to disperse out into optimal volume, not as big an issue in enclosed spaces, but in an open air environment, this tactic will only work once.

Oh, and in its present form, the disruptor cloud is virtually useless against Aerial Mages or Mages who have instant movement spells. All you have to do is haul jets. That said, if you're big, slow, and dumb. Yeah, you're about to have a long day in the emergency room.

Not to mention the fact that she can't keep firing "smoke" forever; check this page. http://www.v-ctc.com/v-ctc/expert_solution.htm While it's a simulation, it is rather instructive and edifying... besides, every round of smoke she fires is one less round that can hurt the enemy, and ties her up for a while: when she fires "smoke", the enemy advances, covered by her smoke. Course it's up to her spotter to help protect her...

...only thing I felt a little disappointed about was that the disrupt spell doesn't actually disrupt the barrier jacket. That would have been awesome.

[LimitedEternal]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

...only thing I felt a little disappointed about was that the disrupt spell doesn't actually disrupt the barrier jacket. That would have been awesome.

Oh yes, heaven forbid we have your army of stripper-guns parading around the galaxy...

[Wild Goose]

We can just make the numbers bodyglove standard issue, along with miniskirts as standard issue.

[JamesEdwards]

Suddenly, I feel a little disappointed that basic tactical doctrine in Enforcer-verse makes it mandatory to still wear basic body armor when in a "field environment", underneath your barrier jacket. Can you imagine the sexiness that would result from something like Negi Springfield's legendary sneeze, under those-

*A KNIFE suddenly "sprouts" from J-Easy's forehead. WRYYYYYYYY!*

[Wild Goose]

Body armor would still chafe, so at the least they'd still be wearing underwear with the body armor, at least so that the sensitive parts don't hurt. On the other hand body armor + bra & panties + nothing else (or maybe thigh socks, can't go wrong with zettai ryouiki, it always makes things better) = hot.

*looks up and sees orbiting AC-130* Aw crap.

[MeisterBabylon]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

We can just make the numbers bodyglove standard issue, along with miniskirts as standard issue.

Good thing you aren't a fashion designer...

Originally Posted by JamesEdwards

Suddenly, I feel a little disappointed that basic tactical doctrine in Enforcer-verse makes it mandatory to still wear basic body armor when in a "field environment", underneath your barrier jacket. Can you imagine the sexiness that would result from something like Negi Springfield's legendary sneeze, under those-

*A KNIFE suddenly "sprouts" from J-Easy's forehead. WRYYYYYYYY!*

Let's not get ahead of ourselves; barrier jackets are so full of convenient contradictions that any attempt by us to make it work fails. Likewise, any attempt to make them fail will also fail, because the convenient contradictions then come to their defence by making sure we do not know exactly how they work.

Hence why I'm allergic to prepositions that forcefields and jackets can be bypassed easily, simply because we cannot agree how they work and therefore cannot agree how they can fail.

On another note, its rather evident that BJs are multi-layered defences. It is only proper to mix summoned components with solid magically-reinforced physical components as well. Thus we have people like Vice who don't even have a magic suit but instead the latter kind. For a extreme example, we have OCs, especially the mechanoids, who carry around their armor in hammerspace and summon them into the material realm while they themselves unison into the armor, the true-blue self-motile armor that due to its 3 meter tall girth can be considered a proper suit.

[AdmiralTigerclaw]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Body armor would still chafe, so at the least they'd still be wearing underwear with the body armor, at least so that the sensitive parts don't hurt. On the other hand body armor + bra & panties + nothing else (or maybe thigh socks, can't go wrong with zettai ryouiki, it always makes things better) = hot.

*looks up and sees orbiting AC-130* Aw crap.

"Gurney!"

"GURNEY!"

*THUMP-CLANK*

[Wild Goose]

Actually, we do know one thing that can cause BJs to fail: magic damage. Soak up enough magic damage and you can burn a BJ away - notice how the edges of Fae's BJ were melting away when she tanked Nanoha's Starlight Breaker?

