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Old 2006-03-01, 16:00   Link #21
JanthraX^
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omg the first 5 minutes where great, awesome action andship battle, i was expecting more,

a head strong female led battleship, cool action great storyline

BUT, wtf all i got was 'tactical' shots of a camera panning from ass to tits, which always had erect nipples, obviuos plot, that male tech falls in love with pilot and gets closer to his sister blah blah,

i thought i was gonna get a good action anime with a bit of a storyline but i got a fanservice anime =[ , ahwell
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Old 2006-03-01, 23:00   Link #22
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A harem anime based on a warship makes about as much sense as snakes on a plane. That said, I agree that it could be interesting if they calm down a bit with the fan service.

One question though, have they addressed why there is a very large shortage of men? I'm not even talking about in the main cast, but in at least 2 scenes in ep 1 (on the Ariplane and the Beach) there doesn't look like there is a single male, to be seen even in the backround. The airport did have some guys however it looked like the male population was about 1/3 of the female population. Can anyone tell me if this is a part of the storyline, or if this is just a factor in most harem animes that I for some reason didn't notice.
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Old 2006-03-01, 23:14   Link #23
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Most of the men were killed by all those boobs that keep flying around. >.>

There's the Tomboy(TM), Super-smart Loli(TM), Older "Lusty" female(TM), Older "Wise and calm" female(TM)... Did I miss anyone? :\

Here I was, ready for something along the lines of Tide Blue Line, which showed that Navel-centered anime can be done and done very well. I should have caught up on more Otome episodes instead.
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Old 2006-03-02, 00:32   Link #24
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Most of the men were killed by all those boobs that keep flying around. >.>

There's the Tomboy(TM), Super-smart Loli(TM), Older "Lusty" female(TM), Older "Wise and calm" female(TM)... Did I miss anyone? :\

Here I was, ready for something along the lines of Tide Blue Line, which showed that Navel-centered anime can be done and done very well. I should have caught up on more Otome episodes instead.
You forgot Poland. Actually, I think you did miss the twins(TM).

Overall, the anime seems kind of generic to me, the animation is a bit weak, and the CG sequences are pretty bad. I'm still glad I got a chance to see it subbed though. I guess since there was fanservice, it wasn't a total loss.

If you wanna read my full rant about Tactical Roar, it's here. Otherwise, the previous paragraph pretty much sums up how I feel.
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Old 2006-03-02, 00:55   Link #25
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...the animation is a bit weak, and the CG sequences are pretty bad.
The animation is very weak™. No equivocation about that. I’d say the main draw to this show is the yuri and watching a person conflicted love what she most hates.

Otherwise….
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Old 2006-03-02, 06:38   Link #26
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The animation is very weak™. No equivocation about that. I’d say the main draw to this show is the yuri and watching a person conflicted love what she most hates.

Otherwise….
Nothing personal but I'm rather appalled at how many are putting too much expectations on the visual aspect of anime. For a veteran anime fan like me, series like this look golden compared to the classic anime of even the late 90's (eg How many of you guys here watched Marmalade Boy? If you did and critique it now, I'll probably see a lot of flames about the visuals and the character designs, like how the girls look horribly anorexic, and how greatly the character's heights vary from time to time - eg at one point girl A is about equal in height to boy A, next scene boy A is a HEAD TALLER that girl A. Of course that didn't bother me because the storyline and character development were excellent).

Anyway, so far Tactical Roar is a great series combining action, comedy, and drama in a well balanced mix for yet another harem series, and for someone like me who's usually not into action/sci-fi (I'm into pure romance stuff like Canvas 2 and Lamune), this one is an exception.

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Old 2006-03-02, 06:53   Link #27
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Perfect.

This show has one too many guys in it already as far as I'm concerned. If any of you would have read a review or watched a raw you would have known what this show was about. It's not a navy documentary, it's a harem/action anime. And I'll tell you this, it just gets more haremy fanservicey as it progresses. If your not into harem or service don't gripe here, just go watch something else.
Leave this thread for those of us who want to watch this show.



