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2013-10-19, 21:57 | Link #31282 |
books-eater youkai
Join Date: Dec 2007
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US quietly releasing $1.6B in Pakistan assistance
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-19-11-28-34 AP source: Govt, JPMorgan reach tentative deal http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-19-18-33-49
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2013-10-20, 00:14 | Link #31283 | |
廉頗
Join Date: Feb 2004
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I've also seen people with section 8 assistance who work hard and have to struggle to support families as single mothers (and one time there was a single father, though that's more rare to see). There's two sides to this coin. I personally don't think the freeloaders are a near-zero, totally insignificant amount like bleeding heart liberals want to claim. I also don't think they're a majority like your right wing lunatics harp on about. No idea on percentage, but I do think it's a problem, and both sides should chill with the hyperbole so we can tackle this more sensibly instead of rushing to one side "the problem doesn't exist" or the other "the whole system of welfare should be abolished". That being said... this whole debate pitting the poor against the middle class (upper middle and lower middle) is surely a nice distraction for the uber upper class 1% whose un-utilized wealth could easily ameliorate this issue if it were distributed more equitably in the first place. "I-make-six-figures" GOP guy is just as much of a microscopic ant as broke welfare guy to these 1%'ers in terms of sheer enormity of wealth. |
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2013-10-20, 00:49 | Link #31284 |
Logician and Romantic
Join Date: Nov 2004
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It just is hard to take the claim about how there are all those freeloaders, when coming from the mouths of those who also claim there is mass voter fraud.
We know voter fraud is near non-existent (And all KNOWN fraud cases ended up being committed by Republicans.), but the Tea Party still claim otherwise. So any other claims of statistics from these same people on other matters are just as likely to be suspect.
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2013-10-20, 01:03 | Link #31285 | |
cho~ kakkoii
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With the voter fraud, the cry for it will increase in every presidential election if the GOP maintains its current path. The ethnic group which vote mostly Republican are losing in population count. It is said that by 2020, white population in the US will already be in the minority. While they may be able to control the House by commonly used tactics such as redrawing/gerrymandering district, national election will reflect the opinion of the majority rather than how a select group of people/ethnicity wants their government to be. Despite such prospect, GOP are doing everything they shouldn't to ensure diversity in their voters. And if this persist, GOP actually might split and we may even have a three party system in the US.
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2013-10-20, 01:25 | Link #31286 | |
Logician and Romantic
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That's a pipe dream of course. But having the Tea Party splitting might be good enough on its own to make the Democrats go back to the left again.
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2013-10-20, 02:01 | Link #31288 | |
Logician and Romantic
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It takes many years of good education to reverse that programming, and learn to have the evidence before believing in it. In the case of Tea Party, they believe Obama is the source of all evil, and then they find everything they don't like and say Obama did it. It makes sense... If you never learned how to think critically.
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2013-10-20, 02:18 | Link #31289 |
cho~ kakkoii
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lol.. VCV, Tea Party is not as bad as they are made out to be. If you want to get a glimpse of the thinking behind the ideology Tea Party operates on, it has mostly to do with fear of uncertainty. SeijiSensei has few very good posts that outlines some of those thinking.
And Obama isn't as squeaky clean as he is made out to be. Under his presidency civil liberty has taken some serious blow. He has utilized and extended Patriot Act to a new height. His vision also doesn't answer legit question such as how a country can keep spending while piling on its ever growing debt. It's a matter of two vision colliding with two sets of ideology.
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2013-10-20, 02:23 | Link #31290 |
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Civil liberty is overrated. Most of the time all I'm seeing is hypocritical selfishness packaged as being a liberal idea.
Frankly, I say Obama is the best thing to happen to the United States: He's curbing the excess of all extremist views that having tearing America apart. |
2013-10-20, 02:31 | Link #31291 |
Logician and Romantic
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I am well aware that Obama wasn't who we wanted him to be.
However, what he ended up being, was what we hoped a good Republican president would be. Now I am still mad that he is a Republican at heart, but that's still a better deal than what the NEW Republicans have in mind. The only reason Obama did all those things with surveillance and drone strikes, and get away with it,is because the GOP supports it. Sadly bipartisan issues are never gonna be challenged. However that doesn't make the Tea Party right to oppose him. Because the Tea Party are NOT against the surveillance OR the Drone strikes.
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2013-10-20, 03:29 | Link #31293 |
cho~ kakkoii
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Not to veer off too far off-topic, in a way it is true. Time, place, and circumstance. One of the wider phenomenon to dwindling crime rate in the US can be contributed to the increased amount of surveillance, whether it's public or private. That said the liberal hypocritical selfish in me still notes a silent protest at how quickly civil-liberty is becoming an ancient phrase. Heck, at this rate the ideas highlighted in The Light of Other Days may become a reality very soon. I may need not wear pants anymore even when I'm not inside my house.
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2013-10-20, 06:02 | Link #31294 |
books-eater youkai
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Analysis: Despite budget win, Obama has weak hand with Congress
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/to...31020?irpc=932 Insight: Hard work, long hours: French find Chinese recipe sour http://mobile.reuters.com/article/to...31020?irpc=932
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2013-10-20, 09:20 | Link #31295 |
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The WCS would be that the Tea party gets full control of the GOP and ramps up the radicalization and this whole mess ends in a civil war. Reading several previous comments a draw the parallel with the Spanish civil war fought just before WWII; conservatives (from the country and suburban area) fought against liberals (mostly from cities) because they thought the liberal government was driving the nation into ruin. After that came several decades of repression that ended by sheer luck (Franco's successor was assassinated and he was too old and senile to choose another one and had centralized all political power in his hands so no one else could do it).
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2013-10-20, 09:30 | Link #31296 |
Hige
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Why have young people in Japan stopped having sex?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ped-having-sex
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2013-10-20, 10:57 | Link #31297 | |
AS Oji-kun
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Uehara Koji named MVP of the American League Championship Series
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Some telling statistics: In the regular season, Uehara struck out 101 batters in 74 1/3 innings pitched and threw just nine walks. In the two postseason series, Uehara gave up a solo home run to Tampa Bay, but otherwise struck out 13 batters and walked no one in nine games. I love how he and David Ortiz now have this ritual where Ortiz lifts the much smaller pitcher over his shoulder, and Koji pats Papi's butt.
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2013-10-20, 11:21 | Link #31298 | |
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2013-10-20, 11:26 | Link #31299 | |
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Update about Harmony Gold's lawsuit I posted some pages back.
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2013-10-20, 11:30 | Link #31300 | |
I disagree with you all.
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