...oh, and apparently as according to Megami scans, it's possible to henshin and then castoff BJ components while still remaining henshined.....<.<

*calls in friendly air to take out the AC-130 and evac. Informed that friendly air will be ETA 5 hours from now*

Aw, fuck.

[TheShinySword]

*peeks in* Well I'm posting something >.> please be kind orz

It's a little thing to introduce an OC I've been working on as well with a few concepts of ShinyVerse (excuse I have to laugh at my own verse name) ancient belka. It has no title at the moment though.

Spoiler for Untitled:

The chapel of the Sankt Kaiser was strangely quiet. It was unusual. The little parish was normally a buzz with activity. Although it was never noisy, that would be disrespectful to the spirits, it normally was filled with people at least. Everyone always seemed to have some reason to pray to the Goddess for help. Whether they needed help with the harvest or luck in battle they were always relying on Her help.

The church wasn't too big, it was nothing compared to the giant cathedral in the capital but since it was located right outside the Kaiser's second residence it was well kept and had a number of priestesses looking after it. There were only five rows of pews opposed to the near hundred at the capital and instead of the massive alter there was a small one nearly indistinguishable from the rest of the building. This particular one didn't hold any sacred objects most holy relics had been moved to the capital for safety reasons.

There was a single worshiper, alone in this tiny place, yet hardly did this fellow seem devout. Rather the person seemed to be lounging in the pews as if it were a bedroom. Any normal person doing so would be promptly reprimanded. However, the blue garments that indicated one who directly served the royal family staved off any chiding. The napping person seemed to be in a deep sleep, unlikely to be roused anytime soon.

That was exactly why when a second person, this one also cloaked in blue , probably 13 or so but clearly a girl unlike the androgynous napper. She walked clumsily through the aisle only barely managing to not trip on the rug running down the center. She did however manage to slide into the pew and next to the sleeper with little difficulty.

“...Kaon... wake up.”

The napper did no such thing. Kaon merely remained fast asleep, blowing a lone strand of white hair back and forth with each inhale and exhale.

The girl was not about to give up so easily. She prodded Kaon's cheek once, twice and then a third time. There was no response but an near inaudible exhale. The blond didn't give up. She moved on to poking the arms, “Kaon~ Kaon~ Kaon!” The legs, the stomach, everything was fair game yet nothing worked. The girl sighed and raised a finger high aiming for the Kaon's exposed sides. “Kaon you have forced me into this please forgive me."

JAB

“GAH!” This time the reaction was an instantaneous and rather feminine yelp of alarm. “Oi oi, what was that for?” Her voice changed to a fierce growl, rather than a yell of indignity it was rather the same sort of sound a tiger makes when warning a person to come no closer.

“For sleeping,” came the simple answer.

“Is that a crime now Princess?” The woman (perhaps girl would have suited her better since she seemed no more than 15) flipped her long, low ponytail over her shoulder and sat up making it clear she was shorter than the princess beside her. “Because you can arrest me now for my seat is rather comfortable and I feel another nap coming on,” and with that she settled down to nap once again.

The princess of the Belkan empire, the second child of the Sankt Kaiser, the most powerful man in their universe and likely many others, pouted. “Honestly, how can you just go to sleep on someone? And besides you're sleeping on solid wood, you can't tell me it's comfortable.”

“It's easy,” Kaon opened on scarlet eye, “I close one eye, then I close the other and suddenly sleep comes to me.”

“That's not funny Kaon.” The princess crossed her arms and deepened her pout.

“...Why do you keep calling me that?” She opened both eyes and seemed to give up on sleeping for the moment.

“Isn't that your name? Father calls you that, as do all the knights, why can't I call you that?” Genuine confusion filled the girl's young features.

“That's not my name, it's an acronym. The Sankt Kaiser, the knights all call me by it because there's just no better name to use.”

“Well what's your name then?” Again the girl's curiosity seemed genuine.

“I don't have one.” Kaon shrugged as if saying one didn't have a real name was like saying one didn't have a clean pair of socks.

