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What Obama needs is more guts to forcibly carry out stuff like the energy act and such instead of trying to appeal to everyone. He's being sissy that way. Oh yes, he need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine. Televised speeches and reports have seem to become rather lopsided and less sensible than in the past.
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2010-08-28, 17:07 | Link #2 |
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Well, I agree somewhat with SaintessHeart. Obama is being pushed around by a bunch of quacking ducks at times. I haven't lost heart on him yet, at least its better than the last president. Its rather that people are seeing all too late what was wrong here.
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2010-08-28, 17:43 | Link #4 | |
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Exactly how is the Fairness Doctrine constitutional? And where exactly do you want it enforced? Obama is doing more harm than good with his Health Care Reform, not continuing the Bush Tax Cuts, running up the National Debt to epic record numbers, and generally just getting the Government involved in places it should not be involved with. He hasn't been making the situation any better. In some cases, he's continuing Bush policies(which aren't necessarily good), and in others he is going above and beyond them. We haven't had a good President since Reagan. |
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2010-08-28, 18:01 | Link #5 |
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^Most of our economic and political woes (hell, even many social) can be directly tied to Reagan's administration, so I would hold off calling him a good President. While Clinton is debatable, I would have to say that the last good president was actually...Nixon. As you, and others, finish laughing (and as I place aside his bigotry, hatred of the elite and the common man, and almost criminal record), Nixon is the last President that actually moved the entire country forward. He created the division between China and the USSR, effectively limiting the Communist alliance across the planet; he forged a détente and Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with the USSR; He abolished the gold standard (which directly created the world as we know it today (for better or worse)); created the EPA and the Clean Air Act; he helped put through Title IX reforms (that truly established the role of women in the workplace beyond the "traditional" role of the secretary); and his "New Federalism" was the last great moment of the Republican Party (Reagan pissed all over the new federalism, and Gingrich killed it completely in 94'). Nixon will always be remembered for his mishandling of the Vietnam War (however you wish to analyze the triumps and failures of the war) and Watergate and the feeling of paranoia that effectively changed America forever, but amongst these travesties he had many great ideas (or he at least backed other’s great ideas) that shaped America and the world for the better.
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1. It protects the president from untrue, slanderous and disparaging commentary. 2. It prevents sensationalism from pushing down civil order, on and off cyberspace. 3. It protects the people who might have an opposing view to magnates and panic mongers - and interestingly, it can indirectly protect gun owners. It is a good regulator of the media, which is currently running uncontrolled not only in the US, but also any country affected by globalisation. It should be enforced the way it used to be, on the news media industry. Regarding the US deficits and Obama running up the national debt, it is a by-product of fixing damages - one often spends more to fix something broken or messed up, often up to many-figure multiples if it has infinite useful life, like land, or a financial system. Obama is doing his best to set things right by approving the money usage, but it boils down all to the Congress, other political parties and ultimately, the people to make it work. Given the political climate, I don't think it is going to work. Not unless Sarah Palin disappears or something.
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2010-08-29, 05:17 | Link #9 | |
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Also, I don't think your lust for the return of the fairness doctrine or even the "personal attack" requirement could prevent "the one" from his current slow decline in the polls. We know he likes to respond to every single little gripe (whether he is the subject or not) aired in the media anyway through Gibbsy boy. Not helping him much. Personally, I think the jury is out on the one (the guy only has 2 years of resume material) and hasn't quite reached a level equal to the legacy hire..yet. Others will have other opinions. The fairness doctrine, especially one limited to broadcasting isn't changing my opinion for either of them, nor others opinions. Last edited by Hage-bai; 2010-08-29 at 06:09. |
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He's not an idiot, he's in fact the smartest man that has claimed leadership of the christian movement in America. If he wasn't so smart I'd probably say Newt was first but he is the master of the herd, the music man, like no other. And once people realize that antiquity won't matter in the apocalypse and anarchistic wasteland Beck creates they'll wish he fell in love with the music teacher instead.
