2013-07-07, 03:39 | Link #621 | |
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I guess that's why this series is getting more attention than anything else this season. |
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2013-07-07, 07:42 | Link #622 |
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I have to add that I completely agree with Reckoner regarding the discussion on girly guys. Anyone who doesn't see how these guys act like moeblobs probably hasn't ever been around normal guys in her life. And don't use that excuse "Japan is different" or "this isn't supposed to be realistic". There's a difference between making people act unrealistic for the purposes of creativity or emphasis and making them act downright opposite of what anyone in real life acts, especially when you make the whole cast like that. It breaks my immersion and makes me feel uncomfortable because these characters feel like aliens and not in the least like anyone from real life. It's like making a child act like an adult and expecting the audience to accept it just because other characters treat it as normal.
You reminded me of the only thing I truly liked in this show, because it's the same thing my father used to tell me, except my talent is drawing. What he meant is that seeing a 12 year old good artist is not the same as seeing a good artist in his twenties and that I should do something with my talent while I still have time and will for it (and while my competition is still weak, heh). I'm guessing that's what the grandma in the show meant. |
2013-07-07, 08:10 | Link #623 |
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Frankly neither anime women nor anime men are realistic. They are both archetypes; and the archetypes are actually interchangeable. The Tsundere, for example, was actually a male character type far earlier than before it became popular for female characters.
The fact that one might view Free characters as "feminine" is very likely because you never saw these traits portrayed in male characters, purely because you haven't seen much Shoujou manga. These character types are not new, and definitely not new for male characters. They are no less men than women in male oriented shows not being "feminine" enough.
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2013-07-07, 08:16 | Link #624 |
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Grandma's phrase also resonated with me a lot.
There's a certain level of talent and/or intelligence that'll get you heavily noticed as a kid, noticed to a fair degree as a teenager, but seen as just normal for an adult. The reason is that a school/community is only a "small pond" (or a small pool might be a better analogy in this case ) compared to the wider world. As a kid you're measured against your immediate peers, so it's not hard to stand out in one way or another - "immediate" peers meaning your peers that go to the same school as you do. As an adult, you're measured against the general population - So you go from a small pond to a much larger pond, or rather from a small pool to a huge pool. So it's a lot harder to stand out as an adult than as a kid. So a lot of kids are treated like a big deal during their youth, but then are just ordinary in the adult world.
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2013-07-07, 09:05 | Link #627 | |
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I think earlier on in the thread some people were saying that when they said things like "they're acting like girls" they meant "they're acting like unrealistic moeblob anime girls", but working on the assumption that people will instantly guess an unstated position that girls = moeblob anime girls is not a great idea. |
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2013-07-07, 09:14 | Link #628 | |
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Triple_R, that was very nicely put.
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Many women in male oriented shows are too feminine. They talk in an overdone cutesy, squeaky way or overdone polite way, they obsess over anything cute, they touch and hug eachother in an unnatural exaggerated manner, they're annoyingly enthusiastic and overreact to everything. Still, this is an overreaction that is at least somewhat grounded in reality (the whole "girls act girly" aspect). Doesn't make it any less annoying and uncreative, but still. The guys here act in all ways anime girls act, they say cheesy stuff like "isn't this romantic?", they touch eachother way too much, they have distinctly feminine mannerisms, like covering their mouths when giggling, bobbing their heads to the side and calling each other -chan. That's not writing unrealistically, that's downright going out of your way to make guys act like moeblobs and it's not necessary for the tropes they're using. Last edited by Blonto; 2013-07-07 at 11:23. |
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2013-07-07, 13:22 | Link #631 | |
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*reads some of the above posts*
*sits on hands, does not engage* However, let me just say... Quote:
(She's cute, though.) |
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2013-07-07, 13:57 | Link #632 | |
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It would be unusual though if Haruka's character was female. Usually the main females of Kyoani shows tend to be eccentric and energetic girls. I don't think they've had the stoic/cynic trope in form of a female lead, but they do seem to love overusing the trope for their male leads. |
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2013-07-07, 17:49 | Link #633 | |
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The guy on the left side already appeared in the preview for Ep2. So it’s safe to say that there will actually be some team matches between them. The cute teacher will be their coach and Gou the team manager, I hope at least, Riko was already a refreshing character in KnK. |
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2013-07-07, 20:34 | Link #634 |
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BADUMDISH!
Why are some of you harping on realism? Come on now....it's an anime for God's sake... Or is this the new 'KYOANI RUINED MAH FANDOM THANKS FUJOSHITS'? Girl Haruka is totally adorable.
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2013-07-07, 20:49 | Link #635 |
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While I can agree with Nagisa being too effeminate and Makoto looking like having a little tendency, you're overreacting too much. I do cover my mouth when I giggle in certain situations.
Because anime is realistic. Just like my waifu.
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2013-07-07, 21:11 | Link #636 |
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The first episode has a quite forgetable intro story, but the animation is great. The feel reminds me about Tari Tari and Kokoro Connect. The show has people meeting and talking to each other, but the story direction is vague. It was different from my initial expectation. I thought it will be another Water Boys 2001, the school comedy around the swimming pool.
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2013-07-08, 01:27 | Link #638 | |
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Guess I should just straight out laugh out loud when I find something funny/silly and do an out of place laughter.
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2013-07-08, 02:17 | Link #640 | |
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Errr... looking forward to the 2nd episode.
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