“What does Kaon stand for?”

“...I don't remember.”

The princess giggled, “Well then Kaon's your name. If you don't remember than no one else does! So the original intention has changed and it's a name now.”

“... that makes absolutely no sense,” despite the cold words a smile did light up on her lips. “By the way, why are visiting me on this...”
Kaon looked to the left and to the window displaying the not quite raging storm outside, “not that pleasant of a day? Actually for that matter, why are you here alone? I know you're dressed like a servant but still...”

“Oh I'm not alone, Knight Reiniger's been acting as my bodyguard while we were here,” Vivio motioned to the chapel's door where indeed the dark haired knight stood silent as ever.

“... ah, well if he's here than there isn't anything to worry about I suppose,” Kaon scratched her head. She didn't have much first hand knowledge of the relativity young knight but his growing reputation proceeded him. “Now, why are you here again?”

“I could ask you the same thing,” The Princess had a good point. Kaon was known for using every minute of her time to the absolute fullest, not for napping in churches.

“Your father ordered me here on vacation with you while he taught your brother himself remember. So I came here to... 'vacation',” she shuffled in her seat, trying to get more comfortable. “Now if you excuse me I'll be going back to 'relaxing'.”

“Why in a place like this?” The Princess was incapable of taking hints.

“Because it's quiet. There's no one here. So I'm not constantly pestered by certain people,” Kaon droned flatly, hoping The Princess would get it. Alas the chances of that were about the same as a dog being crowned the next Kaiser. “...However, you did hunt me down so I might as well ask you what exactly it is you want from me.”

“Well I... I'd like... a story...” The Princess was blushing and looking everywhere but at Kaon.

“Than hire a story teller,” and like that she was blown off.

“But storyteller's stories are all false! Yours are true, that's what makes them exciting,” she clapped her hands together.

“Read a history book,” dismissed once again.

“...please?” Her voice grew small and soft, like she wasn't quite sure if she wanted it to be heard.

“I won't tell you a story.”

“But Kao-”

Kaon raised one pale hand to silence the younger girl. “But I will give you a history lesson. Listen closely to your former tutor because I won't repeat anything.”

“But you weren't my tutor, you were my brother's.”

“Please.” Kaon rolled her eyes, “If I was really teaching him I would have stopped when he fell asleep, he's a kind boy and will be a good king but honestly he could care less about anything not happening now. And don't think I didn't notice you hiding- your skills really do not lie in stealth. Now,” she stretched out her hands. “What shall I discuss?” She gave the room a lazy look over, “Well we're in a church so..., how much do you know about our nation's religion.”

“A-ah, it um...” The princess furrowed her brow in concentration, “umm... well it centers around worshiping the Goddess right? And the Kaiser too, since he's the mortal incarnation of her consort that's why the heir's always been male right?”

“Right, that's what's preached now,” something lit up in those red eyes of hers, all signs of her going back to sleeping were gone, “but a couple hundred years back to think of the Kaiser as anything but a man would have been heresy. Back then only a man could inherit the throne out of sheer misogyny not divine right.

“However after the women's rights uprising and the inheritance laws were changed there was a particular prince who desire to take the throne rather than his older sister. He designed to have the holy books rewritten and the role of the kaiser changed from merely being the man the Goddess designed to lead the chosen Belkans, to a God himself, who's divinity passes from father to son and uncle to nephew.”

“Ah, I think I get it,” The Princess nodded, thinking over what she'd just learned “basically he didn't mean to but he ensured that no woman would ever be Kaiser.”

“Well to be fair, he probably meant to do exactly that, he was kind of a prick actually,” the minuet teacher seemed unrepentant at insulting one of the empire's “holy” former leaders. “He never paid his lessons any mind and started about thirty different conquest campaigns. His early death was well deserved, his son was a far better leader.”

“I see... so you're telling me that parts of the Belkan religion were added on,” this didn't seem to bother the Princess, “well I suppose that makes sense, if it remained unchanged that would be a lot stranger.”

