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I think the pope is an over-privileged religious figure who probably breaks his morals more then support them. Could be worse, there could be Knight templars. --wait. |
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With regards to the Knights Templar, one of my conspiracy theories says that they never really have been disbanded. Instead, they have always been around since they broke away from the Vatican. I believe that while Pope Clement publicly disbanded the order, he never really stopped working with them. There were combatant Templars and other Templars working to manage the economic structure of the Christian society of the day. It's very much possible that some escaped the trials and continued to work in secret, pulling strings from the shadows for the benefit of the Vatican. When you really think about it, the Vatican has vast sums of money coming from somewhere. Who manages charity money? Do we know where it really goes? Do we know what kind of investments the Pope and the Cardinals make? The Vatican has always had a history of secrecy and they're not exactly the most transparent economy either. For those who believe in Christianity, please do not feel offended by what I said. My grudge isn't with Christianity, the bible and the beliefs it tries to teach. The Bible isn't inherently bad although some of the things within are questionable. My grudge is purely with the Vatican for not following most if not all of that which it preaches. Quote:
Ever heard of the Masons? Part of my conspiracy theory says that the Masons are a spin-off of the Templar order (if we are to call them the Masons. I somewhat feel "Masons" is just a label) |
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2010-05-17, 11:54 | Link #7224 | |
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Then his husband. Obviously. What else?
Anyway we are off topic so much, and we would be branded as heretics by the Holey Roman Empire if we don't stop. Here's something to chew on today...... BP Reports Breakthrough in Controlling Oil Spill Quote:
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2010-05-17, 16:08 | Link #7225 |
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One of the sad facets of the Thai situation is there's been literally zero coverage from the US corporate mainstream media ... at most a one-liner here and there. All the information I'm getting comes from the BBC or Asian news outlets. From my research, it appears that US-based transnational corporate interests are aligned with the elite wealthy and current government factions in the Thai fracas - therefore the lack of coverage in US press and the silence from the White House (which is just about as corporatist in some ways as the previous administration, along with the long historical trail in US foreign policy before that).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8688299.stm I can't say I side with the redshirts or the government (lots of "hmmmmmm" from me on the stances on both sides) but the lack of media coverage in the US doesn't improve my opinion of the "government" storyline.
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WSJ -- Rupert Murdoch. Stopped being a credible news source a few years ago. I *used* to read it often over the decades (its always been big business biased, but usually at least factual or at worst omitted other points of view. Now its tabloid BS that serves Murdoch's agenda).
Here - read the lead sentence on today's WSJ website: Quote:
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2010-05-17, 18:14 | Link #7229 | ||
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2010-05-17, 20:54 | Link #7230 |
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In the "om nom nom" department (via Slashdot):
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/ba...ough-life-son/
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2010-05-17, 23:46 | Link #7231 | |
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2010-05-18, 00:59 | Link #7233 | |
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But even allowing for some liberal bias in the Stewart/Colbert show... I feel like I get more satirical "truth" in two minutes from them than I get on an entire day of CNN/Fox/MSNBC/ABC/blargh. Anymore the media packages "what sells" instead of "what is going on?"
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2010-05-18, 02:05 | Link #7234 | ||
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Then again, you don't just read from a single news agency right? It is my personal belief that any news-publisher will serve whoever pays them : it is a matter of survival, be it the state or the corporation. And yes, I don't really believe fully in whatever news I read anymore today, not after 9/11/2001 where the news agencies were rushing for news that snowballed into a mess and daily shortnotes on the mainpage apologising for errors in their news the previous day. Alternatively, since the conflict is in Asia, I would suggest that you look for something closer to the region. Like Today from Singapore (it's free ), but it can be too comprehensive at times. The other one which I think is okay is Bloomberg. There are probably a few other English publications in Asia which you can refer to after going through Google.
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2010-05-18, 02:27 | Link #7235 | ||
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As for the news publishers putting out whatever brings in money, to a certain extent, yes, that's true. It's not a charity operation after all. The business has to bring in money otherwise the it flops, plain and simple. But that's also an oversimplification of how different journalists seek to uphold professional standards of telling a story as truthfully and as objectively as possible. Let's just say the onus is not just on the reporter to tell the story, but also on the reader to cherry pick from as many sources as possible to get to the "whole truth". Quote:
As for Bloomberg, I'm iffy about its quality of reporting. But that's a subjective bias on my part. I'd sooner rely on the Financial Times or The Economist for financial/economic news and analysis. As for news wires, Reuters tends to appear to be the most reliable, compared to AP or AFP. I'm curious to know, though, is the New York Times still considered a "newspaper of record" in the United States? From what I understand, The Times of London used to hold that status among British readers, but has since lost that prestige thanks to its takeover by (who else?) News Corp. |
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2010-05-18, 02:51 | Link #7236 | |
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I don't enjoy The Economist's way of writing about economics because it didn't really quote much of fundamentals or technical analysis to support their inferences. Just words, words and words. Although the SDP (supply, demand, price) is considered common sense in the economic world, they could have done better to make clearer writing. Regarding it behind partially hosted by the "Illuminati" (Rothschild)....I shall not comment. But I do believe that Bloomberg is a pretty credible source since they usually report approximately-as-is, and then again, there is always the need for cross-referencing.
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2010-05-18, 02:59 | Link #7237 |
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Associated Press (AP) has taken a small dive in credibility thanks to its new CEO who has a stated agenda. Unfortunately, far too many other news outlets (newspapers) who might have been more neutral still rely on AP as part of the cooperative and pass it on unedited.
I dropped it from my google news portal about six months ago. Reuters at least just reports information mostly rather than spinning it but you won't get much analysis out of them. The Economist writings are good analysis... but theirs is a business perspective and business happens whether society is left/right/statist/anarchy. Bloomberg I find somewhat tabloidish and suspicious at times. The BBC tends to be dicey in regard to British interests so it is fun to place next to Deutsche Weekly (European Journal). I'll check those links as my Southeast Asian feeds are pretty spotty and the Chinese feeds are both good for chuckles and useful when understanding why individuals in China have the opinions they might have.
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2010-05-18, 03:18 | Link #7238 | |
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One source I enjoy is Democracynow.org. They have a left-wing perspective (that is left of the corporatist MSNBC), and they include a lot of international news that is not covered by typical American media. I watch via the podcast (M-F). Otherwise they are broadcast on satellite, I think, and are carried by Pacifica radio, which has very limited coverage.
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