What's with all the fanservice hate out here anyways?

There are only 3 legitimate reasons you can't like service as far as I'm concerned:

(1) Your religious and feel that you may be causing yourself to sin by looking at cartoon T&A. I can respect that, it's a legitimate grievance. Maybe just be a little more conscientious in the selection of your viewing choices before you pick a show to view.

(2)Your a heterosexual female. I can understand this too, I wouldn't want to see a male character prancing around in his tighty whitey's either.

(3)Your a Yoai type of fellow. Well this one I don't get, but to each his own. However if your watching a show aimed at heterosexual males, don't act shocked and hop on a message board to register your shock at all the anime jiggle. Just go watch "A Papa to Kiss in the Dark" again and I swear I won't hop on a message board complaining about all the Shounen-Ai in that one. The last two sentences apply to #2 as well.

The rest of you are full of it.
Stop trying to impress people over teh internets with displays of your anime sophistication. All you teenage boys, anime forums are a lousy place to try to impress people or pick up girls with the "Oh, I hate fanservice, I'm sophisticated in my anime viewing choices" line.
Most of you guys are 15-21 year old males who feel a certain something just looking at a table leg, and even if you have girlfriends or wives, I know most of you enjoy this stuff.

Bunch of hypocrites.
I swear Im not one of the hypocrites. I actually enjoy shows like He is my Master, and that should tell you enough.

Well, simple explanation as to why alot of people say that "theres too much fanservice" would probably be due to:
1) They want more story progression than pantsu shots, even if they do enjoy the shots nonetheless.
2) Thy're jumping on the bandwagon of critisizing shows that have fanservice, hence hypocrite.

On-topic: Not sure if I'll pick up this title...maybe when the subs pick up.
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Old 2006-03-02, 08:44   Link #28
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The only "pantsu shot" I know of yet is the one in the OP. Right before Clio put's her right leg over her left. I don't know how it will turn out in episode 2, but it seems like things are starting to happen.
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Old 2006-03-02, 11:00   Link #29
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Perfect.

(snip)

What's with all the fanservice hate out here anyways?

(snip)

The rest of you are full of it.
Stop trying to impress people over teh internets with displays of your anime sophistication. All you teenage boys, anime forums are a lousy place to try to impress people or pick up girls with the "Oh, I hate fanservice, I'm sophisticated in my anime viewing choices" line.
Most of you guys are 15-21 year old males who feel a certain something just looking at a table leg, and even if you have girlfriends or wives, I know most of you enjoy this stuff.

Bunch of hypocrites.
I don't mean to sound like a hypocrite, I like fan service as much as the next guy; I just feel that they should limit it a little bit. I think of fan service like I do spices (sorry I'm half-Italian), when used moderately they can make something that was mediocre into something great. However, I wouldn’t want someone to put a bean into a bowl, fill the bowl with salt, and then expect me to eat it. If my entire goal of watching an anime was the fan service, then the internet provides something a little more … satisfying.

In other words:
Plot = Good
Plot + Fan Service = Great
Fan Service – Plot = Not Good
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Old 2006-03-02, 13:53   Link #30
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The rest of you are full of it.
Stop trying to impress people over teh internets with displays of your anime sophistication. All you teenage boys, anime forums are a lousy place to try to impress people or pick up girls with the "Oh, I hate fanservice, I'm sophisticated in my anime viewing choices" line.
Most of you guys are 15-21 year old males who feel a certain something just looking at a table leg, and even if you have girlfriends or wives, I know most of you enjoy this stuff.
I absolutrely agree. Anime are a form of ENTERTAINMENT before being a form of art, and some people should go back to that point of view. Not every anime can be Zipang or Yomigaeru Sora, and while we have some shows like that, that are a pure form of psychological art it'0s good to have some shows just to have a laugh or two. There's no reason why they should be shunned just for some fanservice, even because i kinda remember having an anime many solons absolutely adored that had the voice of one of the main characters screaming "service service!" at the end of almost every episode...
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Old 2006-03-02, 14:15   Link #31
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ok ok , fanservice is good, but too much is a put off, some parts of the ep where very funny, while some where just a bit weird,
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Old 2006-03-02, 14:16   Link #32
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Nothing personal but I'm rather appalled at how many are putting too much expectations on the visual aspect of anime.
Not at all.