“To say it changed is,” Kaon waved a hand around, “an understatement. The practitioners of the original religion wouldn't even recognize the one we have today. Let's see... oh. For instance you know our holy book of course.”

“Oh yes, I read the psalms often,” she clasped her hands together, interlacing her fingers. “They're wonderful. You can just feel the prayer coming through them.”

“I would give mine blood, mine body, mine soul for thee oh Kaiser. For thee and thy Goddess art make me naught before thee.” Kaon's voice was lyrical, like a bard who wasn't quite singing but still seemed to be.

“Oh that's psalms seventy three isn't it?”

“It's satire.” The low voice entering the air startled both princess and teacher until they recalled the knight standing guard by the door. His head was turned to them, evident that he had listened in. How could he not? “Isn't it Master Kaon?”

“Give the man something sweet,” a wide, toothy grin spread across Kaon's face. “That's exactly it. As your reward you can drop the master stuff, I know you're just looking for the right title since I'm not a knight but no one's found the right one for years so there's no real worries.”

The teacher laughed, “I wrote about I'd say ten percent of the psalms. People take them so seriously but I'm making fun of them.” She shrugged and shook her head as if saying, what can you do, “The psalms are one giant inside joke.”

“Hmm... even if you're the creator and they weren't meant to mean anything I think the love and faith people put behind them make them real,” The Princess spoke so honestly Kaon found she couldn't laugh at the statement.

The red eyed tutor looked into the Princess' hetrochromic pair, “please hold onto that kind way of thinking. Just because the religion's changed doesn't mean there isn't a goddess listening to our prayers somewhere.” Kaon flipped onto her back ready to return to her dreams.

“Lesson over.”

“W-Wait. Kaon!”

“Your highness I believe we should return before the servants realize you've left,” Reiniger's footsteps rang through the holy place until he stood at the mouth of the aisle. “And I think Master Kaon is finished.”

“It's Kaon,” Kaon grumbled before sliding back to sleep.

