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Work your way back from the fundamental premise of the whole thing (at least what is claimed): Mitsuhiro is guaranteed a role in the final, BD/DVD-only arc of Kokoro Connect from the get-go, and he will also be their PR guy over the course of the show. So they create a story around this. A story of a voice actor down on his luck, who thinks he's going to get his big break and ends up being spurned by a nasty prank. Poor guy! But he's a hard worker, and people cheer for him as he works in the trenches to support the show as their PR spokesperson. And then at the end of the whole process, "surprise!" you've actually gotten a role after all. All his hard work paid off! Happy End. So, in order to fit into this story, he had to claim certain things at certain points in time: 1. After the prank was pulled, before this became a big deal: "I had no idea, but we agreed to do the PR job, and I'm going to work hard!" 2. After the prank turned into a firestorm, but before the "secret" was revealed: "I didn't know, but I really wasn't being pranked......" 3. Then the secret is out: actually, we've all known all along but we had to keep it a secret because we had a whole event planned for the reveal... The problem is the premise was too believable, the acting was too believable, and other people got involved who were not part of the script and believed it (precisely because it was too realistic -- to the point where it could be taken to be legitimately real if not for knowing about that very first point; the acting job was already in the bag). Then the producers made a stupid move to try to salvage the situation (trying to preserve the secret still), and only made it worse. I realize this is assuming that the claims made by the production committee are fundamentally true. But although I believe this whole scenario was poorly-conceived on many levels (it's too realistic to find funny, and it's a "joke" about bullying), I find this theory much more plausible given the amount of people involved to pull this off. The problem is, of course, that the theory can't be proven because, no matter what anyone says or claims now, people will believe they were told to lie now so that the higher-ups can save face. And that's why it's always going to remain something of an urban legend no matter what, and people will believe what they want. There's no way to prove it without actual physical evidence that Mitsuhiro's staff knew about the entire plan beforehand (and even if you had that, I'm sure some would question it to the bitter end). So, at this point, we'll never know...
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That goes back to my previous comment about the need to be informed that this is going on beforehand..
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2012-10-06, 02:26 | Link #404 |
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Another lesson learned: Never mess with the Internet.
If not for the Internet, the phalluses wouldn't have reached KitaEri's Twitter, the assholes with Twitter accounts could not have made those controversial remarks, and the entire fiasco wouldn't have been immortalized for all of eternity..
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2012-10-06, 03:03 | Link #405 | |
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^To be precise, they weren't messing with the internet per se. Their announcement said that the prank show was never intended to be uploaded on to Nico Douga, and even after footage of it had been uploaded, the incident only blew up after the Internet-CSI Brigade dug up the Eufonius member's tweets.
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2012-10-06, 12:24 | Link #407 |
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Also, industry-wise, such pranks are sort of expected in the Japanese entertainment industry, which probably only the Koreans and possibily the Taiwanese have any particular understanding of. It's not something you're likely to see happening in Hollywood, for example.
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2012-10-06, 15:07 | Link #408 |
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Ah, Americans are too sensitive on this kind of thing. I like America a lot, but you have to admit there's a lot of people with thin skins, quick to take offence and even quicker to file a lawsuit. When you get to Hollywood, those skins are as thin as you can get.
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2012-10-10, 17:55 | Link #412 | |
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I mean - it's only common sense, right?
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2012-10-10, 18:56 | Link #413 | |
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If the whole thing were so very abnormal to start with, it wouldn't have slipped under the radar in the first place. As Sumeragi said, everyone would have assumed that he was in on the prank. It wasn't until the insinuation was made that he may not have known that triggered the sleuthing that triggered the blow-up. In truth, I think the reason many Western fans were upset by the event was a bit subtly different than why the Japanese fans were upset, but again the conglomeration of circumstances resulted in the controversy quickly being spread overseas. In any case, I think there are elements of truth in many perspectives, but this issue is too polarizing. Maybe the day will come, some day down the road, when more information will surface and we can get a clearer view of what really went on. But until then, I think I'll lock this thread to help put the issue behind us. If there's a good reason to revive it (i.e. some new developments or news come out), please feel free to PM me or any other member of the staff. Edit: In my original post I original said "You're being stupid", which in my part of the world has the same effect as saying "You're being silly/absurd" or "You're over-exaggerating way too much". But this sort of saying may not translate well across cultures, so I've changed it now to be more clear. I apologize if any offence was caused by my use of this "slang".
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