2012-07-23, 01:31 | Link #221 |
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Welp I think this post deserves to be here more. :x
To me this whole racial tension aspect of the recent Total Eclipse episode reminds me of post-WWII mentality that people in America had of the Japanese. Considering that history took a much different route by the 1960's the changes in our timeline that promoted Multiculturalism probably wasn't as strong, as Nationalism was more favored over globalization. This was probably due to countries as a whole fighting for their survival and therefore stoking national unity. This was kinda portrayed in the Alternative VN, where most of the refugee volunteers wanted to fight in order to retake their homelands so to speak. Plus this occurred in the middle of the Cold War, with humanity divided into two major camps and also America is mostly focused on the Post-BETA world, while most countries looked upon the short term issues of pushing the BETA out of Earth.
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According to the VN, the TSF basic controls are more like a set series of moves which are selected by the pilot, together with a partial bio- feedback that reads the pilot's movements to the TSF control board and records it there for future use, allowing pilots to more easily control the TSF the longer they pilot it. There are limitations in this system as the movements are limited by the OS to reduce wear and tear of the mechanical systems, and there is no cancelling or interrupts allowed in the commands, and each input needs to follow the previous. So think of it like a PS1 mech sim. Of course, the adaptive systems only work on one type of unit, so if the mechanics are too different, like what happened with Yuuya, he needs to spend time in the suit again. The XM3 developed by Takeru and Yuuko, on the other hand, is based off his Virtual Off experience. It removes the limiters, and allows for multiple inputs to be added in a series, so the next action can be done instantly instead of waiting for the TSF to recover. Combo actions are also allowed in this manner, as the input of a set series of actions allows for a different 'final action' to take place. Breaks, cancels and interrupts are allowed as well. So its more like the PS2-3 system of games. And at the same time, the XM3 allows recording of movements from a skilled pilot, and can be transferable. So at the end of development, they all were on the bounce.
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2012-07-23, 03:40 | Link #224 | |
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Still doesn't TE go past Alternative? What other SS go past that? It would be nice to know the post Primary Hive efforts to clear the Earth of BETA.
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2012-07-23, 04:17 | Link #225 | |
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And for close-combat, its a culture thing. America has all the bullets they need, and don't see close combat as a viable option, preferring long distance engagement. Other countries do see it as an excellent option, to save bullets, as resources are low. TE might go up to Alt. So far only Succession, Owari, seems to show a bit of post MLA. If you look at the timelines, they started mopping up Hives around 2003. Spoiler for Post MLA:
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2012-07-23, 07:28 | Link #226 |
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Note the A-10, which carries a ridiculous number of guns, and two shoulder-mounted gatlings with ridiculously large (but completely acceptable) ammo drums. America is a firm believer in more dakka. If only a few of those were at Kyoto! Though it probably would't have done much.
To an extent, I can understand the American paradigm, in that BETA excel at close combat, so don't fight them on their terms. It's that wonderfully American trait of disliking fair fights. Also,i find it interesting that the only missile armed TSFs seen so far were the Jolly Rogers Tomcats...
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2012-07-23, 08:16 | Link #227 | |
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..... Dude,ordinary 36mm autocannon can already deal serious damage to anything short of fort class and anything larger. Those huge 6-barrel monster fire at least 10 times faster,which of course equal to 10 times more damage and 10 times more ammo consumption rate Although they need a VERY stable supply line,they will definitely stop just about anything in its path. |
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2012-07-23, 10:34 | Link #230 | |
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For missiles, actually all TSF can equip them. Check out the wiki page for more info. They are shoulder mounted for most variants.
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2012-07-23, 11:43 | Link #231 | |
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Yuuya's entire flying style revolves around abusing his TSF's acceleration and speed to jink around and outmaneuver the opponent, and he's been doing well with that so far. But right now Yuuya's trying to toss the Fubuki about with thrusters alone based on his existing training, being inexperienced in the use of the kind of extra aerodynamic control surfaces that the Fubuki relies heavily on, so he's not controlling his machine properly as per Japanese design philosophy. (Not to say that the Americans don't also make light maneuverable designs like the F-5, F-16, F-18 etc) It's basically simple incompatibility in American and Japanese pilot training, it might not be too farfetched to say that an Imperial pilot might have issues trying to handle something like the Raptor for the first time in the opposite direction in terms of control issues, seeing as the Raptor is basically designed to push out massive quantities of thrust to get around. |
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2012-07-23, 21:33 | Link #234 | |
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In the end of Alternative and in the assault on the Original Hive, the BETA learned to not shoot those rounds down and were able to focus their beams, to Takeru's despair. |
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2012-07-23, 21:41 | Link #235 | |
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And the final part, Spoiler for MLA:
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2012-07-23, 21:50 | Link #236 | |
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2012-07-23, 21:55 | Link #237 | |
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I'll go take a look at Marimo's training again. This seems incredibility inefficient as a mode of delivery.
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2012-07-23, 22:03 | Link #238 |
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Well, up until the Original Hive assault, the BETA ALWAYS shot down any incoming missiles. Military planners had every reason to presume they'll keep doing it; it was only in that last operation that the BETA stopped doing it. Besides, air-burst timers cost money.
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2012-07-24, 00:56 | Link #239 | |
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Minus the 1997 Yui arc. TE technically started on march of 2001 and the Published LN volume ends the story on a cliffhanger at Early October. Takeru won't arrive in the alternative world until October 22 2001 if i remember correct. But the Hints and teaser Age have been dropping for the last couple year all point to the suggestion that TE will go up to the Original Hive assault most likely with Argos deploying alongside the Russians in one of the worldwinde Hive distractions. Last edited by Angrypokstick; 2012-07-24 at 01:09. |
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2012-07-24, 01:58 | Link #240 |
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^ Sword of the West, why are you so dazzling and irresistible? With the MK-57, it's just impossible not to be love-stuck. <3
ahem. ok. Enough creepy jokes. Does anyone know this sexy lady? Judging from it's shoulders and chest area, I can deduce that it's European. Not to mention, the head reminds me so much of Typhoon. |
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