“Alright,” The Princess sighed dramatically before smoothing down her skirt and leaving with her knight.

~~~

“Investigator! Investigator! Investigator Jin! Please wake up miss!” The young assistant to the investigator shook his boss hoping she'd wake up before her boss saw her sleeping on the job... again. “You have paper work to do!”

Alas the small gumshoe remained fast asnooze, clinging to her pretty but useless sword like a pointy security blanket, and completely oblivious to the rest of the world as she slept on her desk in the Investigation Department's Cranagan headquarters. She merely shuffled a bit in her sleep and muttered something about noisy princesses.

“Hmm? What's Ethan doing at Kaon's desk?” A playful laugh interrupted Ethan's awakening attempts. “I know you're her assistant but you don't have to do her paperwork.”

“Mr. Acous! Kaon won't wake up,” Ethan looked up and the handsome- Or was pretty really a better term?- green haired man.

“Ah,” Acous stroked his chin, “Kaon is a master of passing out. The only thing to do is,” he held up a finger, “know where to poke.”

“Eh? Sir?!? What are you going to-”

The answer was clear when Acous, faster than lightning, jabbed Kaon's side.

“GAH!”

She sprung to life and her feet, immediately putting distance between her and Acous. “Verossa! I was sleeping!”

“I know. I didn't perchance ruin a nice dream did I?”

“You did, as usual,” Kaon shrugged, “It was odd though. Actually it was in 3rd person...”

“What was it about?” Ethan asked innocently.

His reward was a fist rubbing his head playfully, “I'd remember if certain people hadn't woken me up.” She straightened up, “Now get thee gone, I have work to do.” She shooed a laughing Acous off and then a reluctant Ethan before lowering her head to the pile of paperwork to be filled and falling back asleep.

Spoiler for Notes:

Introducing Kaon the left hand of the Kaiser and Investigator Kaon Jin the devil Auditor. Full profile to come soon.

A few concepts for ancient Belka here that I think work (please point out if I put in anything contradictory to canon) including making it a patriarchy (So you can guess what happens to AncientBelka!Vivio's (Merely princess here to avoid having to name her <,<) older brother ). For the Belkan religion and it's evolution I was trying to go for something I thought could fluidly turn into the modern Belkan church. As I see it it'll go from Kaiser is divine and Goddess to Duel gods (kaiser and goddess) to the Goddess slowly being eliminated.

For the bit at the end I don't think it's ever said specifically that the investigators don't all share an office building and have direct bosses but please correct me if I'm wrong.

And thanks Tempest for letting me borrow Noland

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

TADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIMA

SANJOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*ehem*

Welcome back.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

No objection on killing here... Mai has killed/tortured/driven mad her fair share of people during her 'Hell Girl' days... and that was starting at 10 years old. While her TSAB training days would indoctrinate the "capture-first kill-if-necessary" policy into her, she wouldn't have a problem literally sending someone to hell if the occassion calls for it.

Also, while Mai isn't actually a stranger to criminal underworlds and the like (so many of her clients have been wronged by the Yakuza or some other criminal organization one way or another), her actual perception of them is still on the "naive" side, given that she never bothered to look at them other than targets for assassination, and hence she doesn't quite know the more... intricate politics of the underworld, and the repurcussions that upsetting the balance of power and the lack of intelligence on said repurcussions would get her. Hence, the need for Eden's expertise on said matters, since unfortunately Mai is the kind of person who, while subtle in her technique, is less than so in her actual intent: She's the kick-their-asses-first-then-worry-about-the-fallout later kinda girl, which would be bad for a covert investigation

Yes it would. Luckily, Eden is there to help. Having a hell-girl walking around destroying her information network is not her idea of productivity.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

And said scientist will have a bit of an ego, hence once he acquires Venti and commences his successful assassination runs he'll tend to leave a signature or a mark behind, advertising that his alter ego was the one who just crushed your criminal empire.

He's neither old or cranky though... kinda imagine him being this type of guy for some reason...

Spoiler:

Ooooh, yes that would make for a fine opponent indeed.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Capt. Eric Lodge: Yes, tea is very good... wouldn't you agree Sal?
Aide: He's Prime Minister Salvator Principe Aquitos to you, not Sal!
Sal: Quiet, you're ruining our enjoyment of the tea. More, Madam Erica?
Capt. Lodge: Why thank you Now about that embargo...

*ehem*

