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Vladrave · 2014-03-01, 21:11

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Originally Posted by felix

That thing was (a) never confirmed (b) comes from a random

It was already confirmed by Vadejuegos a spanish video game site. They clarified some aspect.

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28/02/ UPDATE - Spanish website "Vadejuegos" confirmed with their own sources if the info posted here was true. Their results next:

- Vadejuegos is in position of confirming the story and clarifying some aspects of it.
- Development of Casltevania was very problematic due to leadership and communication problems.
- "Development problems are basically what was posted online".
- "In the end, the lead end up being the person who has been here for the most time or laughs the most at Alvarez' jokes"
- "Being creative there is complicated. People's ideas don't get anywhere. Rafael Jimenez, art director got tired of that and ended up in Tequila. They had him hand tied. He said "Well, here you remain with your brilliant ideas"".
- "Jimenez did the first game's art which was awesome, and (thanks to his departure) this second one is a Frankenstein. There is a power struggle. Some parts are pretty, some aren't".
- "This Castlevania ended up being a little weird due to that. Each department goes with itself and there is no internal communication".
- "They mistreat their people. They.. distrust themselves. It's a very weird ambient, very little creative"
- Relating the stealth sections: "Some of us said, "But what is this? Are we really doing this? Why rats? Really?". Those things were bad and talked between us. This has been like this for 2 years, not before.
- "There weren't any meetings. We found out things llots of times by the press".
- Regarding the first post veracity: "It's not true (that I know of) that Konami is displeased with the game. That can't be known yet".
- "The delay didn't involve out pocket's money (that we know of) it was the normal thing caused by a production of this size.
- Alvarez has been contacted.

http://www.vadejuegos.com/noticias/d...-20140228.html

felix · 2014-03-02, 08:16

If they found most things though the press then how come all these wonderful details about the drama are so crystal clear. Also, the attitude especially in the first email is very self-defeating.

I have to wonder if this isn't just 70% drama 30% truth.

Kyral · 2014-03-03, 10:59

Okay I finished it.
After all the post reviews anti-hype I was surprised to play a very good game. Not a masterpiece sure, but better then expected.

Some random stuff I liked and disliked:

Spoiler for Stuff and some story spoiler:

Mad Pierrot · 2014-03-03, 11:12

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Originally Posted by Vladrave

Ignoring this whole Satan vs Dracula stuff, we already know who is the winner and Satan got his ass kicked. Period.

I got something more interesting to share. Someone in GAF translated a mercury steam employee post:

I read the original Spanish interview and it's amazing how a staff member directly called the game "Mierda" (shit). It really looks like there were no good relationships between staff members.

felix · 2014-03-03, 13:05

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Originally Posted by Kyral

After all the post reviews anti-hype I was surprised to play a very good game. Not a masterpiece sure, but better then expected.

Ya but this is nothing new. Bad staff relations (japanese studios) or bad manners (lol fez dev) and/or bad management (too many studios to even count) don't really translate into "bad game" as some journalists would spin it as.

Sadly the opposite is true as well, really "creative" and "friendly" studios with "lots of good ideas" can just fail to deliver a product to market.

It's the same with say community involvement, you can have really deep community involvement and end up with a "mediocre" game or you can have nonexistent community involvement and end up with a masterpiece.

ZGoten · 2014-03-05, 12:48

Five hours into the game and I'm still enjoying it a lot. I just finished the train section, which was very well done. If the game doesn't drop dramatically in quality soon, I'm going to have to do a little rant video, because there's no way in hell this game is a 60. I mean, numbers aren't everything, and I couldn't care less if a magazine rates a game ten per cent short of what it's deserved in my opinion. I'm not that type of person. But we are talking at least 20 to 25 per cent short here and far from only one magazine. This might be worse than the underappreciation of NIER. Oh well, not passing judgement just yet, I still got 10 or so more hours ahead of me.

felix · 2014-03-05, 15:34

The numbers game journalists are really wierd. I mean I heard only praise and hype for the south park game before and after it's launch from journalists that got hands on and tested post release.... 6/10 LOL

ZGoten · 2014-03-05, 15:56

Well, the average for South Park so far is about 8/10. Haven't played the game yet, though, so I can't judge it.
The PS3 version of LOS2 however is sitting at 61.89/100.00 across 27 reviews, which is just really unfair.

Chaos2Frozen · 2014-03-07, 10:50

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 ‘Revelations’ DLC announced

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Due out on PlayStation Network and Xbox LIVE on March 25, the ‘Revelations’ add-on puts players in the role of Alucard. As the turned son of Gabriel, Alucard has shunned human life for years, hunting only creatures the night. The add-on is set just before the events of Lords of Shadow 2, where Alucard readies for his father’s return and the forthcoming battle against Satan. The plot will reveal “how the lone vampire is inextricably linked to his father’s fate.”

Alucard is equipped with his own unique abilities, including use of the Glaciem and Igneas powers, as well as the ability to transform into a wolf, swarm of bats, and even turn back time.

