2009-07-14, 01:44 | Link #2121 | |
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Arc-en-Ciel.
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2009-07-14, 02:04 | Link #2122 |
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From what I remember of Chrono and Yuuno's comments during A's, the weapon is a spatial distortion type that can damage areas in excess of a multiple hundred-kilometer radius. The range was never specifically mentioned.
All they really said was it would make a boom big enough to turn probably a quarter of the United States into radioactive glass.
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2009-07-14, 02:45 | Link #2123 |
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That bad? Tch, looks like I underestimated its destructiveness. Read: its not something that could be covered up by TSAB via conventional means to appease the general public should Arc-en-Ciel zap in the neighborhood of Japan. Though in the light of the potential scope of destruction, it makes Vita's comment about Hayate's house being blown away funnier.
(Basically TSAB had to take care of BoD incident w/o nanoha's interfence per canon and wasn't able to minimize damage/casulities like it was in canon and had to try cover it up to avoid exposing TSAB's existence to the world.) I guess ill have to figure something else out. Thanks guys. |
2009-07-14, 12:40 | Link #2125 |
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It's not so much a "boom" as a "sucks things in and then they're gone" effect too, right? It wouldn't flatten terrain, it'd just dig a big crater... ('course, who knows how much actual "stuff" it can suck in? Maybe it has a different blast pattern when fired at a surface.)
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2009-07-14, 17:26 | Link #2129 |
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Another thing about the Arc-en-Ciel is that there seems to be two different ways to fire it. Compare the one that Graham uses to destroy the Hestia in ep10 versus the one they use to destroy the Book of Darkness in ep 12. The former seems to be a single shot like a photon torpedo (from star trek) while the second is a continuous beam.
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2009-07-14, 17:26 | Link #2130 |
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Completely off-the-wall theory, but for some reason I read "spatial distortion" as "localized warp in dimensional space-time"--that is, it rips the area of effect through a dimensional warp, scattering whatever happens to be in the target dimension across other dimensions. It also explains why there's no apparent effect beyond that radius of effect (though of course we can't necessarily say that, because both times it's fired, we see it in the vacuum of space), because the dust cloud, the radiation (if any), and so on is all scattered across hundreds, even thousands of different dimensions. Plus sparkly lights in the target area, of course.
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2009-07-14, 18:11 | Link #2131 |
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From what I interperate from visuals and dialogue.
The shot warps the immediate spacetime around the target, causing localized spatial stresses on anything within the target area of effect. This continues until the local spacetime can no longer compensate for the stress, it tears and the recoil from this snaps back like a rubber band. BOOM! |
2009-07-14, 19:14 | Link #2132 | |
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2009-07-15, 08:47 | Link #2134 | |
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It could easily be explained in the form of extreme tidal forces. Star Trek Technobabble is when you get to the point where 'modulating the deflector dish and firing a phased polaron beam' solves everything from black holes to time travel. And sprinkling Tachyons solves everything else. |
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2009-07-15, 15:28 | Link #2136 |
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Hey, it's true. Half the stuff they fix involves some modification to the deflector dish.
Usually involving the terms 'modulate' , 'tachyon' , 'subspace' or 'quantum' at any given point. Were I on the enterprise, my first question would be quite simple. Picard: Mr. Data! What is that? DATA: It's a hostile alien dimension creature... Picard: How do we defeat it? DATA: I would surmise that- ME: Skip everything and use whatever plan involves the Deflector Dish. DATA: ? ME: Works on everything else... DATA: He makes a good point Captain. PICARD: Make it so. *End of Episode, five minutes in...* |
2009-07-15, 22:25 | Link #2137 | |
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That's the aspect I'm considering working on, hence my interest into Arc-en-Ciel. |
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2009-07-15, 23:20 | Link #2138 | |
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Commander: "What kind of discrepency?" Investigator: "Well, I was persuing leads on our suspected Terrorist when I noticed something odd about the Non-Administered Worlds database." Commander: "What about it?" Investigator: "I was going through records 93, 94, 95, 96, 98, 99, and 100 trying to find possible-" Commander: "You skipped 97..." Investigator: "Actually, That's just it sir... Record 97... it's not there." Commander: "You mean Record 97 is blank?" Investigator: "No sir. I'd be able to reconstruct data from any archiving glitch that blanked record 97, or even be able to trace any previous access of that record had it been tampered with. But I don't even have a marker place for the record. It's just simply, not there. There IS no record 97." Commander: There's something fishy going on here... Send an encrypted message to Internal Affairs. Inform them of possible archive tampering activity. Don't say anything else. They'll find it on their own. Investigator: "Done. What do you think is going on?" Commander: "Whatever it is, sticking our nose into it alone is dangerous. Shut down the terminal, the hard way." Investigator: "On it." |
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2009-07-15, 23:35 | Link #2139 | |
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Remember that the Arc-en-Ciel wouldn't be fired by Graham or the conspirators; it's employed by the legitimate TSAB investigation under Lindy's command. The only real issue (presuming that Graham was exposed) would be Graham's own guilt in (a) concealing the location of the Book from the TSAB, (b) interfering with the Arthra's (including Nanoha, etc.) attempts to prevent the Book from being completed, and (c) how effective his scheme would have been without all the emotions bundled in. (Bonus points granted to the legitimacy of the Arc firing if it was only the last stage of the plan that failed--that is, if all the beating on the defense program failed to isolate the core so that it could be teleported to a safe location. In that case, the Arthra teleports everybody aboard, destroys the defense program with the Arc, and Reinforce shuts herself down as she did at the end of A's, ending the threat of the book. Happy end, unless you happen to live in Uminari City or have friends or relatives there.) |
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2009-07-16, 00:11 | Link #2140 |
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But that's it, Lindy and her co were never present in the first place when A's occured. Or Nanoha, for that matter.
I remembered reading elsewhere in one of threads here that Nanoha novel mentioned something about TSAB having a policy of forcibly removing any mages deemed to be too powerful or dangerous to be left unsupervised on an unadministrated world and detaining them, or something along those lines. That's pretty much what happened; TSAB simply didn't let Nanoha return home at end of first season, wanted to hold her for couple of months. And guess what happens? BoD pops up in her hometown ala A's and eventually goes berserk when Graham and sisters implements their plans. What's TSAB to tell Nanoha about it? "Sorry, one of our generals deliberately let rank S Logia go berserk in your city and we had to vaporize it along with the logia for the greater good of universe?" Seriously though, I'm still working on the idea, but is basically about nanoha (finally) coming home only to find out that chunks of her city were destroyed in some supposedly 'unbelivable' event, and TSAB never bothered inform (or deliberately concealed the incident from) her. I suppose it'd be like one of your typical conspiracy story where the big company's trying to keep some secrets from its workers. Though this is getting off topic so next time I reply, it'll be in the fanfic thread where it should belong. |
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