Sorry for the confusing unintroduced OC insert there... Will be making a full intro on the Captain of the starship Exousia soon, in accordance with her presence in the Perfect Grade Profile...

Looking forward to it.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

That's a nice gun there, even though the design of that silver bar on top of the trigger kinda threw my perspective of it for a loop (like it had it's trigger hanging off the side of the gun or something)

Can't wait to see the shop

Working on it now.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Aaaah "mandatory repairs", the best way to get even the most stubborn cyborg to come home with you And Eden will like Mos Eisley then I take it... lots of target practice there

Also, she's looking very cool, badass and lovely in that image, well done

Well, this scene was based on the Mos Eisley scene after all. Couldn't resist, it's a perfect moment of anti-hero badassery, and also shows how much Eden dances between light and darkness.

Next chapter will be more light-hearted, as Eden goes to meet her new sisters.

Originally Posted by Saint X

And Just dropping this before I focus more on a lol project outside of the Nanoverse.

Oh? What project is that?

Originally Posted by Saint X

Spoiler for Special Missile Squad A: Launcher: Marie:

Cyborg? No.
Your Worst Nightmare? Probably.
Cute enough to take home? YES DEFINITELY!
IF YOU CAN SEE THE MISSILES HEADED TOWARDS YOU!

Spoiler for Special Missile Squad B: Spotter: Juana:

You like them?
I'm sure you do...
Oh my, is that my bolt on your chest?
It feels so lonely... let me add another.

Those designs are just especially Juana. And her lines under the image are priceless.

Originally Posted by Saint X

Disruptor Cloud: A skill that usually fires from the upper tube. Upon reaching the target it detonates into a cloud of sparkling disruptive particles, rendering any opposing shields useless almost without any knowledge of the shielding targets, since the shield does not go down. This spell was proven to take down Lambda Fielded Targets and on AMF as well. Usually fired with the a normal lower tube shot for the complete effect of disrupt-destroy.

I'm somewhat concerned about this skill as well. The last line especially suggests that this is a one-shot-kill weapon for all mages. What are the limits? Would a more powerful barrier take more time to be disrupted? Even the Aces are easy kills without their barriers.

Originally Posted by Saint X

V.B.A.S.: Stands for Variable Ballistic Action Spell/Skill. Basically this a high level shooting control skill that controls any allied magical shot/s as they head towards the target/s- with the consent of the originating mage. The details of this spell/skill are rather vague, but reports say that it controls the shots in ways "normal magic shots can't do".

More out of curiosity then balance, but since we've seen magic shots make sharp turns and even direct 180's, how would this shot be controlled in a way normal shots can't?

Originally Posted by Saint X

Phasing Dart: A Bolt that on command, can pass thru certain objects, enabling to hit targets behind multiple layers of items.

I guess Barrier Jackets are exempt from this? Would make it a rather overpowered shot otherwise...

Originally Posted by Saint X

Spoiler for spell list:

Nail Dart: A Bolt that pierces and holds the target down- but dealing no damage. Most effective if nailing on some solid backing.

Sensing Dart: Fires a Bolt that sticks on a target and provide a real time track of the marked target. Can be used along with Mark.

Grapple Dart: Fires a Bolt that pierces the target, dealing no damage but has a grapple line trailing behind it, enabling the user to either reel or be reeled in. Useful for scaling walls.

Porcupine Mine: Fires a Crossbow Bolt that is relatively harmless until it hits the ground, turning the area around it into a base for a mine. The mine can then be set off by will or by trip, firing magical bolts upward towards the target. Useful as traps or for defensive purposes.

Striking Lance: A powerful skill that fires a bolt upwards and returns as a much powerful one, crashing on the target and its surroundings.

Capture Lance: An area containment skill that fires the bolt upwards like in Striking Lance but fall down on the target as 4 'pegs' of a capturing field, 'netting' the target in mid-air or anchoring the target to the ground or a wall.

Bombing Lance: A powerful area bombardment similar to Striking Lance, but instead of a single shot, multiple explosive bolts rain down.

Flight Foot: Marie's movement spell. As she runs, her feet float a few inches off the ground, making her move fast and silent, as well as on water and along walls.

A lot of these spells are very interesting... would you mind if I put the idea of the bolts spells and crossbow device on my list as a possible new magic style and Device for Syn? Or maybe the missile launcher idea... that would fit with Syn's fascination for mechanics...

Well, I guess that tells you how much I like these ideas.

Originally Posted by JamesEdwards

@SaintX:

Well, seems perfectly solid to me, though just one question, and this one has been bugging me for a while now...