Mad Pierrot · 2014-03-07, 14:44

Enric Álvarez, the game's director complained that the ''Edge'' review was "terribly unfair", and that "one must be blind or stupid to give a 4/10 mark to a game with this quality". Álvarez believed that the game's poorer critical response compared to the original ''Lords of Shadow'' was due to the heightened expectations of a sequel. Still, on the whole, Álvarez said of the reception, "I tend to think positive after reading some things. I’m glad that some people are writing about games instead of making them."

http://www.eurogamer.es/articles/ent...lmente-injusto

ZGoten · 2014-03-07, 17:17

Well, I agree with the guy.

Yorae_paladin1 · 2014-03-07, 21:10

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Originally Posted by ZGoten

Five hours into the game and I'm still enjoying it a lot. I just finished the train section, which was very well done. If the game doesn't drop dramatically in quality soon, I'm going to have to do a little rant video, because there's no way in hell this game is a 60. I mean, numbers aren't everything, and I couldn't care less if a magazine rates a game ten per cent short of what it's deserved in my opinion. I'm not that type of person. But we are talking at least 20 to 25 per cent short here and far from only one magazine. This might be worse than the underappreciation of NIER. Oh well, not passing judgement just yet, I still got 10 or so more hours ahead of me.

agreed the reviewers seem to have over bloated expectations me i got what i paid which is good enjoyable game and dracula playable and now alucard as well with the turn back time ability guess al finally master the time tool he got in mirror of fate

2014-03-02, 08:16	Link #142
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	If they found most things though the press then how come all these wonderful details about the drama are so crystal clear. Also, the attitude especially in the first email is very self-defeating. I have to wonder if this isn't just 70% drama 30% truth. __________________

2014-03-03, 10:59	Link #143
Kyral OC Belka Scriptor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 40	Okay I finished it. After all the post reviews anti-hype I was surprised to play a very good game. Not a masterpiece sure, but better then expected. Some random stuff I liked and disliked: Spoiler for Stuff and some story spoiler: + Playing Dracula was fun. + Voice acting was again very, very good. + Some parts of the game (mostly in the castle, but there are a few in the city) are breathtakingly beautiful. + Nice finishers (- which get repetitive after a while....) + Not an open world, but I liked the 3d-metroidvania feel it has. + I liked how they managed to keep Alucard's intensions hidden. I knew he was Zobek's lieutenant, but I had absolute no idea what he was up to. I thought halfway he was simple brainwashed by Zobek. So when I found out, I was quite pleased. Having Alucard not only as an ally of Dracula who came to the castle not to fight him, but to make peace with him AND he more or less was the mastermind behind the plan of driving out Satan? Well done! + A battle against Death! Finally! Where have you been the last two games? + The endfight was not another "you have to use power 1 or power 2 to counter endboss power 1 or power 2"... i was pretty worried they would pull that one again. - As I stated above... Lieutenant was too obvious! A athletic guy in a black armor, having a much younger voice than I had expected and wielding a curved sword? puh-leez... - The city never really felt like a city... the only place that did was the part in front of the cathedral. - Victor Belmont... we hardley knew you... At least you finally had a part to play. - We never found out what happened to the evil blood power in the castle. - Beefy Satan. I liked his first game design a lot more. - Thanks to the camera, fighting in a corner or a small corridor against a lot of enemies becomes confusing very fast. Making me sometimes a simple ragdoll until i was able to finally stop being thrown around and mist into a more open space. - I never had a cape an I never was able to shoot fireballs from under it! (Well, at least I was able to any shoot fireballs...) __________________

2014-03-05, 12:48	Link #146
ZGoten Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Age: 34	Five hours into the game and I'm still enjoying it a lot. I just finished the train section, which was very well done. If the game doesn't drop dramatically in quality soon, I'm going to have to do a little rant video, because there's no way in hell this game is a 60. I mean, numbers aren't everything, and I couldn't care less if a magazine rates a game ten per cent short of what it's deserved in my opinion. I'm not that type of person. But we are talking at least 20 to 25 per cent short here and far from only one magazine. This might be worse than the underappreciation of NIER. Oh well, not passing judgement just yet, I still got 10 or so more hours ahead of me. __________________ Truth is elusive to those who refuse to see with both eyes.

2014-03-05, 15:34	Link #147
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	The numbers game journalists are really wierd. I mean I heard only praise and hype for the south park game before and after it's launch from journalists that got hands on and tested post release.... 6/10 LOL __________________

2014-03-05, 15:56	Link #148
ZGoten Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Age: 34	Well, the average for South Park so far is about 8/10. Haven't played the game yet, though, so I can't judge it. The PS3 version of LOS2 however is sitting at 61.89/100.00 across 27 reviews, which is just really unfair. __________________ Truth is elusive to those who refuse to see with both eyes.

2014-03-07, 14:44	Link #150
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	Enric Álvarez, the game's director complained that the ''Edge'' review was "terribly unfair", and that "one must be blind or stupid to give a 4/10 mark to a game with this quality". Álvarez believed that the game's poorer critical response compared to the original ''Lords of Shadow'' was due to the heightened expectations of a sequel. Still, on the whole, Álvarez said of the reception, "I tend to think positive after reading some things. I’m glad that some people are writing about games instead of making them." http://www.eurogamer.es/articles/ent...lmente-injusto __________________

2014-03-07, 17:17	Link #151
ZGoten Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Age: 34	Well, I agree with the guy. __________________ Truth is elusive to those who refuse to see with both eyes.