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Perfect 10 | 276 | 67.65% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 70 | 17.16% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 40 | 9.80% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 14 | 3.43% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 6 | 1.47% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.25% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.25% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-04-21, 23:04 | Link #222 |
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Also I don't know if anyone else has come to this conclusion as well it would seem that The whole wings and bow stuff with Homura is probably because in a timeline where Madoka doesn't exist, a wish to go back in time and protect Madoka could never have happened, so her powers are vastly different due to her new wish to protect the universe that Madoka gave her life to protect.
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2011-04-21, 23:04 | Link #223 |
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Incredible how in the last ep it went into Gurren Lagann terretory in scale of absurdness but yet it still made sense, but...BUT! i.i no matter what was said Madoka still "disappeared" , it was'nt exactly happy at all >_> damn you Urobochi!
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2011-04-21, 23:05 | Link #224 |
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I'm surprised that someone's hypothesis all the way back on episode 4 actually came true...
Anyway, this ending was defiantly satisfying from all the things that all the magical girls had to go through. Although near the ending it somewhat din't matter with witches now being replaced with demons (huh?) and Homura dealing with them now (I loved that last few minutes with the wings o.o) but atleast Mami survived along with Kyoko, although Homura is sad without Madoka (but the encouragement from time to time helps). Kinda sad that Sayaka couldn't be helped either way and her fate still remained the same (dying I meant)
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2011-04-21, 23:08 | Link #225 | ||
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As for the ending, I suppose Madoka took to heart what QB said about humanity still living in caves if it hadn't been for magical girls, hence why she didn't wish for the entire system itself to be dismantled (ok, this probably wasn't the main reason, rather she wanted to allow girls to help and protect without falling into despair). A noble idea, I suppose. And, while I'm thinking there would have been ways of doing this without, for all practical purposes, sacrificing one's life, I guess I prefer an ending that has a cost to it than one that doesn't. Not that I was entirely pleased with the Madoka wishes witches away approach. I'm a decent person, but there's no way in hell I'd sacrifice a loving family so a bunch of strangers get to not turn into witches. Especially wouldn't lie to my loving mother like that. But, that's why this show is called Madoka Magica. ;p My only real gripe with the ending (well, outside of it not being some mindblowing out of the left field ending that blew my socks off; yea, I was a little disappointed) was the strange decision to have this new world populated with "demons" now. Really? It makes zero sense, and smacks of laying groundwork for future spinoffs. Especially since no real explanation was given for how this demon killing thing helps QB in what he implied was a better way. It's screaming for a generic shonen manga/anime treatment in the future, especially since it's already seeming to do that in one of the current manga spinoffs. Kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm hoping we don't see Homura Magica Excorcist: Fighting Demon After Demon for 200+ Episodes! in the future. Still, definitely one of the best series in a while, and that's something I never ever in a million years thought I'd say about a magical girl show or any show that features little girls. I also note no flooding scenes. ;p Quote:
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2011-04-21, 23:10 | Link #226 | |
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2011-04-21, 23:14 | Link #228 | |
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2011-04-21, 23:14 | Link #229 |
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The wish itself is a paradox, "to destroy every single witch from past to future in every dimension before it ever happen", so there is no way Madoka could ever become a witch, she would destroy herself if she comes closed to be a witch.
Now the ending raises question, could some other being out there like QB are targeting boys with a "Mahou Shounen" system |
2011-04-21, 23:15 | Link #230 |
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Misreading. The so-called karmic weight comes into the picture after Homura starts going through time loops, or at least that's Kyubey's theory on the matter (remember, he doesn't quite understand the mechanics of magic himself). Personally I still prefer the gravity of the wish influences the power gained, but we do what we can with what the screenwriter gives us.
At least that's what I remember from live stream. Hmm.
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2011-04-21, 23:17 | Link #231 |
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Watching Nutbladder's 11. Stop right there. Your argument is flawed already.
But seriously, I don't believe it was said anywhere in timeline 1 that Madoka got contracted at that time because she was Omega. She only became increasingly powerful after that timeline. |
2011-04-21, 23:19 | Link #233 |
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Maybe because in the original timeline Kyuubey just randomly happened to contract her like every other girl of that age he ran across? You can ask the same question about why he gave a damn about contracting the lackluster Sayaka. He's just maximizing his stable of magical girls. In later timelines he takes notice of her buffed, karmic weight status.
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2011-04-21, 23:21 | Link #236 |
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Finally finished watching both episodes with HQ subs, just wow...my jaw dropped down to the floor and stayed like that.
So Madoka finally realized her wish and became a goddess and re-wrote the entire witch system, effectively re-creating the whole universe also. There are no witches now, but rather there are demons. But atleast the puella magi never have to worry about become witches anymore. And it seems at the end, Homura is now the sole protector of the world and inherited both Madoka's puella magi and witch powers, forever to fight the demons. But as long as she remembers, Madoka will always be with her. IMO, the best and only ending this series could get. A happy, yet sad ending. It was one hell of a ride. Thanks Madoka, for saving us
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2011-04-21, 23:24 | Link #238 | |
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No. There are plenty of other magical girls. Homura is not alone. You see Kyoko and Mami. The system is still in place. They just no longer turn into witches. Unless the twist is they turn into demons now. I kid, I kid. About the turning into demons part. Last edited by creb; 2011-04-21 at 23:37. |
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2011-04-21, 23:24 | Link #239 |
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That doesn't change that his intentions in the original timeline are still pretty obvious. He didn't care about Madoka in any particular way (making the assumption she wasn't already powerful in the original time, that's fine) in the original timeline. He just wanted as many magical girls as possible. He saw Madoka, thought "Mmmm prime target...," and contracted with her. Nothing special about it. Then after the karmic weight kicks in does he care and insist on following her around. Then the "point" of Kyuube following Madoka around as you call it kicks in.
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2011-04-21, 23:24 | Link #240 |
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With each loop, that 'weight' accrues. How, we don't know, and even Kyubey doesn't understand himself, but it just does. All that (yes I prefer the wish gravitas theory) gradually accumulated with each of Madoka's incarnations (we saw four, that doesn't mean there wasn't more), turning her from just a talented magical girl from Homura's original timeline, to the nigh-godlike being in the last one.
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