(L) BlazBlue Alter Memory

[JiCi]

Spoiler for Episode 6:

- Bang Shishigami's first appearance... and surprisingly, they gave him a better role and exposure.
- Makoto isn't with Jin and Bang when touring around Ronin-Gai.
- Litchi is present when Jin is taken care off instead.
- They skipped the part where Rachel locks Yukianesa from Jin.
- Oddly enough, Kokonoe just doesn't appear in front of Ragna with Lambda.
- Tsubaki killing Jin... that came out of the blue.
- Takamagahara hitting the reset button... I take that back, THAT came out of the blue.

Still pretty good ^_^

[Xero8420]

It sounds like Hazama is pulling the string from her back. Can I say Tsubaki suddenly stabbed Jin out of the blue was a NTR scene until the trio push the 'deus ex machina' reset button?

[Frailty]

Originally Posted by JiCi

Spoiler for Episode 6:

- They skipped the part where Rachel locks Yukianesa from Jin.
- Oddly enough, Kokonoe just doesn't appear in front of Ragna with Lambda.

Spoiler for game spoiler. Response purposes:

-Rachel never locked Yukianesa. When Rachel sent Jin to her house, it was probably to test his control over his power of order. Also she had Valk fix his wounds. Why he couldn't use Yukianesa was because contrary to the belief that Jin was manipulating Yukianesa, it was actually Yukianesa controlling Jin. Hence, he couldn't unsheath Yukianesa for the time being simply because it refuses to. It was during his fight with Tsubaki at the end of Jin's story mode that he was able to control Yukianesa (With the help of his Power of Order, I think).
-Kokonoe never went to Kagutsuchi. When we see her speaking in the gam
es' story mode, it's through their head or some kind of communicator.

[JiCi]

Originally Posted by Frailty

Spoiler for game spoiler. Response purposes:

-Rachel never locked Yukianesa. When Rachel sent Jin to her house, it was probably to test his control over his power of order. Also she had Valk fix his wounds. Why he couldn't use Yukianesa was because contrary to the belief that Jin was manipulating Yukianesa, it was actually Yukianesa controlling Jin. Hence, he couldn't unsheath Yukianesa for the time being simply because it refuses to. It was during his fight with Tsubaki at the end of Jin's story mode that he was able to control Yukianesa (With the help of his Power of Order, I think).
-Kokonoe never went to Kagutsuchi. When we see her speaking in the games' story mode, it's through their head or some kind of communicator.

Spoiler for Game spoiler:

- Doesn't Rachel send Jin back while saying that a handicap was put on, and that it was for Jin, not for Ragna?
- Well, yeah, that's what I meant. Kokonoe doesn't talk directly to Ragna in the anime, where she does in the game.

[shadow1296]

wow i didn't think they would actually use that mechanic in the anime, then again it is the continuum shift part of the anime so i guess they would have to use it once

[Klashikari]

You know something is wrong when they make Bang says ジン殿, even though this would never happen at all (in Jin case, it would be just the full name or お主/貴様)
Well I guess the anime staff did some efforts with Takamagahara, although it is still a bit contradictory if you think a bit about it.

Generally speaking, it is an average episode with even more glaring issues with fight composition (Ragna deflecting Lambda's swords was beyond awkward) and music direction.

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by s07195

Um, Rachel? Giving a boy an Azure Grimoire isn't a ripple... IT'S A GIANT WAVE.

Waves starts out as ripples. Her choice of words isn't wrong.

[Meltyred]

Wow, they made Bang look much less silly then in-game, and Jin actually has a proper conversation with someone not going insane or him going insane in the middle.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Please enlighten me as I never played the game.

The mysterious council of vagueness unleashed Hazama with awareness of the time loop. Now that Tsubaki killed Jin under Hazama's control it goes against their plan. So they had to rewind and change the outcome.

If Hazama is such a pain in the ass why allow him with his memory in the first place?

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Please enlighten me as I never played the game.

The mysterious council of vagueness unleashed Hazama with awareness of the time loop. Now that Tsubaki killed Jin under Hazama's control it goes against their plan. So they had to rewind and change the outcome.

If Hazama is such a pain in the ass why allow him with his memory in the first place?

Takamagahara needs Terumi's power and knowledge to deal with something else, which will be revealed later on.
Of course, Takamagahara is allways overconfident in themselves due to their ability to alter the out come of events as they want.

BTW, what we see there technically is not a rewind button but a different type of phenomenon, which will also be revealed later on.

[Triple_R]

On the bright side, this show does have some very colorful and often interesting characters. Mr. Bang and Jin the Snarkmeister had some good chemistry in this episode, while Ragna continues to be amusing in his over-the-top complete lack of anger management. This anime also reminds me a lot of 1990s Image comics, given its character designs (especially the big red bulky guy), constantly raging vaguely super-powered fighters, and its generally EXTREME! but oddly minimalist style.


