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The first was the one who sealed the Juubi, then Madara and then Nagato. Tobi may be the 4th or the 2nd depending of what or who he is. |
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2012-01-12, 00:50 | Link #24 |
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hmmm... i have mixed emotions about this chapter. the flashbacks were a little too cheesy for my taste so i don't care much for them. but on the other hand, the kagebunshin overdose scene made me laugh and reminded me of how funny this series used to be. it's been a while since i last laughed while reading this series so it was a welcome change. that scene made me forget the tension and seriousness of the current plot and it actually made me enjoy reading it. i miss the days when kishi would incorporate bursts of humor into his fight scenes.
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2012-01-12, 00:53 | Link #25 |
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great chapter! I'm surprised I didnt mind the recap at all. it was well timed and a nice reminiscence of just how far naruto has come. and it's really nice to see sage mode again after so long. I was never too fond of powers being all but forgotten after new ones were learned. kind of like how naruto beat pain with a good ole fashioned rasengan. its very refreshing to read. I'm also loving how kurama looks like naruto's pet now. still no sasuke though... I was kinda expecting an appearance by him after the break
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2012-01-12, 03:50 | Link #26 |
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Now I get it, I think... so the definiton of a sage is a person reowned for their wisdow or power. And both madara, nagato and sage of the six paths have the rinnegan... so a sage is a person who has obtained the rinnegan, and you obtain the rinnegan through either wisdom or power?
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2012-01-12, 05:35 | Link #28 | |
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2012-01-12, 11:30 | Link #31 | |
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The flashback scene was okay/good. The problem with making these flashbacks is that the anime makes these flashbacks ALL THE TIME, and I think that's sad since Kishi rarely make these long flashbacks in the manga. So because the anime makes flashbacks every 10-20th episode or so, the manga fashbacks feels dull and repetitive, when they actually occur quite rarely... The coolest part was of course when Naruto tried to push the chakra reciever from inside Son Goku, that was a brilliant moment God so many sages, plus there are sages like Jiraya and Naruto... but I think I get it now. Thanks for informing me |
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2012-01-12, 11:49 | Link #32 | |
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For some reason, this chapter hit all the right notes for me emotionally. The flashback was well-timed and didn't bother me, Kurama's speech was cool without annoying me. Both were really cheesy, but the way they were pulled off had some kind of weird inspirational music playing in my head as I read it. Just for that, I gave this week's chapter a pass. |
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2012-01-12, 13:38 | Link #33 |
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Naruto actually caused the Snake in the Forest of Death to explode due to the amount of Kage Bushin formed in its stomach. Against the Yonbi, though, we were given a fun image of 100s of clones being thrown-up.
That being said, it was a callback to the earlier encounter. In fact, it was a deliberate callback since it was used to trick the audience (into believing that the current scene copied the earlier scene exactly) as well as Tobi. |
2012-01-12, 13:43 | Link #34 |
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im sorry but this is just boring me too death. i mean the flashbacks has been done too death, i mean naruto doesnt give up. WE KNOW THAT it seems with every step up naruto takes, we get a ten page review of his life, to hammer home the point . and for god sake he we please get back to the kaga madara fight or see what ems sasuke is up too. since this tobi/naruto fight started( i bet most of us have forgotten that naruto is supposed to be fighting tobi) all we have seen is a storyline built around the four-tails who we dont know about and seeing as how kish didnt give us a bit of his history in part one. its hard to care about his plight. its time to move this story along. between madara and the kages and sasuke, i am sorry but there is a lot more interesting battles going on out there. i mean at the end of this whole four tails naruto deal, its not like tobi is going to be beaten right now, more than likely the four or eight tails is going to fall to tobi.
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2012-01-12, 16:23 | Link #36 |
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I'll stick this here.
Naruto vol 50 best selling manga in the US by "direst market sales" for 2011 with 5,536 copies sold. Book store sales will be released in February and will be at least 8 times higher per volume (2010 sales were 10 times higher but sales are down across the board). |
2012-01-12, 17:44 | Link #37 | |
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You're right. I didn't even realize but making Naruto so super duper special (chosen one, son of the Hokage, Uzumaki clan,...) somehow ruined the whole point the manga had. Naruto was nothing special. Every other character had something special about them (except Sakura perhaps) and now everyone is just a shadow in Naruto's light. He doesn't even need to become Hokage at this point anymore. The villagers respect him, they are all his friends, noone's afraid of him and the only thing ruining Naruto's fate is his goddamn promise to Sakura (oh and perhaps the war that is ongoing) Honestly I really don't know why to root for Naruto anymore. I even want Tobi to win this war and do do his plan thingy.
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2012-01-12, 18:05 | Link #38 |
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Yea, I have to agree with the point Ulquiorra raised about the initial intention of the naruto character contrasted with what we now know. it's such a glaring difference between the old and current stories. in the original, I was always under the assumption that naruto was sort of the reincarnation, so to speak, of the 4th. I knew they were alive at the same time so not an actual reincarnation. more like the will of fire continuing on with great and similar konoha ninjas. any resemblances could be chalked up to how gai and lee look so much alike yet they are not related. I thought that was going to be a theme actually... but yea, to have it turn out that naruto had everything handed to him through genetics is very disappointing in light of the first series and what it conveyed about his character's struggles. him being neglected and shunned doesn't make much sense anymore. even for a jinchuuriki, he was too isolated given all this current knowledge. he's no longer an underdog and that's a very big problem for his character since it is so conflicting with how we used to feel when he won a battle or changed someone's mind. now it's like he has all the answers and its not as satisfying when he overcomes the "impossible"
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2012-01-12, 18:13 | Link #39 |
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Not that I'm really arguing that much, because the current Naruto is radically different than the underdog we were shown in the beginning, but what exactly has been "handed" to Naruto? The Kyuubi was, but that's really the only power he uses that he didn't get himself. Him getting nowhere if he wasn't Minato/Kushina's kid is bull; we have no reason to assume his potential has anything to do with that, and we haven't seen anything from him that Kushina may have passed down (though we may, if/when the Kyuubi is taken).
The current Naruto is indeed radically different, but that's entirely a product of his character growth. What reason is there to believe anything else had to do with it? |
2012-01-12, 22:39 | Link #40 | |
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just to qualify my sentiment, I am still loving the manga. this just takes a little away for me when I think about naruto's underdog status. everyone (well mostly) likes rooting for underdogs and I believe that this revelation quells the excitement a bit when naruto pulls off the impossible. was it his determination or is it his elite body and dna that's getting him over the hump? probably a mixture of both, but I prefered it when it was just his determination. |
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