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Also the fact that it will require everyone to have health insurance, is extremely unconstitutional... It will only make Health Care in America, much, much worse. Quote:
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And this is part of the reason why the Democrats are about to get their asses kicked in November, and hopefully in 2012... Hopefully the GOP establishment will also be looking for new jobs come election day. It's time to clean house. As probably the only Conservative Tea Party member on this forum, I am not surprised that I am alone here with my view point. Our views are just not compatible, and can never be compatible. How we view America, what it stands for, and what direction it should go, are just completely different. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLbeX5TgGCE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn4IH...eature=related |
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Btw, you've been watching a lot of FOX/reading a lot of the Heritage Foundation lately, haven't you? . This is nearly exactly what the commentators on FOX have been talking about for the past year in order to get support for the horrendous Bush Tax Cuts as they expire... I've never really understood this reasoning. The USSR was already spreading itself thin by 79' when the Soviet-Afghan war started, and Operation Cyclone (a Democratic run initiative) didn't really get into full effect until 82'-83', and by then the USSR was already well in the red. All the while, Reagan was spending 100s of billions he did not have on weapons that were never used for a war that was fought through covert means only. Quote:
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As for your Tea Partier status...well that's for you to decide. As for the Tea Party candidates, though, they are a mixed bag. Sharron Angle and Rand Paul are fairly stupid, and I can't imagine a majority of anyone actually supporting them in their election bid. Nikki Haley and Paul LePage seem okay, though Haley often comes across, whether deliberately or not, as a victim, and Paul LePage is a little unknown (besides his BP faux pas, he hasn't done much). And the rest (Kristi Noem, Tim Scott and Anna Little), are all, more or less, political unknowns since they have deliberately flown under the radar. (One thing I've always liked about the tea party movement is how many women have risen within the ranks.) In all honesty, I would have a lot more respect for the Tea Party movement if it had started under Bush (who created most of the problems the movement originally rallied against), and if the movement had not been taken over by awful politicians like Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Dick Armey, etc... |
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Why are you lumping those two together? And why do you think Rand Paul is stupid? You're entitled to your opinion, but I'm fairly curious - Angle might be for smaller government, but she is inconsistent and supports neocon policies, whereas Paul, love him or hate him, sticks to his guns as an old-school conservative.
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I wasn't saying they are the same, just that I dislike both.
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You're a moderator so I'm sure you would understand better than I, but isn't this still on-topic? I thought political discussion was more or less intertwined with this thread. |
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"We considered that the primary was a fight over the direction and the soul of the Republican Party," Paul campaign manager Jesse Benton said this week. "By Rand taking that hard stance in the primary, we think that those ideas won." Now that Paul is the nominee, "it is great to see so many leaders lining up behind" him, Benton said." and his own words on the civil rights: He was ask if he would vote for the civil rights act of 1964, Rand Paul said no. 24-hour later he answer yes. In between he also said private business have the rights to refuse service to black people. and on Sharon Angle: what kind of person would hold a press conference and then ran away from the reporters she invited before they can even ask one questions. She literally ran away, not walk but ran. The guy who hosted the press conference look like a deer in the headlight when she started running. and you have to love this: when ask by a waitress how she would create jobs in Nevada, Angle reply "ask the Lt .gov, it is not her job to created jobs." No wonder Reid wanted Angle as his opponent, his seat was for the taking. All the republicans had to do was put someone who is alive and sane. Instead they put up Angle who makes Palin look smart and reasonable. Quote:
Where were the Tea-party to protest one of the biggest expansion of government powers and spending under the Bush Admin? Obama was in office less then a yr before the tea party protest begin but Bush was in office 8 yrs and I did not see one Tea Party protest. If the tea-party was for small government why i didn't see one tea party protest against Bush?
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And you've been here 3 years longer than I have, so it all equals out . I consider it somewhat off-topic since our comments and discussion are not really based on any specific news article/source any longer, and are just political discussions. |
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As for interracial marriages, I don't think those laws prohibiting interracial marriage were constitutional to begin with. Leaving it up to the states doesn't mean they can go against the US constitution (though that has of course been the case for a long time now... which needs to change, as well). |
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