What's the explanation behind dual-wielding devices? Is it normal to be able to use two devices simultaneously? Or is it usually a case of switching off on one and another?

Take Juana, for example, can she just flip down Plantir over her eyes, effectively, put it into active mode, and still fire an aimed shot from Xevious? Or would it be too much of a strain for her by normal standards?

Dual wielding Devices is like using two pieces of equipment. It's perfectly possible and even advisable if the equipment compliment each other. Subaru uses two Devices, Mach Calibur and Revolver Knuckle. Hayate uses two as well, Schwertkruez and Yaten no Sho, and you can even count three if you include Rein.

Therefore I don't think it will cause any undue stress on Juana to use both at the same time, as we haven't seen any case of using two different devices being more difficult then one.

Originally Posted by JamesEdwards

Oh, and yeah, Juana is definitely the one I'm watching out for. Marie's nowhere near as dangerous when she's alone.

Dunno, in shooters the guy with the missile launcher is as deadly as the guy with the sniper. <_<

Originally Posted by TheShinySword

-snip
[/SPOILER]

Spoiler for Notes:

Introducing Kaon the left hand of the Kaiser and Investigator Kaon Jin the devil Auditor. Full profile to come soon.

A few concepts for ancient Belka here that I think work (please point out if I put in anything contradictory to canon) including making it a patriarchy (So you can guess what happens to AncientBelka!Vivio's (Merely princess here to avoid having to name her <,<) older brother ). For the Belkan religion and it's evolution I was trying to go for something I thought could fluidly turn into the modern Belkan church. As I see it it'll go from Kaiser is divine and Goddess to Duel gods (kaiser and goddess) to the Goddess slowly being eliminated.

For the bit at the end I don't think it's ever said specifically that the investigators don't all share an office building and have direct bosses but please correct me if I'm wrong.

And thanks Tempest for letting me borrow Noland

Well, so far you've been messing around in Ancient Belkan times, and the advantage of Ancient Belka is that we don't know anything about it, so it's hard to go against canon. Even though I have my doubts Belka was patriarchal, that would be my personal opinion rather then canon, so there are no problems there.

Looking forward to the full profile.

[Liingo]

A return to semi-active posting, I think.

Well when I find the time.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Double post. I know. But with actual writing, so it's a good thing.

Spoiler for When off duty...:

*snip*

I was expecting a lightsabre but that's fine as well I guess.

Spoiler for Some minor corrections:

Ginga turned around an saw Eden

Spoiler for Some minor corrections:

-> and

Shaking of that thought, Ginga

-> off

so they lay low and don’t nearly advertise their presence

Just a questions, what's the 'nearly' for in this sentence?

Originally Posted by Saint X

Spoiler for Special Missile Squad A: Launcher: Marie:

*snip*

Spoiler for Special Missile Squad B: Spotter: Juana:

*snip*

Spoiler for Combined History:

*snip*

Things look fine for both OC's. Just one questions though,

Often on ChOp with other units.

When you say ChOp, what exactly do you mean? (Sorry if this was covered before)

Originally Posted by TheShinySword

*peeks in* Well I'm posting something >.> please be kind orz

It's a little thing to introduce an OC I've been working on as well with a few concepts of ShinyVerse (excuse I have to laugh at my own verse name) ancient belka. It has no title at the moment though.

Spoiler for Untitled:

Spoiler for Things that you may or may not wish to change:

Any normal person doing so would be promptly reprehended

I would have used reprimanded but I guess it works. Although making me check it's definition doesn't exactly make it a 'dumb-friendly' word.

cloaked in blue but clearly a girl, probably 13 or so, unlike the androgynous napper

It might be nit-picking, but the comparison isn't very clear here. Is the unlike supposed to refer to the age or as the 'androgynous' suggest gender?

but an near inaudible exhale

-> a

I came to this place to keep you from annoying me so I could get some actual rest. “

your speech marks seem to be in the wrong spot.

particular prince who desire to take the throne

-> desired

minuet teacher insulted on of the empire's “holy” former leaders.

->one

“Isn't it Master Kaon?”

If she's female, why is she a master? wouldn't mistress be the correct term to use? Not that it really matters..

completely oblivious to rest of the world

=> to the rest

Spoiler for Notes:

Couldn't see anything that was contradictory to canon, but there are others who know much more than I do.

Interesting work though. I'll have to dig through the FF thread someday to find the continuity that this is related to.

-liingo

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Liingo

A return to semi-active posting, I think.

Well when I find the time.

Welcome back.