I'm a huge fan of the first season of Slayers TV. I love lowbrow animation...the lower the frame rate the better sometimes. I like this show quite a bit. I merely thought the animation could have been better in spots. It's not as bad as Love Love or Koi Koi Seven, but merely making one critical comment on the animation quality doesn't condemn the show. It's fine and my comments are purely subjective. I tend to view each show on it’s own merits.

Cheers.
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Old 2006-03-02, 15:26   Link #33
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I found this 1st episode really boring and with a lot of cliché in it ....
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Old 2006-03-02, 15:59   Link #34
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You can say that for most anime today, that they are built on classic anime cliche's.
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Old 2006-03-02, 17:56   Link #35
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You can say that for most anime today, that they are built on classic anime cliche's.
Yes I know, but this one was reallyyyyy boring and without anything new .
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Old 2006-03-02, 21:23   Link #36
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The whole argument about criticizing the art, animation, fanservice, etc. of an anime series probably comes from the fact that some people watch too much anime that they develop certain taste and expectations. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion though.
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Old 2006-03-03, 04:03   Link #37
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Tactical Roar is like Vandread, a vessel/ship operated by beautiful girls with a few men onboard fighting the enemy, don't you think? Lots of Ecchi, comedy and action!

The only difference is Vandread is in Space! Tactical Roar is at Sea!

And of course, Men are not fighting Women in tactical roar like in Vandread.

I would say that is the main reason why i enjoy Tactical Roar is due to the similarities of Vandread.


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Old 2006-03-03, 04:14   Link #38
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I watched ep 1 and didn't get interested at all. I read some post back there that it was getting interesting around ep 8-9. I hope it does so. My impression of the ep 1 is that everything was pointless... even the fanservice. I like fanservice but the was it was presented in this ep sux.
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Old 2006-03-08, 16:26   Link #39
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Hi!

Fresh back from watching the subbed ep 2, and currently having a beast of a time tracking down live torrents of the early raws (which is what happens when the subs are seven eps behind...) No hints, please - don't want to get banned, and I've already got most of them downloading as is. I can live with the gaps until subs are available.

ANYWAY... I say so what if the fanservice is blatant - that's the whole point! The clichés are only overdone to those who pretty much watch everything on the air, and who really should get a life...

I'm watching this because I like mecha shows, and this one has mecha that are at least passably realistic, even if the crew's personalities aren't. Hell, in its own way, it's more realistic than Zipang - because unlike that show, I can't categorically point to blatantly wrong technical details, like the seriously screwy armament of the Mirai, and how it looks like two different ships depending on whether you're looking at it from the front or rear... (which is a separate rant that I should really post in the appropriate forum, instead of here.)

I have one plot-related issue so far, though: Why on earth would the crew of a chartered privateer vessel get punished for *damage* on a returned stolen vessel? I'd have expected the military to have "sink on sight" orders for the ship in the first place, just to get it out of enemy hands - getting it back at all would be considered a huge bonus.

Historically, capturing an enemy ship and bringing it back home would have netted the crew (not the owners, just the ship's captain and crew) 10% of the vessel's value as prize money, to divide amongst themselves. Unless it was their chartered mission to do it, damages would have been deducted before their prize money...

Also, regardless of what position that fat buffoon that was manhandling the XO held (was he a representative of the client, or the ship's owners?), had I been the captain I'd have told him to get off and walk home if he disagreed with my course of action - and at the very least, he'd have returned ashore escorted directly from the brig by the (wo)man-at-arms.... At sea, it's the captain's ship, period.

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Old 2006-03-12, 15:14   Link #40
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