2011-08-13, 16:17 | Link #102 | |
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Either way, from Romney's blurting of "corporations are people" comment, Perry is likely to take the Republican lead.
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2011-08-13, 16:36 | Link #103 | |
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Honestly, this weekend is bigger for non-frontrunners (like Pawlenty, Santorum, or even Cain), since this could give them a sufficient bump to last till the next debate/straw poll. That being said, I do fear Perry's involvement in this race. He is, in many ways, Bush's "spiritual" successor (albeit with a much greater federal resume, but little to no real charisma), and the last thing this country needs is another Bush... |
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2011-08-13, 16:55 | Link #106 |
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Palin 4 years ago initially appeared to be... a "fresh face"... until she started talking. In this case, there'll be a good 1.5 years to scrutinize Perry's policies. For now, his acts as Texas governor is the place to start.
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2011-08-13, 17:30 | Link #109 | |
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But you know, ideas are probably the deadliest thing. Like when tv was new for example; people saw footage of the authorities hosing down protestors they could no longer deny the racial climate of the country with the ugliness revealed for all to see. Then person by person, they saw that the emperor has no clothes. And that's how change happened. Some people still haven't yet, but it's getting harder and harder to dig your hand in the sand these days. And that's probably why China cares so much about censoring the internet...ideas are that deadly. But don't mind me. I usually just perform actions to serve my own interests the best. But for those people that can do something and have the will, it's something to think about. And telling them is the first step. Edit: Sometimes people just need to know you have a right. I remember last time at jury duty, everyone was so shy and timid when asked if they could be impartial and obviously they had no intention of being there and probably couldn't be impartial anyways, effectively getting bullied away from what they really think just from the folks asking them one more time "are you sure.. blah blah" So I decide to just be flat out honest, state exactly what I thought about corporations and the law, and assert myself no matter how many times they'd ask. And guess what? Everyone starts following suit. So I get out of jury duty, let people they know they have certain rights, and poison an entire pool about the evils of corporations. I'd say that was one of the better days of my life. I know most people don't care, but as long as at least one person gets the message...
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2011-08-13, 18:20 | Link #112 |
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The Ames Straw Poll results are in, and Bachmann is the winner. With 17,000 total votes, Bachmann received 4,823 votes. Surprisingly, Ron Paul was an extremely close second with 4,671 votes (more than quadruple what he received in 2007). Pawlenty managed to score 3rd place with 2,293 votes (which should greatly help his campaign fundraising). Santorum gained 1,657 votes, and Cain drew 1,456 votes. Romney and Gingrich, both of which attempted no strong campaign at the event, drew 567 and 385 respectively. I haven't seen word on what Huntsman or Perry (or Parry ) has received yet.
This was really Bachmann's to lose, so it is no surprise that she gained the most votes (she, along with Pawlenty, supposedly campaigned the hardest and put the most money into her tent). What is surprising is Paul's amazing support. This just goes to show how divided the Republican Party is (I'm not saying that to be derisive or to attack, it is a simple observation of the extremes found in the voting). And, once again, these results mean nothing . This is a simple straw poll and not really indicative of anything. And while this will certainly help Paul, Bachmann and Pawlenty (some), it will not really hurt frontrunner Romney in the least. |
2011-08-13, 19:01 | Link #114 | |
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I think there's a gap for a new, perhaps Democratic Socialist type party. I don't think it would have the universal support nessecary for the presidency, but it could certainly grow in Congress. |
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2011-08-13, 19:14 | Link #115 | |
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2011-08-13, 19:49 | Link #117 | |
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As I said before, elections are not a contest for the voters. There is no "reward" for voting in the winning side if you don't actually support their cause. You vote for who you want to win, not who you think can win.
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2011-08-13, 20:28 | Link #118 | |
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There's that European mindset again. You think the Koch Bros. T-Party is too popular now, just imagine what it would be like if a Democrat-Scocialist party was formed. Ha, Rush Limbaugh's ratings would be astronomical. Americans would flock to the right so fast it would make Hitler stand up in his grave! We have enough quacks, crackpots, and loons in our political system, don't encourage any more.
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2011-08-13, 20:49 | Link #119 | |
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if who you vote for can't win then you should vote for who you agree with more and who can win. otherwise you end up with Bush jr.
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2011-08-13, 20:51 | Link #120 |
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Considering that some people considers part of the Democratic Party to actually be the Democratic-Socialist Party, no one would notice. (most of the far right think that already, so nothing changes).
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