Originally Posted by Liingo

I was expecting a lightsabre but that's fine as well I guess.

Eden: What would I want a glow-stick for? I've got a blaster.

Originally Posted by Liingo

-> and
-> off

*scribble scribble* Corrections made, thanks.

Originally Posted by Liingo

Just a questions, what's the 'nearly' for in this sentence?

A typo, sentence should have been "so they lay low and don’t nearly advertise their presence as much."

Is that better?

[MeisterBabylon]

Photophobia... Phonophobia... Disorientation... Whee what a wonderful day of migraine it has been.

I actually wanted to post something, but I clean forgot what I wanted to say. Doesn't help that exams are coming... Maybe I should go back to sleep...

[Evangelion Xgouki]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Isn't Fumoffu that high-school spinoff?

Not so much a spin-off but more like the crazy, wacky stuff they couldn't get into the first series (and due to the success some of the Fumoffu humor was brought into TSR).

Originally Posted by Keroko

Double post. I know. But with actual writing, so it's a good thing.

Spoiler for When off duty...:

*snip*

Yes, actual writing is a good thing .
Infiltration line, huh? This could prove most interesting in future missions I would think...

Originally Posted by TheShinySword

*peeks in* Well I'm posting something >.> please be kind orz

It's a little thing to introduce an OC I've been working on as well with a few concepts of ShinyVerse (excuse I have to laugh at my own verse name) ancient belka. It has no title at the moment though.

Spoiler for Untitled:

*snip*

So somebody is taking a step into Outer Cadia, huh?
Interesting character (and another that was transcended time). Interesting nickname. I wonder where ever did you get the idea

[TheShinySword]

Originally Posted by Liingo

Spoiler for Things that you may or may not wish to change:

It might be nit-picking, but the comparison isn't very clear here. Is the unlike supposed to refer to the age or as the 'androgynous' suggest gender?

If she's female, why is she a master? wouldn't mistress be the correct term to use? Not that it really matters..

Ah thanks for all that.

Spoiler for Things and stuff:

1. Flipped the order so it's clear which connects to which
2. Kaon prefers no title but is occasionally called master for various reasons that will be clearer in her profile.

So corrections made from both Liingo and Tempest.

[Liingo]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Welcome back.

It's good to be back.

Eden: What would I want a glow-stick for? I've got a blaster.

But glow stick's block blasters. well most of the time

A typo, sentence should have been "so they lay low and don’t nearly advertise their presence as much."

Is that better?

IMO, I don't see the point of having the 'nearly' there in the new sentence either. It isn't adding anything to my interpretation of the sentence, that they want to stay out of sight and thus are not flaunting their goods on the open market.

Originally Posted by TheShinySword

Ah thanks for all that.

Spoiler for Things and stuff:

1. Flipped the order so it's clear which connects to which
2. Kaon prefers no title but is occasionally called master for various reasons that will be clearer in her profile.

So corrections made from both Liingo and Tempest.

I'll wait for the profile. As I said last night, there isn't really much difference between addressing someone as master or mistress.

Ahh misssed one thing.

minuet teacher insulted one of the empire's “holy” former leaders.

-> minute. Unless of course your intention is to describe Kaon as a stately dance from the 16th/17th century in 3/4 time.

[stormturmoil]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Eden: What would I want a glow-stick for? I've got a blaster.

Unfortunately, as the more medically minded of us know only too well, this particular item is notorious as the primary infective vector of a crippling and disabling Malady known as 'Stormtrooper Syndrome'

As a result of which, by using such an implement, Eden now has about as much chance of hitting a target as a blind man (shut up, Noland...). Who's Facing the wrong way. In a pitch black room. At midnight. Suffering from severe hand cramps. After smoking crack. And taking LSD. While Drunk. And on Fire....

* IS NOT SHOT*

I rest my case...

[JamesEdwards]

Originally Posted by stormturmoil

Unfortunately, as the more medically minded of us know only too well, this particular item is notorious as the primary infective vector of a crippling and disabling Malady known as 'Stormtrooper Syndrome'

As a result of which, by using such an implement, Eden now has about as much chance of hitting a target as a blind man (shut up, Noland...). Who's Facing the wrong way. In a pitch black room. At midnight. Suffering from severe hand cramps. After smoking crack. And taking LSD. While Drunk. And on Fire....

* IS NOT SHOT*

I rest my case...

*Calls in for an Orbital Bombardment from an Interdictor-class Sith Destroyer.*

Well, blasters miss, but that's why we use TURBOLASERS. A bigger gun always solves the prob-

*Is caught in the ensuing Dies Irae too.*