Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 1 Discussion / Poll

[meh]

*Sigh* Further proof that going from reading VN/Light novel -> watching anime is never as good as it is the other way around(anime->VN/Light novel). Although for some reason this doesn't apply to manga->anime though.

So looking forward to this show, only to feel pretty meh, about it. Although I do like the non-deformed portrayals.

[Jerseykid]

So many characters to remember

[velvet]

Was waiting for subs. -_-a

Had to watch this while opening the Tips page, they slammed the characters at you,

OP/ED got me shivering a few times.
The episode, well.. I got what I wanted. The craving to understand more. A lot more.
Good sign, in my book.

I was expecting a S1 higurashi like preview, though.

[monir]

Originally Posted by chronotrig

I'll agree that there are parents who are much worse than the Rosa you've seen so far.
Still, hitting your daughter because you're annoyed doesn't show up in any parenting books I've seen.

It's a little difficult to empathize here from looking from the outside. I know parents who have children at that age will be able to empathize with her situation. Parents who are dealing with their children 24/7 have different perspective of any situation their children are involved with. It is also possible that Rosa had been bullied at some point in her life, or she is being bullied currently, so the idea that her daughter is going through similar problem may also have contributed to this outburst of her temper. However, I do agree that Rosa could have very easily handled this situation a bit differently.

A big LOL at the parenting book reference.

[IfritTower]

My friend watched this episode without reading Umineko at all before this and he was very intrigued by it. I'll take that as a good sign! The only real thing that he didn't understand was how everyone was related. But to be fair, the anime kinda didn't mention a lot of family relations. He gave it a solid 8/10.

[klare]

i did not read it before, after watching this eps, i cannot make out what genre is this

at first i thought it is the serial murder in mansion/island type... now i am not sure

and the main lead does not look a likable guy

[Christen]

Originally Posted by klare

i did not read it before, after watching this eps, i cannot make out what genre is this

at first i thought it is the serial murder in mansion/island type... now i am not sure

and the main lead does not look a likable guy

Just give it a few more episodes. Battler's character will eventually be developed as well.

[risingstar3110]

Watched the Ep 1 at last. First timer here, and so far Ep 1 gives a positive aura

Unless it skipped out lots of important contents from the novel, the EP by itself is not as rushed as people claimed. Beatrice seems to be (and is) the center of the EP, and the flow seems smoother when minor details are "temporarily" brushed aside (even if it's gonna becomes really important later).

I admit i won't remember all the characters , but i think it's better to let character initial introduction to be quick, and get focused as we process, than providing too many information as one. Problem is can't remember any character name yet except the witch and Battler because his name sound like Ushiromiya Battle xD


I believe my comments are quite neutral here(since some ppl want to hear from one), as even Umineko is a "successor" of Higurashi, a series i really like, i believe that two master pieces rarely is created by same author. The influence of Umineko popularity also do not affect me much as Suzumiya Haruhi is still the biggest hit of the season for me. Then Haruhi to me is a completely different genre so i don't really care if Umineko will "steal" any popularity

[MeoTwister5]

Are we allowed to list down the familial relationships between the characters or is that a spoiler? I've actually had someone PM asking if I knew for some reason.

[Jan-Poo]

Well I think those are well explained in the "TIPS" thread, every spoiler there is under "spoiler" tag. However it's probably better if right now people that have never played the VN will stop at the second post. Until then however it's perfectly fine to read.

[Saerianne]

They overdid Battler's pervyness in that 1st ep. XD You'll see him develop, as Christen said. It is a horror genre.
At the Maria/Rosa conversations, its only the first episode. You'll see eventually what Rosa and Maria are both like.

[risingstar3110]

While the OP was great, it give a sense of killer lolies all over the place xD


Whether it try to trick the audience or not, make me try to watch out every Maria's action.
Like when Battler say "My cousin Maria is pure and cute", i was like "Cute? She is probably hiding a cleaver in her bag, and go L4 on you by the end of the series" ^^

[hodil]

May the underrated umineko bounce above Haruhi Suzumiya.

Beatrice bless us.

Cant wait for the next episode seriously...

[MeoTwister5]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

While the OP was great, it give a sense of killer lolies all over the place xD


Whether it try to trick the audience or not, make me try to watch out every Maria's action.
Like when Battler say "My cousin Maria is pure and cute", i was like "Cute? She is probably hiding cleaver in her bag, and go L4 on you by the end of the series" ^^

I'd actually advise to not and think of this as Higurashi V2.0 because it isn't, for reasons of course I'm not allowed to state.

[risingstar3110]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

I'd actually advise to not and think of this as Higurashi V2.0 because it isn't, for reasons of course I'm not allowed to state.

Just a parody, parody.... =D

I means if the author don't want us to refer to Higurashi once in a while when watching Umineko, then he has not stuck the series with "....no Naku Koro Ni".

[Saerianne]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

Just a parody, parody.... =D

I means if the author don't want us to refer to Higurashi once in a while when watching Umineko, then he has not stuck the series with "....no Naku Koro Ni".

It's got 'no naku koro ni' because it's the 3rd game in the When they cry series. You probably knew that, but it's nothing like Higurashi.
Although, a certain someone did make a reference or two to the game, didn't they? Haha!

[risingstar3110]

OK, new discussion: should they not showing Beatrice in the OP of ep 1 and let the audience wondering about the actual existence of Beatrice until it need to be revealed?

I means surely we have avatar and signature all around the forum to know that a character like her exist. But for those who have no experience at all, the only indication of her actual existence in Ep 1(other than from a "mad" old man, and a "silly" kid) come from the OP.

So her sudden appearing (as the anime expected us to think that's her) behind Maria make us wondering more of "Why she appear now? what is her motive?" rather than " Oh s***, does witches really exist? Or is it an imposter with unknown motives?"

[MeoTwister5]

The OP doesn't necessarily prove that she exists or not. It only gives a What If scenario since you get a lot of references to her in the first episode as well as the protrait of what she looks like.

[Jan-Poo]

I personally think they shouldn't have shown that shape, but mind this: it doesn't mean that what you saw there is Beatrice, even people who played all the 4 VN cannot answer that question.

[MeoTwister5]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

I personally think they shouldn't have shown that shape, but mind this: it doesn't mean that what you saw there is Beatrice, even people who played all the 4 VN cannot answer that question.

LOL we're getting into really big spoiler territory here. Let's let everyone else speculate on this instead.