On the bad side, I'm back to not understanding this plot again.

I echo ReddyRedWolf's confusion.

What is this Council of Three Chairs thinking? I thought they wanted Hazama to eliminate some problems for them? If they don't want Jin to get killed, then why are they letting Hazama have an order put out for him to be killed?

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

What is this Council of Three Chairs thinking? I thought they wanted Hazama to eliminate some problems for them? If they don't want Jin to get killed, then why are they letting Hazama have an order put out for him to be killed?

Well, Terumi's primary "observer" has shifted to Noel instead of Takamagahara (as shown in ep.3), thus Takamagahara's control over Terumi is drastically reduced.
And again, due to their overconfidence in their abilities to alter the out come of the events; they didn't take the matter very seriously.
As long as Terumi complete their ultimate goal, they'll just let things slide.

[ReddyRedWolf]

To me the council of vagueness are like Vorlons obsessed with their Circle timeloop but their chosen pawn is the Joker.

[Dawnstorm]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

What is this Council of Three Chairs thinking? I thought they wanted Hazama to eliminate some problems for them? If they don't want Jin to get killed, then why are they letting Hazama have an order put out for him to be killed?

Let me just say: my take is pretty different from shmaster's, though that might be me having incomplete information and/or faulty memory. I do understand your confusion. It's going to get better, then worse in waves. Either get used to it, or quit.

Other than that, I daren't say anything. It's the type of story where it's not really easy to tell what counts as a spoiler, or if your interpretation of events is right in the first place.

I thought this episode was a bit weaker than the previous one, but it did a good job of summerising the major factions, and its starting to tune up the info on "seithr" (which I always read as a blend of "seething aether", or alternatively as an approximation of "seizure" - heh). Can't wait for a certain character to make an appearance...

[molitar]

Originally Posted by shmaster

Takamagahara needs Terumi's power and knowledge to deal with something else, which will be revealed later on.
Of course, Takamagahara is allways overconfident in themselves due to their ability to alter the out come of events as they want.

BTW, what we see there technically is not a rewind button but a different type of phenomenon, which will also be revealed later on.

I took it more like a time loop and a paradox type shift.. loop time before the decision that was made caused the event to make a completely different event. Not that they could actually cause him to change what he said but go to a slightly different time line where something else was said instead in effect changing what happened.

The time line theory where in one time line something else was done and since there is an infinite amount of choices there is an infinite amount of time lines they can shift to.

Never played the game because I don't care for fight games it it was a tradition JRPG game I would be playing it now story looks interesting as I have no clue what is going on with the story yet. Can't really call it a spoiler either as it's speculation as I have no clue or idea what is going on myself.

[Dextro]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

What is this Council of Three Chairs thinking? I thought they wanted Hazama to eliminate some problems for them? If they don't want Jin to get killed, then why are they letting Hazama have an order put out for him to be killed?

It has something to do with not wanting to loose order just quite yet (like they mentioned when they triggered that rewind). I'm pretty sure that this should be explained eventually in the anime but if it isn't I'm sure someone will drop by to explain it better than I could (I haven't finished the second game yet myself. )

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Dawnstorm

Let me just say: my take is pretty different from shmaster's, though that might be me having incomplete information and/or faulty memory. I do understand your confusion. It's going to get better, then worse in waves. Either get used to it, or quit.

Don't worry, it's not a deal-breaker for me. Actually, the (seemingly) nonsensical plot is sometimes part of this show's charm, I fine.

If I ask plot questions sometimes, it really is to get answers from source material viewers. With that in mind, my thinks to you, Dextro, and shmaster.

[Dawnstorm]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Don't worry, it's not a deal-breaker for me. Actually, the (seemingly) nonsensical plot is sometimes part of this show's charm, I fine.

Makes sense.

If I ask plot questions sometimes, it really is to get answers from source material viewers. With that in mind, my thinks to you, Dextro, and shmaster.

Answering those sorts of questions is difficult, though, because of this site's spoiler policy. Even if I don't reveal what happens, I might inadvertantly make things more obvious than they're supposed to be right now. And confusion is essential to the effect of the plot.

Molitar's interpretation makes sense, especially in light of Rachel saying that a world where you pick only what's convenient isn't romantic at all.

[Preciize]

What exactly is the goal of the Council of the Three Chairs? I'm a bit confused as to what 'order' really means and who they are exactly, as well as Rachel.

Honestly should've played the games first :S

[Xero8420]

Originally Posted by Preciize

What exactly is the goal of the Council of the Three Chairs? I'm a bit confused as to what 'order' really means and who they are exactly, as well as Rachel.

Honestly should've played the games first :S

Something relates to The Power of Order. Well, I got no idea what it is. I'll just follow up and see what happen next.